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Post by aggierattler on Jul 29, 2014 18:46:35 GMT -5
OldSchool, I think you're missing the point a little. You keep mentioning HU's and FAMU qb, as though we're trying to put things only on the back of the qb. That's not what we are eluding too. Consistent qb play will move the chains in the MEAC, put the team into scoring position. It will still take a team effort to score, no doubt. But, to move the ball up and down the field, getting first downs, and not turning it over is key. Situation ball in terms of good decisions being made when the line/blocking breaks down, and not taking sacks unnecessarily. This is what we mean as it relates to qb play. Yes, the qb's at Howard and FAMU put up points, but their defenses we're shabby. We had a solid defense last year, but shabby offensive play (inconsistent). Quality qb play would have propelled us to an 11-1 record for sure. FAMU's QB (Fleming) was horrible last season! It's been a long time since I've seen an athlete regress that much in an off-season.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jul 30, 2014 6:58:37 GMT -5
One great thing about last year's A&T football season...it's over. Let's see which players show up this year ready to play and how our coaching staff prepares them to win. That's what I'm interested in.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 30, 2014 8:34:15 GMT -5
OldSchool, I think you're missing the point a little. You keep mentioning HU's and FAMU qb, as though we're trying to put things only on the back of the qb. That's not what we are eluding too. Consistent qb play will move the chains in the MEAC, put the team into scoring position. It will still take a team effort to score, no doubt. But, to move the ball up and down the field, getting first downs, and not turning it over is key. Situation ball in terms of good decisions being made when the line/blocking breaks down, and not taking sacks unnecessarily. This is what we mean as it relates to qb play. Yes, the qb's at Howard and FAMU put up points, but their defenses we're shabby. We had a solid defense last year, but shabby offensive play (inconsistent). Quality qb play would have propelled us to an 11-1 record for sure. gator, i understand what you’re saying, but i respectfully disagree to a certain extent relative to meac play. see, to me, the meac is not and never has been a “qb” league. the meac has never been known for the quality of its qb’s. other than howard’s jay walker, i don’t recall any qb’s from the meac ever making to the nfl. i think the swac has had way more top quality qb’s than the meac. me on the other hand, i think the meac is more of a “defensive” league. many of our head coaches are defense oriented, just as coach broadway is. all the things you stated relative to a good qb is true, but i don’t think any of the meac’s qb’s exhibit all of those qualities, including mcghee and to me he’s the best. my only point is that too much “blame” is placed on the qb whenever we lose even though there are many other facets of the game that has also gone wrong. case in point, the dsu game that we loss when we literally shot ourselves in the foot with those numerous erroneous shotgun snaps from center. also as i have already mentioned, i feel that the defense let us down in both the morgan state and famu games. there’s plenty of “blame” to go around for everybody and it shouldn’t all be placed on the shoulders of the qb. does the qb deserve some blame? sure the qb does, but so does almost everybody else. can’t just blame one person, especially in football which is the “ultimate” team sport. i was taught that you win as a team and you lose as a team. i’m not down with a bunch of “finger pointing”. a lot of posters here have “hidden agendas” and place blame on individuals just because they don’t like those individuals. to criticize one individual but don’t see even more glaring flaws elsewhere on the team is very telling to me. criticize? yes. but be “objective” with the criticism instead of personalizing the criticism. despite what others say, our defense had some major issues last season that needs to be addressed this season. i don’t know whether the problem was “scheme” (prevent defense) or whether it was “personnel”. but we blew leads late in games last season that we shouldn’t have. clearly we would’ve won the morgan game had we not had defensive breakdowns late in the game. but you will find critics who blame the qb for that loss even though we were 12 for 17 (71%) passing the ball in that game...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 30, 2014 8:34:40 GMT -5
One great thing about last year's A&T football season...it's over. Let's see which players show up this year ready to play and how our coaching staff prepares them to win. That's what I'm interested in. i totally agree...
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Post by saabman on Jul 30, 2014 9:28:18 GMT -5
One great thing about last year's A&T football season...it's over. Let's see which players show up this year ready to play and how our coaching staff prepares them to win. That's what I'm interested in. i totally agree... Again. on point OSA. I see it this way the MEAC is known for RB's, DB's, DL and a few OL man. I still feel that if we would have ran the rock more in the first 1/2 of the 2013 season we would have won maybe 9 gameš . Also the D needs work and a lot of it we lost a lot but no one is talking about the D .
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Post by numberonebrave on Jul 30, 2014 15:13:14 GMT -5
Gray qb from FAMU stayed a few seasons in the NFL. Another qb from FAMU was drafted by SD. Do not think he got in a preseason game before he was gone
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Post by bluehaze on Jul 30, 2014 15:21:10 GMT -5
Maynor made a career of playing QB in the AFL, but I agree with OSA's overall assertion that this is not a QB league. It's also probably ties directly into why we aren't successful in the playoffs.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jul 30, 2014 15:56:16 GMT -5
.....which is why I am keeping a keen eye on Maynor's progress at Hampton. He's about offense; he's about good QB play. He's already proven his brand of football works outside of just the HBCU ranks. Outside of us, I really want to see Maynor succeed bigtime at Hampton.
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Post by Bigboy on Jul 30, 2014 16:07:20 GMT -5
Maynor has a good QB returning for Hampton. I don't remember his name but he was a Fr last season. His first start was against us and it was their first win of the season. He should improve under Maynor.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jul 30, 2014 16:37:50 GMT -5
I just have a feeling that Hampton's money and commitment to athletics, in combination with Maynor's aggression, is going to change the MEAC for years to come.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 30, 2014 17:06:02 GMT -5
Gray qb from FAMU stayed a few seasons in the NFL. Another qb from FAMU was drafted by SD. Do not think he got in a preseason game before he was gone yep, you're right. i also believe that howard had another qb other than walker who spent a brief amount of time in the nfl but his name escapes at the moment. however, the swac had a ton qb's to play in the nfl. most notably doug williams, the late steve "air" mcnair, james harris, and tarvaris jackson just to name a few. but there's even more swac qb's who played in the nfl. i'm not quite sure why the meac hasn't produced too many great qb's like the swac except that the swac has a much richer history in football than the meac does...
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Post by bigpeete1 on Jul 30, 2014 17:57:49 GMT -5
OSA, I think the Howard QB you are thinking of is Pep Hamilton, now the O.C. of the Indy Colts. I think he was Luck QB coach before becoming the O.C.
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Post by saabman on Jul 30, 2014 22:16:55 GMT -5
OSA, I think the Howard QB you are thinking of is Pep Hamilton, now the O.C. of the Indy Colts. I think he was Luck QB coach before becoming the O.C. Pep Hamilton never made it too the show (NFL)
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Post by AggieGroove on Jul 31, 2014 4:12:29 GMT -5
OSA, I think the Howard QB you are thinking of is Pep Hamilton, now the O.C. of the Indy Colts. I think he was Luck QB coach before becoming the O.C. Pep Hamilton never made it too the show (NFL) Ted white
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Post by bigpeete1 on Jul 31, 2014 7:11:14 GMT -5
He may never had made as a player but he has made it as coach in the in the show?
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