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Post by aggielaw on Apr 4, 2018 7:02:19 GMT -5
I understand the need for a great looking field. However, Martin has done a great job with the total upkeep and enhancement of our campus. I'm sure the new track surface and student center will keep people focused on A&T in a positive light. Do you guys remember how the field and track looked in the 90's? It looked like Hooker and Manor were playing in a corn field.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 4, 2018 11:59:24 GMT -5
I understand the need for a great looking field. However, Martin has done a great job with the total upkeep and enhancement of our campus. I'm sure the new track surface and student center will keep people focused on A&T in a positive light. Do you guys remember how the field and track looked in the 90's? It looked like Hooker and Manor were playing in a corn field. that's all true, but when the game field grass is dead/brown, it just brings everything near and around it "down"... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 4, 2018 12:14:51 GMT -5
It's called the broken window theory.
The concept is that if people see that your front window is broken they will assume that everything on the inside of your house is in shambles also. In major cities, a broken window in a downtown building invites vandalism and crime.
In our case, our beat-up football field does not give off the impression that we are defending, undefeated HBCU champs. It makes our entire program look lackluster. Especially when 20 minutes down the road, Elon has a field that is kelly green.
It's the same as having a vastly improved baseball program, but when people come by War Memorial and we dont even have a functioning scoreboard, they are going have the impression that we are still struggling.
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 4, 2018 12:35:49 GMT -5
Since we're completely all in on the field topic now, I said this a couple years ago and I say it again: When I thought about us being an agricultural and engineering school, it seemed to me a no-brainer that we could and SHOULD be the school that develops the future of natural turf. Just because this synthetic turf is the in thing today doesn't mean it will always be that way. Think of Gatorade. That mess started as some stuff some cats from the University of Florida mixed together. Now look at it. And now look at the University of Florida. And yes, the University of Florida receives shares of money off Gatorade sales. We can leave it sorry like it is. We can spend some money to get some synthetic turf. Or we can usher in a new natural turf that is more durable, longer lasting, more visually appealing, and easier to maintain. If Ayantee is actually able to create "Aggieturf", the sky is the limit on how much money and positive notoriety the school could gain. Of course, if we don't even try... At this point all we need to do is either invite a few ag majors to see this thread or put a poster up in the ag building with a picture of the turf and ask an enterprising student to research it. I doubt Dr. Uzo'd have an issue with a few of his students attempting to engineer some new turf even if it wasn't successful. |
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Apr 4, 2018 13:13:38 GMT -5
We dont need a special grass. About $500 for winter grass seed. You throw it down in November.... either water it or it rains and it germinates. No need to make it more than it is.....The only real maintenance is you are cutting grass all year as it grows very fast and stays green with temps in the 30's - 70's. When it gets hot 80's it dies an by then your base grass is green.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 4, 2018 13:13:40 GMT -5
Since we're completely all in on the field topic now, I said this a couple years ago and I say it again: When I thought about us being an agricultural and engineering school, it seemed to me a no-brainer that we could and SHOULD be the school that develops the future of natural turf. Just because this synthetic turf is the in thing today doesn't mean it will always be that way. Think of Gatorade. That mess started as some stuff some cats from the University of Florida mixed together. Now look at it. And now look at the University of Florida. And yes, the University of Florida receives shares of money off Gatorade sales. We can leave it sorry like it is. We can spend some money to get some synthetic turf. Or we can usher in a new natural turf that is more durable, longer lasting, more visually appealing, and easier to maintain. If Ayantee is actually able to create "Aggieturf", the sky is the limit on how much money and positive notoriety the school could gain. Of course, if we don't even try... At this point all we need to do is either invite a few ag majors to see this thread or put a poster up in the ag building with a picture of the turf and ask an enterprising student to research it. I doubt Dr. Uzo'd have an issue with a few of his students attempting to engineer some new turf even if it wasn't successful. i was thinking about something like that the other day and a question came to my mind that i don't know the answer to. because such a study may involve "costs/expenses" that's associated with athletics, my question is are there any rules/laws/regulations that prohibit academic studies/programs from performing such tasks as grounds upkeep on a school's football field? not being able to use state funds to build/maintain athletic facilies brought that question to my mind, though that specific stipulation may not apply directly to this idea... |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 4, 2018 13:15:36 GMT -5
I've always thought we should be incorporating our professors and grad students more with our athletic problem solving. They are basically free labor and highly motivated.
