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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 10, 2024 15:48:24 GMT -5
So are you saying that Bill Barlow is the reason why War Memorial Stadium has been a complete dump for the past 6 plus years and that everyone else at A&T has done their job perfectly? You can point fingers at Bill Barlow and Robert Pompey, Jr., Vice Chancellor for Business and Finance A.B.E Anybody but Earl
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Post by jbrob on Jun 10, 2024 15:50:35 GMT -5
Can we get the bushes next to the ditch cut?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 10, 2024 15:53:27 GMT -5
Can we get the bushes next to the ditch cut? It depends. Do you know how to work an hedge trimmer?
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 10, 2024 15:54:11 GMT -5
You can point fingers at Bill Barlow and Robert Pompey, Jr., Vice Chancellor for Business and Finance A.B.E Anybody but Earl Earl does not develop the plans, build the stadium or secure the money. Athletics is a customer. One day I will provide a tutorial on how things work in government organizations with multiple departments.
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Post by jbrob on Jun 10, 2024 16:16:26 GMT -5
Can we get the bushes next to the ditch cut? It depends. Do you know how to work an hedge trimmer? A&T has contractors on speed dial that will take care of those trees/bushes/thick weeds quickly.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 10, 2024 16:24:52 GMT -5
Earl does not develop the plans, build the stadium or secure the money. Athletics is a customer. One day I will provide a tutorial on how things work in government organizations with multiple departments. You act like you're saying something profound. No one here expects the athletic director to wear a hard hat and operate the actual bulldozer on construction projects. However, every AD in America has an active role in creating a vision for future stadium improvements, developing a fundraising model to fund those initiatives, working with the various campus entities to execute the project, and lastly, communicating the progress of those efforts to stakeholders. I can't remember the last time I've even heard Earl speak about War Memorial, outside of his annual BOT power point presentation.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jun 10, 2024 17:26:42 GMT -5
It depends. Do you know how to work an hedge trimmer? A&T has contractors on speed dial that will take care of those trees/bushes/thick weeds quickly. But does that ditch belong to A&T or to the City of Greensboro? If Greensboro owns it, they may not want us coming on their property and messing around with the bushes. Don't want the new Chansellor to have to deal with a feud with the City of Greensboro over some bushes.
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Post by ATLaggie on Jun 10, 2024 17:50:13 GMT -5
I don't believe in pointing fingers at Bill Barlow or anyone else for that matter. Working an historic preservation site is not the same as your normal rehab project, it's a longer timeline for sure.
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Post by saabman on Jun 10, 2024 18:53:01 GMT -5
I don't believe in pointing fingers at Bill Barlow or anyone else for that matter. Working an historic preservation site is not the same as your normal rehab project, it's a longer timeline for sure. To a degree your correct when it comes to the cosmetics of the structure itself..i.e front entrance to the stadium. But the infrastructure inside the stadium can be repaired at any time..i.e bathrooms, concession stands, hallways and locker rooms and seating areas and Press Box, can not only be changed but can be changed to accommodate other operational areas. I was home a few months ago and walk through the stadium with a friend ( who is a judge in Greensboro) of mine through a hole in the back fence that was still there from when we were was kids. There is no reason in my mind that nothing structurally has been done to repair any of those that stadium has., hell not even a Fresh coat of paint had been used from what I saw. But I don't live in Greensboro I just visit on occasion. It gave the appearance to me that not one damn thing has been done in earnest to upgrade that Stadium outside of moving the trash and a few eyesore items. Somebody should have fingers pointed at them but like anything they should be pointed at the head. If the ad is the head then he gets to blame and the ball rolls downhill from there. I really don't care who the blame should be placed on but what eats me up is. We purchased a stadium with historical values but yet we let it sit in total disrepair like an eyesore in the ghetto. There is no doubt in my mind if UNCG would have purchased this historical Stadium that it would not be up and functional and would be one of the crown jewels in the city of Greensboro. And I don't think a lot of you would disagree with that statement I just made.
