neal
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Post by neal on Aug 1, 2018 15:32:31 GMT -5
This is ECU home game; not A&T. You all are overthinking situations just to please a marching band. It is actually normal procedures to have band day during a home game. It has been done by several MEAC and PWC schools during the the beginning of the season when it is warm. Band day is about recruitment for the home team band. It has nothing to do with not wanting T to perform. Home teams do not please away bands. Trust the black kids at ECU will not leave their white school just because a HBCU band performed for 7 minutes.
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 1, 2018 15:58:25 GMT -5
I tend to agree the band needs to support the team. I understand the apprehension of not performing but, it's bigger than the band. The whole university is on display, not just the band. The band IS a part in the whole, though. I know I would roll up in there and take Greenville by storm just as we did Gardner Webb and Charlotte. They didn't know what hit them.
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Post by ibleedblue on Aug 1, 2018 16:33:11 GMT -5
Seems like I'm one of the few that support Dr. Ruff and his decision. The BGMM works extremely hard to produce some of the most innovative,and captivating halftime shows the collegiate band world have seen in awhile. I dont think it's fair to our students to have them parade into the stands, play one or two times a quarter, then possibly performer a show that took days to learn, send money out of a limted band budget,just to say we were there. At this point A&T has nothing to prove to any PWI. Its not a privilege to go and just sit in the stands, the Aggie brand is bigger than that.. Dr. Ruff has drawn a line in the sand as he should...all we can do is support the decision, or petition ECU to change their mind about halftime. Our fans will support our team regardless if the band is there or not. If ECU gave us, after the game, time to perform, would you be okay with that? “The Aggie Brand is bigger than that”.....if you look at my last few posts, everything I talk about is about promoting the Aggie brand. Quality team + Supportive fans + Quality band = The best of the Aggie brand. The last time I remember A&T remotely going this Far East in State was during the Billy Hayes years when we went to Fayetteville State. Greenville is even further east than Fayetteville, with ECU being the center of academics and athletics in that part of the state. I just don’t think we can’t afford to bring every aspect of Aggie Nation to Greenville. This game is a big deal, on and off the field. This is a part of the state where we’ve never ventured....pull out all the stops and leave as powerful an Aggie impression you can. What if NCCU or Hampton or SCSU said that the band couldn't perform at halftime but they would give our students time to perform after the game, we would see that as a smack in the face... The BGMM is a brand all to themselves (believe it or not) they have worked really hard get to where they are and, they bring value to the gameday experience...,We know that and so does any other school we play. So, if our students are going to send time preparing for the game, if the band program has to take funds from a limited travel budget to get to the game, and if the band is a big draw for attendants and the gameday atmosphere, then give them 6mins at half time, or have the traval budget come from somewhere else... Aggie National will be there to support the team regardless..
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Post by Gator on Aug 1, 2018 16:42:25 GMT -5
I have a feeling that ECU fans want the band there, but the athletic department is not having it. They don't want to give any edge to the defending national champs. :-D
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Post by Gator on Aug 1, 2018 16:46:06 GMT -5
This is ECU home game; not A&T. You all are overthinking situations just to please a marching band. It is actually normal procedures to have band day during a home game. It has been done by several MEAC and PWC schools during the the beginning of the season when it is warm. Band day is about recruitment for the home team band. It has nothing to do with not wanting T to perform. Home teams do not please away bands. Trust the black kids at ECU will not leave their white school just because a HBCU band performed for 7 minutes. This is the problem, you see us only as an "away band." Dammit man...WE ARE A&T! :-D
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Aug 1, 2018 17:03:30 GMT -5
Neal, I used a word before, which needs to be reiterated.... H-I-J-A-C-K.
Outside of a hypothetical bowl or classic game (which will likely never happen), name me a time when A&T will ever be the home team at Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium in Greenville?
Hey man, I know what Band Day is supposed to be about at a respective school. I know home teams are not supposed to appease away teams. You ain't sayin nothing we don't already know.
H-I-J-A-C-K
TAKE all of Aggie Nation down there........TAKE the victory ON and OFF the gridiron......TAKE their purple and gold 6-figure check back to Greensboro.....TAKE as much shine from this game a possible........
