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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 30, 2018 12:45:12 GMT -5
Well looks like our fans and Blue and Gold Marching Machine will have to tighten up to fit in the stands! With our fans and all the SC State fans that will show up, we'll take over that little stadium. Lol You know good and well Dr. Ruff aint bringing the Machine to that game. If there aint no 5th quarter involved, the Machine wont travel. I'm betting that this will be on the BGMM schedule...much like Gardner-Webb two years ago. Hell, Gardner Webb didn't have a band either...well they had some students holding instruments but they didn't count. It's a short bus ride, it's in SC State's backyard and we recruit heavily for band, academic and athletic students in this market. This will be a "tune up" game for the BGMM! |
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Post by Maxell on Nov 30, 2018 13:55:12 GMT -5
If we do this and get rid of the game zone we can see the sellout that someone mentioned in 1999 for the title against FAMU. (We would not have sold out last year if it was not NCCU)... facts We were on a trajectory for a fan base a solid one then the elite Aggies said bump that we don't want people using our port o potties for free. That emptied the stadium and any hopes for a community fan base. Now we exploit our students for revenue. Does not matter the opponent d1 or d2 people come to see the Aggies play. If we play a D2 opponent should be an hbcu give them the cash... Food for thought... In 2017-18, A&T generated $1.3 million in gate revenue for football and basketball, which is an all-time record. That also doesn't include the Beer Garden, which will be on the 2018-19 numbers once they're done. The Game Zone is a big part of the gate revenue. Between that and the security buffer it provides, it's definitely not going anywhere. What may be up for debate is the reduction of the GA adult ticket pricing from its current $27 price point. In talking with Campus Enterprises, they're looking at the risk/reward for reducing the price vs. getting enough average attendance to increase the revenue. And it's not as simple as marketing blasts. They'll need to get some real community feedback before they make that type of change. So there is some potential progress on the table. I do like the fact that there is movement. Again, I'm not advocating a reduction of the GA price point necessarily but that could help. What I am advocating a third price point with a limited number of tickets available to community groups that have an interest in coming to games. Hell, I would even make a deal with other Greensboro colleges that don't offer football or are playing at the D-III level in order to expand our fan base. The objective would be target groups that aren't currently attending games. The other thing is to have a stronger marketing campaign for season tickets particularly to small businesses and starting much earlier in the year. Businesses such as local radio stations, barber shops, retail stores can use the tickets as perks or rewards to employees or incentives for customers. And they can do that without becoming sponsors of any kind. I'm not sure how much of that we do now but all of those things are opportunities to sell tickets. Leverage the community service projects that team members do to continue to create community presence. You can actually start with all of the groups that march in the Homecoming parade every year and expand from there. I know we have Community Day but this would be a year round effort to engage the community with affordable options. Lastly, why don't we just give away 200 tickets EVERY game, period. Come up with criteria on who can apply, and just give them away in groups of 10 or 20 no strings attached. It fosters some good will and could build a broader fan base for what is now a winning program. |
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Post by The Professor on Nov 30, 2018 17:19:21 GMT -5
Selling out the stadium for one single game is overrated. I would rather create a block of up to 5,000 $15 tickets for every game that could be purchased in advance similar to what we did with the ECU game with a cutoff date of one week before the game. Promote the $15 ticket to community groups for every home game except Homecoming and NCCU. We have to engage the community to create an ongoing local fan. Having an affordable ticket available does that. If we do this and get rid of the game zone we can see the sellout that someone mentioned in 1999 for the title against FAMU. (We would not have sold out last year if it was not NCCU)... facts We were on a trajectory for a fan base a solid one then the elite Aggies said bump that we don't want people using our port o potties for free. That emptied the stadium and any hopes for a community fan base. Now we exploit our students for revenue. Does not matter the opponent d1 or d2 people come to see the Aggies play. If we play a D2 opponent should be an hbcu give them the cash... Game zone is best thing to ever happen to A&T and I was against it. But the increased revenue is undeniable |
