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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 15, 2011 14:46:02 GMT -5
i'll tell ya what, monster. i don't buy into hype, especially nccu hype. i have to see stuff with my own eyes before i buy into it. i watched the entire game between nccu and nc state, i still have it on my dvr hard drive. that game was just as close as the final score indicated (65-60). nc state played their starting rotation for that entire game and had to hold on for dear life. there was no garbage time. nccu had the guns to go toe to toe with nc state. not saying nc state is a powerhouse or anything like that, but normally teams like that blowout hbcu's.
look folks, i don't like giving nccu credit for anything, period. but just because i'm an aggie don't mean i won't call a spade a spade when i see one. i honestly see nccu being at least a top 3 meac team this season with a legitimate chance to win it all. of the meac teams i've seen so far this season on tv (csu, ssu, nsu, howard, msu, a&t) and what i've seen of the other meac teams last season, the only teams central will probably have trouble with are nsu, msu (when they're healthy), maybe ssu, and maybe hampton (if they add new players in january as they say). i don't see central having a lot of trouble with the rest of the league, though its proven that anybody can lose to anybody on any given night.
that boy, sutton, is a straight up beast. will dunk on anybody, including major d1's. he's there leading scorer, transfer from kansas state. the dude, willis, transfer from oklahoma is the real deal too. we don't have anybody on our team as good as those two. they don't have a dominant inside presence, but nobody in the meac does except nsu and msu.
you're right, time will definitely tell. but unless my eyes have deceived me, i expect them to make a run for the meac championship...
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Post by The Professor on Dec 15, 2011 16:33:35 GMT -5
And when Eaves leaves, whomever the next coach is will be at min of 150 to 160 K per year. Where is that extra money coming from c'mon, professor. if we pay our next men's coach that much money then our admins are total idiots and they all need to be fired. where do ya'll come up with these outrageous salaries? there's no reason whatsoever for us to pay anybody that much money to coach our men. nobody in the meac (that i'm aware of) makes that kind of money unless its todd bozeman. nobody in the ciaa makes that kind of money. so why should we pay that kind of salary to anyone? No Division I men's coach is going to come in and make the same as the women's coach. It's not going to happen. These coaches have agents. 1st thing they are going to ask is what's the salaries of the coaches of the department. Then ask coaches of the MEAC. If Bibbs makes 132K , 150 is probably going to be the starting point. You don't have to believe me, just watch. You have already seen that we will pay money for coaches.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Dec 15, 2011 16:43:14 GMT -5
So a Div II Coach has an agent ? LOL
So you are telling me that one of the better CIAA coaches that probably makes $75K is not going to come and Coach a D I team for $120K because the womens Coach makes more and his agent says its a bad deal?
Some of you guys must think we are an ACC school !!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2011 16:44:57 GMT -5
"Wake me when its over." -Terius Nash (The Dream) LMAO +1 for this reference... ;D
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Post by The Professor on Dec 15, 2011 17:07:55 GMT -5
So a Div II Coach has an agent ? LOL So you are telling me that one of the better CIAA coaches that probably makes $75K is not going to come and Coach a D I team for $120K because the womens Coach makes more and his agent says its a bad deal? Some of you guys must think we are an ACC school !!!! If you think people are making life changing decisions without consultation, then you are a fool. Especially with a school like us with our HR issues and decisions. Someone is looking at that contract, either an agent or lawyer. And they are going to ask for the top dollar. Just wait and see
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Dec 15, 2011 17:24:17 GMT -5
I agree with you that any person would have an attorney review the contract. But you and I both know that practicaly every Coach in the CIAA would run down hwy 95 like they were on price is right to Coach the Aggies and make $120k.
I think you are dismissing the fact that there are alot good assistant Coaches on D1 squads making less than $75k. And a ton of head DII coaches making around $75k. Thats a big pay increase plus the opportunity to Coach a D1 team.
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Post by The Professor on Dec 15, 2011 18:16:40 GMT -5
Yeah , Wes Miller is at UNCG making 55 K, another asst there is making 60 K. What are our assistants making. My point is very simple. Look at our history of salaries. That's what these folk are going to go by.