As you can see, TAKE is the key word I'm highlighting, and when you TAKE something by your own might that wasn't meant for you, it's called a
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Aug 1, 2018 17:10:41 GMT -5
I have a feeling that ECU fans want the band there, but the athletic department is not having it. They don't want to give any edge to the defending national champs. :-D That and they may be in their feelings with this. ftw.usatoday.com/2016/10/east-carolina-national-anthem-protest-marchning-band-booedThey (ECU admin) really want no parts of us from an entertainment perspective... and maybe a football perspective based on the way that they're acting.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 1, 2018 17:16:23 GMT -5
wow! we're in the middle of preseason football camp but yet there's more conversation going on about the bgmm than football. we all luv the bgmm, but i never thought there'd be so much interest in whether the bgmm will perform at ecu or not...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Aug 1, 2018 17:40:42 GMT -5
OSA, Count me as one who never thought I would post so much about the BGMM.
But after seeing how Aggie Nation (including the football team, fans, and band) took over Boone (App St), Boiling Springs (Gardner Webb), and Charlotte (49ers).....there's simply no way the band ain't going to Greenville. I was at all 3 games. These were recruiting trips. These were trips that led to LASTING POSITIVE IMPRESSIONS.
Hey man, like I said before, ain't no way I'd take our band down there to shuck and jive if I knew our football team was 3rd-rate quality.
What A&T has done these past few years has been groundbreaking. HBCUs just ain't been doing what we've been doing. This is an intrastate game against one of the flagship schools of the state.
We gotta promote our brand..... HIJACK Dowdy-Ficklen..... I just don't think ECU has any idea of what they're about to see from us.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Aug 1, 2018 18:30:43 GMT -5
Seems like I'm one of the few that support Dr. Ruff and his decision. The BGMM works extremely hard to produce some of the most innovative,and captivating halftime shows the collegiate band world have seen in awhile. I dont think it's fair to our students to have them parade into the stands, play one or two times a quarter, then possibly performer a show that took days to learn, send money out of a limted band budget,just to say we were there. At this point A&T has nothing to prove to any PWI. Its not a privilege to go and just sit in the stands, the Aggie brand is bigger than that.. Dr. Ruff has drawn a line in the sand as he should...all we can do is support the decision, or petition ECU to change their mind about halftime. Our fans will support our team regardless if the band is there or not. You're not alone... I support Dr. Ruff's decision 100%. First, I respect what he's accomplished during his career as head band director. Second, I'm an old fart that grew up in the south in the 1950s and I'm always watching how "they" treat us.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Aug 1, 2018 19:18:54 GMT -5
For the record, what we’re talking about is not a referendum on Dr Ruff.....I’m just looking at this thing from a bigger perspective because, frankly, I think it is.
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Post by aggie75 on Aug 1, 2018 19:36:37 GMT -5
Why does everyone assume that Dr Ruff didn't speak to Martin before a decision was made. If this is what they decided, then I'm fine with that.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Aug 1, 2018 19:41:06 GMT -5
Am I upset with this decision, if it is final- no? Disappointed - yes. I still find it peculiar how the band is going down to a lame duck MEAC member school in Savannah State instead of taking all of our talents to Greenville. From a recruiting, exposure, and financial standpoint........Greenville, NC >>> Savannah, Georgia
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Aug 1, 2018 19:46:49 GMT -5
I wouldn’t even take our tambourine and harmonica players down to Savannah 😁
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Post by tony on Aug 1, 2018 21:52:25 GMT -5
What if NCCU or Hampton or SCSU said that the band couldn't perform at halftime but they would give our students time to perform after the game, we would see that as a smack in the face... The BGMM is a brand all to themselves (believe it or not) they have worked really hard get to where they are and, they bring value to the gameday experience...,We know that and so does any other school we play. So, if our students are going to send time preparing for the game, if the band program has to take funds from a limited travel budget to get to the game, and if the band is a big draw for attendants and the gameday atmosphere, then give them 6mins at half time, or have the traval budget come from somewhere else... Aggie National will be there to support the team regardless.. Not accurate. FAMU did that to us - nobody was offended. We shrugged, unleashed on them as soon as they hit the sidelines when their show was over, and did our thing post game. There are a couple of clips of our band on their track playing - that's because we came off the field after our post game show, lined up right in front of them, and kept at it. And then had a good time with them that night after the game. I support Dr. Ruff's decision - it's his call. But anybody really getting offended over this is missing the point - going there would provide us a ton of great exposure, regardless of how a few people in administration may or may not feel about us.
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