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Post by aggieswag on Nov 30, 2018 17:46:01 GMT -5
If we do this and get rid of the game zone we can see the sellout that someone mentioned in 1999 for the title against FAMU. (We would not have sold out last year if it was not NCCU)... facts We were on a trajectory for a fan base a solid one then the elite Aggies said bump that we don't want people using our port o potties for free. That emptied the stadium and any hopes for a community fan base. Now we exploit our students for revenue. Does not matter the opponent d1 or d2 people come to see the Aggies play. If we play a D2 opponent should be an hbcu give them the cash... Game zone is best thing to ever happen to A&T and I was against it. But the increased revenue is undeniable Increased revenue should not be the mark. Maximun revenue should be the mark. And there is no way the largest HBCU in the world should be 8th in revenue among HBCUs. You see a whole empty Stadium sitting across from you every single game, and somehow we believe that's the best. Because we spent a lot of time marketing to students is the only reason we are not at 6-7k a game..facts.. It's not the best and it's not even close. You build fan bases.. football is about culture.. it's a long term thing. Tailgating is a part of the culture. The SWAC understands this way better than the MEAC which is why they generate more revenue. And only two teams in their conference even matter. I remember Aggie Stadium b4 the game zone and I see it now. I can attest there has not been any increase in anything. Rev went up because prices went up and we do a good job getting students out. Has zero to do with the game zone. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 18:06:07 GMT -5
Food for thought... In 2017-18, A&T generated $1.3 million in gate revenue for football and basketball, which is an all-time record. That also doesn't include the Beer Garden, which will be on the 2018-19 numbers once they're done. The Game Zone is a big part of the gate revenue. Between that and the security buffer it provides, it's definitely not going anywhere. What may be up for debate is the reduction of the GA adult ticket pricing from its current $27 price point. In talking with Campus Enterprises, they're looking at the risk/reward for reducing the price vs. getting enough average attendance to increase the revenue. And it's not as simple as marketing blasts. They'll need to get some real community feedback before they make that type of change. So there is some potential progress on the table. I do like the fact that there is movement. Again, I'm not advocating a reduction of the GA price point necessarily but that could help. What I am advocating a third price point with a limited number of tickets available to community groups that have an interest in coming to games. Hell, I would even make a deal with other Greensboro colleges that don't offer football or are playing at the D-III level in order to expand our fan base. The objective would be target groups that aren't currently attending games. The other thing is to have a stronger marketing campaign for season tickets particularly to small businesses and starting much earlier in the year. Businesses such as local radio stations, barber shops, retail stores can use the tickets as perks or rewards to employees or incentives for customers. And they can do that without becoming sponsors of any kind. I'm not sure how much of that we do now but all of those things are opportunities to sell tickets. Leverage the community service projects that team members do to continue to create community presence. You can actually start with all of the groups that march in the Homecoming parade every year and expand from there. I know we have Community Day but this would be a year round effort to engage the community with affordable options. Lastly, why don't we just give away 200 tickets EVERY game, period. Come up with criteria on who can apply, and just give them away in groups of 10 or 20 no strings attached. It fosters some good will and could build a broader fan base for what is now a winning program. UNC students should get already get discounts for ticket, as I haven't heard of this going away at all. |
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Post by The Professor on Dec 3, 2018 2:35:45 GMT -5