We aren't going to hire a coach from the CIAA. They are going to go after a name. A&T people are tired of losing. Look at what we did in football. A&T fans are tired of losing and the fan base is demanding a proven winner. Winners cost money
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Post by aggiejazz on Dec 15, 2011 18:54:49 GMT -5
"Coaching Division I basketball is so easy, even a caveman can do it" say Naysayers Even coaching at A&T? Yes even coaching at A&T.
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Post by aggiejazz on Dec 15, 2011 19:09:52 GMT -5
So a Div II Coach has an agent ? LOL So you are telling me that one of the better CIAA coaches that probably makes $75K is not going to come and Coach a D I team for $120K because the womens Coach makes more and his agent says its a bad deal? Some of you guys must think we are an ACC school !!!! I am trying to figure out which CIAA head basketball coach who is winning, is making only $75,000. In fact which CIAA coach would you hire?
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Dec 15, 2011 20:57:31 GMT -5
At first take probably whoever is at Bowie State they are ranked D II team. But my point is if we were in the CIAA this year we would not win that conference either. There are a ton of good D11 coaches that would come here.
I'll leave the hiring to Hilton. And I dont think we need to get a big name in order to be succesful.
Oh yea if memory serves me correct Stit is making 60K as well.
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Post by aggiekanye2 on Dec 16, 2011 7:52:00 GMT -5
eaves has to bring in at $500,000 to the department it is written in his contract. His program on gets $135,00 of the $500, 000. Out of the $135,000 Eaves has to pay for his assistiants coaches n his players summer school. If u dont believe that ask Coach Eaves. The rest of his guranteed money is use to pay for travel for track, volleyball, and other sports. Eaves had to bail out football out on meals one yr.
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Post by aggie2ru on Dec 16, 2011 8:13:21 GMT -5
We can still get sumbody under the same restrictions (if that is the case) to get better talent, keep APR straight, AND win. The artist formally known as "Lee Jerry Eaves Fobbs" is a drag!!!!
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 16, 2011 8:22:05 GMT -5
Dont accept a contract and then complain about it later. If what you say is true about the $500,000 then why accept it and then say well "if I didn't have to give up 375 of my 500 I could do some things"?
Its just no excuse for his record over the last 8 1/2 years. I'm not saying he is in a good situation, but coaches have won with way less. Coaches have at least looked decent 3 or 4 years out of 8 for way less.
I think I'm taking a silent protest approach to basketball this year. This will probably be my last post referencing Eaves. EVER!!
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Post by DECKS on Dec 16, 2011 9:04:58 GMT -5
c'mon, professor. if we pay our next men's coach that much money then our admins are total idiots and they all need to be fired. where do ya'll come up with these outrageous salaries? there's no reason whatsoever for us to pay anybody that much money to coach our men. nobody in the meac (that i'm aware of) makes that kind of money unless its todd bozeman. nobody in the ciaa makes that kind of money. so why should we pay that kind of salary to anyone? No Division I men's coach is going to come in and make the same as the women's coach. It's not going to happen. These coaches have agents. 1st thing they are going to ask is what's the salaries of the coaches of the department. Then ask coaches of the MEAC. If Bibbs makes 132K , 150 is probably going to be the starting point. You don't have to believe me, just watch. You have already seen that we will pay money for coaches. That is not going to happen. If they bring in a mens coach making $150k then Bibbs will have to be raised to the same amount given her acheivments. I suspect our next mens coach will come in somewhere around $110k unless he has a helluva resume.
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Post by DECKS on Dec 16, 2011 9:18:19 GMT -5
eaves has to bring in at $500,000 to the department it is written in his contract. His program on gets $135,00 of the $500, 000. Out of the $135,000 Eaves has to pay for his assistiants coaches n his players summer school. If u dont believe that ask Coach Eaves. The rest of his guranteed money is use to pay for travel for track, volleyball, and other sports. Eaves had to bail out football out on meals one yr. Correction. Eaves is required to generate $325,000 from guarantee games, all of which goes to the university (general fund?). Any amount over $325,000 is split equally between mens basketball and the rest of the athletic department.
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