Maxell
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Post by Maxell on Mar 31, 2018 12:04:04 GMT -5
Man, we are looking at our game field! T&F is not a factor because the throwers don't throw there. Many of the spots were saw were from football logos. I asked Hilton about resources, expertise and knowledge of the grounds crew, type of grass, cost to maintain the fields and field turf. He said none of those things were an issue but he also,to his credit, he took responsibility for field conditions. He said we spend $50,000 - $60,000 a year on field maintenance. He said that he has considered turf but had not made a decision. Field turf would cost about $80,000 a year to finance. IMO, it's a matter of priority for athletic department. Optics are important. If it were me (and it's not),because I like grass, I'd put immense pressure on the facilities team step up their game and raise the standards, or I would contract out field maintenance to sports field experts. If this still concerns anyone, contact him at hiltone@ncat.edu. He will respond promptly. Ten(10) contacts may move him to action. The javelin is thrown on the game field and is a big issue because that's the one event that could damage a field turf base. We've talked that several times before. It's human to pay attention to what we want to... I get it. But no situation is cut & dry... otherwise it would be resolved already. It's why schools don't have their track collocated with their football field. We're a relic in that regard. Don't digress durhamgso, turf is not the issue. The issue is that we collectively don't care right now! Other things are more important to our leaders and to many of us. So we continue to make excuse after excuse. Reasons are the opposite of results.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Mar 31, 2018 12:35:59 GMT -5
The javelin is thrown on the game field and is a big issue because that's the one event that could damage a field turf base. We've talked that several times before. It's human to pay attention to what we want to... I get it. But no situation is cut & dry... otherwise it would be resolved already. It's why schools don't have their track collocated with their football field. We're a relic in that regard. Don't digress durhamgso, turf is not the issue. The issue is that we collectively don't care right now! Other things are more important to our leaders and to many of us. So we continue to make excuse after excuse. Reasons are the opposite of results.
I'm not digressing. You were the one who stated T&F wasn't a factor. I'm just reminding you that it is. It's not that I don't care about the aesthetics of the turf for the spring. It's that I understand that there are potential costs on the backend that I don't think any of us really want to have to deal with for the visual results we may desire. And it takes some wisdom (and sometimes some bad experiences) to be able to weigh those costs without being able to see it directly in your face. |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Mar 31, 2018 13:21:31 GMT -5
 Site of next week's Blue & Gold scrimmage. |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Mar 31, 2018 13:59:55 GMT -5
I am convinced that some of yall will make excuses for anything and everything that goes on at A&T.
Sometimes we just need to call a spade a spade.
The reason why change is often slow to take place is because too many people are satisfied with the status quo.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Mar 31, 2018 14:43:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 15:55:14 GMT -5
Why must we debate grass, again?
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Post by oldschool on Mar 31, 2018 16:07:05 GMT -5
I am convinced that some of yall will make excuses for anything and everything that goes on at A&T. Sometimes we just need to call a spade a spade. The reason why change is often slow to take place is because too many people are satisfied with the status quo.The status quo for us unfortunately is we have too many people "talking the talk but not walking the walk" . Let's use HPU as an example ,they just announced they will build a brand new basketball arena ,and not have to finance it . Why ,because they have people who will come out of their own pockets to make it happen . The building will be named for the president and his wife ,and the court will be named for Tubby Smith . Tubby is donating 1 million ,and the president and his wife will be cutting a check ,they will probably have 4 or 5 other people donate millions and it's taken care of . If people in our alumni base have issues with the football field not looking the way they think it should ,then those same people should invest their money into building a dedicated T&F complex , problem solved .As long as we use Aggie stadium for T&F and football the same issues will persist . As coach Broadway used to say "hope is not a plan" ,if we as alumni want all of these extra bells and whistles we have to be willing to fund these things out of our own pockets and not depend on ,and criticize , the university . And for those who will say "I already contribute " , if you're already contributing and you still have issues ,you need to donate more . |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Mar 31, 2018 18:02:16 GMT -5
Nope. That's sounds good on a message board but in reality "we need to give more money" is not a sufficient answer to most of these problems.
The mindset of our leadership all throughout the university is what needs to change before we can even expect to increase alumni donations.
I personally have peeked behind the curtain and seen what our development office looks like. Me and Dooms put a million dollar fundraising plan in their lap and they still did not want to take advantage of it.
It is a lot deeper than us alumni giving more money. Our university does not currently have the infrastructure in place to attract more money.
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Maxell
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Post by Maxell on Apr 1, 2018 3:04:10 GMT -5
I am convinced that some of yall will make excuses for anything and everything that goes on at A&T. Sometimes we just need to call a spade a spade. The reason why change is often slow to take place is because too many people are satisfied with the status quo.The status quo for us unfortunately is we have too many people "talking the talk but not walking the walk" . Let's use HPU as an example ,they just announced they will build a brand new basketball arena ,and not have to finance it . Why ,because they have people who will come out of their own pockets to make it happen . The building will be named for the president and his wife ,and the court will be named for Tubby Smith . Tubby is donating 1 million ,and the president and his wife will be cutting a check ,they will probably have 4 or 5 other people donate millions and it's taken care of . If people in our alumni base have issues with the football field not looking the way they think it should ,then those same people should invest their money into building a dedicated T&F complex , problem solved .As long as we use Aggie stadium for T&F and football the same issues will persist . As coach Broadway used to say "hope is not a plan" ,if we as alumni want all of these extra bells and whistles we have to be willing to fund these things out of our own pockets and not depend on ,and criticize , the university . And for those who will say "I already contribute " , if you're already contributing and you still have issues ,you need to donate more . All of what you say is nice but it does not apply to this particular issue. I will repeat. I asked the AD directly "Is money the issue?" He said no. How much more plain can you get? |
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Post by bseballaggie on Apr 1, 2018 7:20:56 GMT -5
The status quo for us unfortunately is we have too many people "talking the talk but not walking the walk" . Let's use HPU as an example ,they just announced they will build a brand new basketball arena ,and not have to finance it . Why ,because they have people who will come out of their own pockets to make it happen . The building will be named for the president and his wife ,and the court will be named for Tubby Smith . Tubby is donating 1 million ,and the president and his wife will be cutting a check ,they will probably have 4 or 5 other people donate millions and it's taken care of . If people in our alumni base have issues with the football field not looking the way they think it should ,then those same people should invest their money into building a dedicated T&F complex , problem solved .As long as we use Aggie stadium for T&F and football the same issues will persist . As coach Broadway used to say "hope is not a plan" ,if we as alumni want all of these extra bells and whistles we have to be willing to fund these things out of our own pockets and not depend on ,and criticize , the university . And for those who will say "I already contribute " , if you're already contributing and you still have issues ,you need to donate more . All of what you say is nice but it does not apply to this particular issue. I will repeat. I asked the AD directly "Is money the issue?" He said no. How much more plain can you get? Bottom Line, A&T is a Agriculutural University, the athletic grounds should be under the Ag Department if they can't grow and keep green grass, the department heads should be reprimanded, its grass. The greater point from Maxell's conversation with The AD is it hasn't been made a priority. |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 1, 2018 7:39:35 GMT -5
According to durhamgsoaggie, it's this guy's fault:  |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 1, 2018 10:51:57 GMT -5
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 1, 2018 10:53:36 GMT -5
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 3, 2018 11:35:13 GMT -5
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Post by bseballaggie on Apr 3, 2018 11:59:33 GMT -5
Maybe they are ashamed of how the field looks  |
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