Game zone is best thing to ever happen to A&T and I was against it. But the increased revenue is undeniable Increased revenue should not be the mark. Maximun revenue should be the mark. And there is no way the largest HBCU in the world should be 8th in revenue among HBCUs. You see a whole empty Stadium sitting across from you every single game, and somehow we believe that's the best. Because we spent a lot of time marketing to students is the only reason we are not at 6-7k a game..facts.. It's not the best and it's not even close. You build fan bases.. football is about culture.. it's a long term thing. Tailgating is a part of the culture. The SWAC understands this way better than the MEAC which is why they generate more revenue. And only two teams in their conference even matter. I remember Aggie Stadium b4 the game zone and I see it now. I can attest there has not been any increase in anything. Rev went up because prices went up and we do a good job getting students out. Has zero to do with the game zone. There is nothing wrong with 8th. As far as the Gamezone, I know 10 people who never bought tixs until the game zone came and now they have too. Thats also some of the extra revenue that's coming in |
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Post by aggieswag on Dec 3, 2018 12:16:48 GMT -5
Increased revenue should not be the mark. Maximun revenue should be the mark. And there is no way the largest HBCU in the world should be 8th in revenue among HBCUs. You see a whole empty Stadium sitting across from you every single game, and somehow we believe that's the best. Because we spent a lot of time marketing to students is the only reason we are not at 6-7k a game..facts.. It's not the best and it's not even close. You build fan bases.. football is about culture.. it's a long term thing. Tailgating is a part of the culture. The SWAC understands this way better than the MEAC which is why they generate more revenue. And only two teams in their conference even matter. I remember Aggie Stadium b4 the game zone and I see it now. I can attest there has not been any increase in anything. Rev went up because prices went up and we do a good job getting students out. Has zero to do with the game zone. There is nothing wrong with 8th. As far as the Gamezone, I know 10 people who never bought tixs until the game zone came and now they have too. Thats also some of the extra revenue that's coming in "There is nothing wrong with 8th" thats an incredible statement. Mediocrity is why black people fail to move. We are talking 8th amongst HBCUs it's way worse among overall FCS programs.. This is simple basic math and economics. Quality vs quantity economic models.. it's mind boggling to me that this is not understood. It really really is. if you had a stadium that was full and it totally makes sense to go on the quality route which is what we are on now.. we bet that we can exploit enough students and have enough fan base that's going to pay 35 and $50 for our revenue. but when you have an empty Stadium and only 5-6k outside of students purchasing tickets for a 21,000 seat Stadium it is ludicrous not to go on the quantity marketing strategy. It defies common sense. The game zone only purpose is for the elite to have something they can say they can do and others cant. It fills the need to be superior. "We got ours let's put a fence around it and keep everyone else out".. Another life long problem of Black folks.. |
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Post by aggierattler on Dec 3, 2018 12:25:56 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with 8th. As far as the Gamezone, I know 10 people who never bought tixs until the game zone came and now they have too. Thats also some of the extra revenue that's coming in "There is nothing wrong with 8th" thats an incredible statement. Mediocrity is why black people fail to move. We are talking 8th amongst HBCUs it's way worse among overall FCS programs.. This is simple basic math and economics. Quality vs quantity economic models.. it's mind boggling to me that this is not understood. It really really is. if you had a stadium that was full and it totally makes sense to go on the quality route which is what we are on now.. we bet that we can exploit enough students and have enough fan base that's going to pay 35 and $50 for our revenue. but when you have an empty Stadium and only 5-6k outside of students purchasing tickets for a 21,000 seat Stadium it is ludicrous not to go on the quantity marketing strategy. It defies common sense. The game zone only purpose is for the elite to have something they can say they can do and others cant. It fills the need to be superior. "We got ours let's put a fence around it and keep everyone else out".. Another life long problem of Black folks..
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Post by DOOMS on Dec 3, 2018 12:35:19 GMT -5
I sit on both sides of this argument. I feel like our ticket prices have been too high for eons. I also feel like we should have higher attendance and the ticket price obviously is a large reason we don't. There are certain college towns you visit where the whole town seems to be a part of the team's fanbase (Urngeburg comes to mind, but I don't know how they're doing since they implemented their gamezone) and others where the team and town seem to be separate entities altogether (Hampton, I'm talking to you). It'd be nice to be an integral part of Greensboro but if Greensboro at large can't afford it...
On the other hand, who can argue with an increase in revenue?