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Post by aggiechampd on Jun 10, 2024 19:25:44 GMT -5
Earl does not develop the plans, build the stadium or secure the money. Athletics is a customer. One day I will provide a tutorial on how things work in government organizations with multiple departments. You act like you're saying something profound. No one here expects the athletic director to wear a hard hat and operate the actual bulldozer on construction projects. However, every AD in America has an active role in creating a vision for future stadium improvements, developing a fundraising model to fund those initiatives, working with the various campus entities to execute the project, and lastly, communicating the progress of those efforts to stakeholders. I can't remember the last time I've even heard Earl speak about War Memorial, outside of his annual BOT power point presentation. Robert Pompey talked about it more than Earl which says something.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jun 10, 2024 19:34:22 GMT -5
Earl probably requested that Pompey start handling all the facility presentations because he wants to save all his good excuses for when he misses another giving campaign deadline.
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Post by A&T-roy on Jun 10, 2024 19:49:21 GMT -5
I think it's reasonable to say that NOBODY. on here, knows "exactly" how they operate.
I'm just gonna be DISGUSTED that it's taking so long!
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Post by oldschool on Jun 11, 2024 3:54:03 GMT -5
I'm just as frustrated as most with the pace of progress ,or lack thereof ,concerning the stadium .However my frustration is tempered by some basic facts. I went back and read several articles dating back to 2015 ,that's when we entered into talks with the city .We did not officially (legally) gain ownership of the property until around February 2022 .I don't know of anybody who would spend money on a property that they didn't own ,and the city was not spending a whole lot of money to maintain it at this point .The city agreed to give $1.5 million but that was for the preservation of the facade only .Since I live here in the area ,I walked through and all around the stadium in 2022 one day while the team was practicing .It was crystal clear at that time that that due to the extreme deterioration of the concrete (exposed rebar) that everything except the facade would have to be demolished .
So for me the time clock only started in 2022 not the five or more years that some are talking about .Now two years is a long time to not have seen any progress and the blame lies squarely on Dr. Martin ,he is accountable for everything concerning NCAT ,good and the bad .All of the backlash could have been avoided with some basic and honest communication ,with frequent updates .Hopefully the next chancellor will possess all of the best qualities of Dr. Martin ,but also have a better sense of urgency when it comes to athletic facilities .
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 11, 2024 6:21:47 GMT -5
I'm just as frustrated as most with the pace of progress ,or lack thereof ,concerning the stadium .However my frustration is tempered by some basic facts. I went back and read several articles dating back to 2015 ,that's when we entered into talks with the city .We did not officially (legally) gain ownership of the property until around February 2022 .I don't know of anybody who would spend money on a property that they didn't own ,and the city was not spending a whole lot of money to maintain it at this point .The city agreed to give $1.5 million but that was for the preservation of the facade only .Since I live here in the area ,I walked through and all around the stadium in 2022 one day while the team was practicing .It was crystal clear at that time that that due to the extreme deterioration of the concrete (exposed rebar) that everything except the facade would have to be demolished . So for me the time clock only started in 2022 not the five or more years that some are talking about .Now two years is a long time to not have seen any progress and the blame lies squarely on Dr. Martin ,he is accountable for everything concerning NCAT ,good and the bad .All of the backlash could have been avoided with some basic and honest communication ,with frequent updates .Hopefully the next chancellor will possess all of the best qualities of Dr. Martin ,but also have a better sense of urgency when it comes to athletic facilities . I am going to respectfully disagree with you on one point. First, many entities (people, companies) invest money in things they don't own. In everyday life people sign leases or lease-to-own contracts where they spend their own money to fix up a property past that of the landlord or actual owner. That can not be the main or sole reason for A&T not to invest in repairing the stadium. My second argument highlights the above point even further. Why put out a budget plan for all to see with a schedule of construction or repairs starting before A&T fully own the stadium as you stated in 2022? This would not make sense, therefore one can only conclude that A&T intended to invest money into the repair of Memorial Stadium before 2022 but things did not go as planned. Someone posted a link of the original plans on page 1 of this thread back in 2018. Sorry, I am not qualified to discuss much of anything else about the problems with Memorial Stadium.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 11, 2024 6:25:11 GMT -5
Let's not forget A&T has completed some renovations...
Renovated the team bathroom and showers.
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