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Post by aggie5 on Apr 4, 2018 13:17:13 GMT -5
Its embarrassing and the bad part is that we have seen it even worse in the past. Guys were out there slipping all over the place during pro-day. Those 40 times had to be a little slower on that grass. 40 times are always slower on grass. Why didn't the use the track ? Your're right 40 times are generally slower on grass, but there is a difference between what we ran on compared to what Elon runs on. |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 4, 2018 13:17:29 GMT -5
We dont need a special grass. About $500 for winter grass seed. You throw it down in November.... either water it or it rains and it germinates. No need to make it more than it is.....The only real maintenance is you are cutting grass all year as it grows very fast and stays green with temps in the 30's - 70's. When it gets hot 80's it dies an by then your base grass is green. Dont say this around durhamgsoaggie. He will come up with 20 reasons why this plan is not feasible at this time. |
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 4, 2018 13:22:00 GMT -5
We dont need a special grass. About $500 for winter grass seed. You throw it down in November.... either water it or it rains and it germinates. No need to make it more than it is.....The only real maintenance is you are cutting grass all year as it grows very fast and stays green with temps in the 30's - 70's. When it gets hot 80's it dies an by then your base grass is green. Florida didn't need Gatorade either. Oregon didn't need new running shoes. I'm sure Florida kept drinking water while they developed Gatorade (which continues to make them tons of money) and Oregon still wore shoes while Phil made Nikes (which gets them oodles of cash). We can go grab some seed and still develop something we don't necessarily need. At some point down the line, somebody is going to engineer a new type of grass that stays green for four seasons and can withstand a lot of foot traffic. I'd rather it be us. It's an opportunity that's been sitting there for us for eons. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 14:13:09 GMT -5
We dont need a special grass. About $500 for winter grass seed. You throw it down in November.... either water it or it rains and it germinates. No need to make it more than it is.....The only real maintenance is you are cutting grass all year as it grows very fast and stays green with temps in the 30's - 70's. When it gets hot 80's it dies an by then your base grass is green. Florida didn't need Gatorade either. Oregon didn't need new running shoes. I'm sure Florida kept drinking water while they developed Gatorade (which continues to make them tons of money) and Oregon still wore shoes while Phil made Nikes (which gets them oodles of cash). We can go grab some seed and still develop something we don't necessarily need. At some point down the line, somebody is going to engineer a new type of grass that stays green for four seasons and can withstand a lot of foot traffic. I'd rather it be us. It's an opportunity that's been sitting there for us for eons. We did engineer hypo-allergenic peanuts and food crops resistant to Asian Stink Bugs. Either way, if you all are really concerned about this, you all can talk to the AAF leaders, Earl and the Athletic Foundation to start ear-marking donations for Aggie Stadium grass maintenance. It cost close to $60,000 or more to maintain the field as it currently is. ideally, We as AAF members would have to raise an additional $40,000 or so to properly pay for the grass to be maintained for all sports. If you think it looks bad now, wait until Women's Soccer gets ahold of the field. Soccer will obliterate the entire field, not just between the hashmarks like football. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 4, 2018 15:13:13 GMT -5
If you think it looks bad now, wait until Women's Soccer gets ahold of the field. Soccer will obliterate the entire field, not just between the hashmarks like football. actually, soccer is not that hard on a field except inside the 18 foot box (in front of the goals). but as far as the rest of the field, it does not take much of a beating at all because most soccer formations are "scattered out", not concentrated in one area, not even concentrated in areas where the ball is located. if you look at most rec league soccer fields, the only areas that takes a beating is in front of both goals inside the 18 foot box and that's because when the ball is inside the 18 foot box, almost everybody on the defensive team "collapses" to protect the goal. that's the "only" part of a soccer field where all 22 players might concentrate. otherwise, the players are always "scattered out". i'm a former soccer coach as well as a former soccer referee, i've seen tons of soccer fields and i've never seen an entire soccer field obliterated... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 15:44:56 GMT -5
If you think it looks bad now, wait until Women's Soccer gets ahold of the field. Soccer will obliterate the entire field, not just between the hashmarks like football. actually, soccer is not that hard on a field except inside the 18 foot box (in front of the goals). but as far as the rest of the field, it does not take much of a beating at all because most soccer formations are "scattered out", not concentrated in one area, not even concentrated in areas where the ball is located. if you look at most rec league soccer fields, the only areas that takes a beating is in front of both goals inside the 18 foot box and that's because when the ball is inside the 18 foot box, almost everybody on the defensive team "collapses" to protect the goal. that's the "only" part of a soccer field where all 22 players might concentrate. otherwise, the players are always "scattered out". i'm a former soccer coach as well as a former soccer referee, i've seen tons of soccer fields and i've never seen an entire soccer field obliterated... Shoot. Back at my high school in California, our grass was green until Soccer Practice started. Then it would turn into a dust bowl between the use between the football and soccer teams at the time. Either way, my main point was if you want the field to stay green all year, start ear-marking your AAF donations to go for that maintenance. Then, start to get other Aggies to do the same thing. In fact, get us to donate more so other programs won't suffer for the grass. |
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Post by bluehaze on Apr 4, 2018 16:22:10 GMT -5
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Post by numberonebrave on Apr 4, 2018 20:25:26 GMT -5
Will Soccer be played on the football field ? The track teams use it all year. When is soccer season?
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