I can only assume that studies have been performed and that is how we came up with our current price point. I would love to see a stadium 3/4 full with $10 ticket holders, but if that loses us a great deal of money over the course of a season that's being penny-wise and pound-foolish.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 3, 2018 14:22:12 GMT -5
Food for thought... In 2017-18, A&T generated $1.3 million in gate revenue for football and basketball, which is an all-time record. That also doesn't include the Beer Garden, which will be on the 2018-19 numbers once they're done. The Game Zone is a big part of the gate revenue. Between that and the security buffer it provides, it's definitely not going anywhere. What may be up for debate is the reduction of the GA adult ticket pricing from its current $27 price point. In talking with Campus Enterprises, they're looking at the risk/reward for reducing the price vs. getting enough average attendance to increase the revenue. And it's not as simple as marketing blasts. They'll need to get some real community feedback before they make that type of change. So there is some potential progress on the table. I do like the fact that there is movement. Again, I'm not advocating a reduction of the GA price point necessarily but that could help. What I am advocating a third price point with a limited number of tickets available to community groups that have an interest in coming to games. Hell, I would even make a deal with other Greensboro colleges that don't offer football or are playing at the D-III level in order to expand our fan base. The objective would be target groups that aren't currently attending games. The other thing is to have a stronger marketing campaign for season tickets particularly to small businesses and starting much earlier in the year. Businesses such as local radio stations, barber shops, retail stores can use the tickets as perks or rewards to employees or incentives for customers. And they can do that without becoming sponsors of any kind. I'm not sure how much of that we do now but all of those things are opportunities to sell tickets. Leverage the community service projects that team members do to continue to create community presence. You can actually start with all of the groups that march in the Homecoming parade every year and expand from there. I know we have Community Day but this would be a year round effort to engage the community with affordable options. Lastly, why don't we just give away 200 tickets EVERY game, period. Come up with criteria on who can apply, and just give them away in groups of 10 or 20 no strings attached. It fosters some good will and could build a broader fan base for what is now a winning program. Brilliant ideas all throughout this post. |
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Post by aggieswag on Dec 3, 2018 16:37:51 GMT -5
Last post and I'm going to leave y'all alone..😂 increased revenue does not necesaarily mean success.
Lets say hypothetical..If in 2008 you had a 25% increase and in 2012 had a 30% increase and in 2018 you had a 4% increase...4% is an increase but it's not the increase we will need to sustain. Ask SC State.
By doing nothing you can have an increase. ESPN3, ESPN Thursday night, Celebration Bowl, money games, and a higher ticket price are legitimate reasons for increased revenue.I woulduld argue we have an increase despite the game zone.because we all have eyes and we all see an empty Stadium sitting in front of us so we know it's not increased bodies that has increased the revenue.
We need to think about this in a sustainable way. We need to get the community involved like before when we could sell out a championship game (FAMU).. We need a price point. An empty Stadium for a championship team where everyone in the city says Aggie Pride and everyone loves our band, means you are missing the price point.
I love the idea of cheaper block tickets. I also think we can sell block tickets higher at homecoming and NCCU for better seats.
We can do a lot of things which can fix the price point but if you don't fix the amount of people who want to come to the game it's a mute point. we have to open the gate, we have to let the community in so they can understand what Aggie Pride is and become a part of it and purchase tickets- its long-term sustainable strategy.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 3, 2018 18:18:16 GMT -5
We did not sell out the 1999 game against FAMU. I was there.
We had about 18,000 people and 1/4 of the crowd was FAMU fans, but it was not a sell out.
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Post by AggieGroove on Dec 3, 2018 18:34:45 GMT -5
One point missing is the effect of espn broadcasting mosto if not all of our games now....bad weather and ppl will just watch online. Hell, u don’t even need bad weather, most ppl will just watch online anyway! The internet age has made less stressful to catch a game in person...
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Post by marchingband1969 on Dec 3, 2018 19:48:07 GMT -5
One point missing is the effect of espn broadcasting mosto if not all of our games now....bad weather and ppl will just watch online. Hell, u don’t even need bad weather, most ppl will just watch online anyway! The internet age has made less stressful to catch a game in person... True football fans are okay watching the game on their laptop but we need to target the non football fans. These are local people that are looking for some different entertainment experiences. We have got to hire professionals that know how to promote our games to this audience. That's not going to be easy but we don't have a choice. |
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Post by aggie2039 on Dec 3, 2018 19:53:01 GMT -5
I think our game atmosphere is boring 🤷🏾♂️. We really don’t cheer, just sit there. We need to learn from Alcorn and our SWAC family, I’m not going to pay $30 for a dry atmosphere.
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