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Post by aggiebred09 on May 3, 2011 9:04:58 GMT -5
Shumate shipped out because we werent taking Baseball seriously.... Maybe we should just switch to Golf. The expenses are probably similar.
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Post by Aggie77 on May 3, 2011 10:09:08 GMT -5
Yes, as real estate, not as a stadium. That historic façade would make a great entry to a convocation center, so would the location. The city appears to no longer have an interest in the facility, due to renovation costs, maintenance costs and a new downtown park. The only interest parties are A&T and the neighborhood. We have a better negotiation position than the neighborhood. After all, it’s been a sports venue location for what 80 years, so that argument is already mitigated.
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Post by aggiebred09 on May 3, 2011 10:29:54 GMT -5
Yes, as real estate, not as a stadium. That historic façade would make a great entry to a convocation center, so would the location. Excellent suggestion as well. I think regardless of how the space is used there is a definite and immadiate need for the land.
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Post by aggiejazz on May 3, 2011 12:28:54 GMT -5
My caution is that A&T will have the right to explore all of their plausible options without the City with its planning commission standing in the way.
Call me a conspiracy nut but I fear A&T will buy the property then the City of Greensboro will step-in and tell A&T what they can and can't do with property after the purchase. Part of the negotiation has to be what limitations the City planning commission will put on A&T should A&T decides to use the stadium and surrounding property for something other than an outdoor sports stadium.
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Post by @ProfBellamy on May 3, 2011 13:43:27 GMT -5
I believe A&T has an obligation to keep War Memorial alive. My pops remembers his days playing football in the stadium. I think it would be interesting to use the entrance facade as a gateway to a new arena/convocation center. However, it's location would be awkward and the neighborhood would fight against it.
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Post by Aggie77 on May 3, 2011 14:41:36 GMT -5
That neighborhood is becoming more and more commercial, making it less and less residential. It’s only a block from Summit Ave. It would give us a great foothold for expansion in that direction. I don’t know about the obligation part, but your dad will always have his memories. Plus, what happens when it becomes a strip mall with a 7-11 as the anchor?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 16:53:01 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Greensboro College can buy the place outright?
Has anyone spoke with Mr. Hilton about this topic? This should be towards the top of the priority list for athletics, if we are serious about keeping baseball.
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Post by aggiejazz on May 3, 2011 19:04:34 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Greensboro College can buy the place outright? Has anyone spoke with Mr. Hilton about this topic? This should be towards the top of the priority list for athletics, if we are serious about keeping baseball. I think Greensboro College has her eyes on another stretch of property and is fighting with the neighborhood civic league that surrounds it.
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on May 4, 2011 7:15:27 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Greensboro College can buy the place outright? Has anyone spoke with Mr. Hilton about this topic? This should be towards the top of the priority list for athletics, if we are serious about keeping baseball. Its not the only baseball field in town, just the closest. If A&T did purchase it, it would be a financial nightmare and the athletic department in its current state could not afford the upkeep. You understand that since its an athletic facility, there would have to be a creative way to fund its renovation and upkeep. I know that it was always looked at as the spot for the new convocation center.
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Post by DOOMS on May 4, 2011 7:35:34 GMT -5
In another thread about it a year or so ago I suggested that we put a couple of classrooms in it and let it be considered an academic building. I had read somewhere that NC State had a few ROTC classrooms under Carter-Finley and it qualified as an academic building or something like that.
Then I remembered that we don't possess the financial savvy nor infrastructure to pull it off.
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Post by Bigboy on May 4, 2011 8:05:32 GMT -5
Fla. State did the same thing with their football stadium. They received state money to renovate it because the facade was also classrooms. It saved the state money because they did not have to purchase land to build a brand new classroom building. A&T could also do the same thing with Aggie Stadium if the need arises for a new classroom building.
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Post by Tee-Sharp on May 4, 2011 8:14:52 GMT -5
War Memorial is in terrible shape and is not a smart purchase. I believe the stadium will be condemned within 5 years, perhaps sooner. Whoever owns it will be stuck with one doozy of a renovation in order to reopen the stadium. $186,000 a year will not be enough to keep it open. The city wants it off of their hands because they know what’s coming.
Does A&T have the money to renovate and maintain that stadium? With the cost of renovating plus maintenance, A&T could perhaps build a nice little stadium of their own. Where? I don t know but A&T could rent a city park stadium for a couple of years until land near the campus becomes available.
It’s a shame that Greensboro never passed the bonds that would have renovated historic War Memorial Stadium. Perhaps the stadium is in the wrong part of town for the majority of the city council to care.
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Post by aggiebred09 on May 4, 2011 9:13:58 GMT -5
Perhaps the stadium is in the wrong part of town for the majority of the city council to care. That is the argument. The city doesn't want to deal with it and its in the wrong part of town to generate enough bond support. A&T is in a perfect position to negotiate this deal, but do we have the right minds in the right places to position us for success. There are tons of things we could negotiate to sweeten the deal including usage. We have the possibility to grab possibly the best remaining piece of property near campus and we will miss it thinking inside the box. Also, have you seen the public ball parks in Greensboro? They are no field of dreams. If we opt out of Memorial and play in one of those kiddie parks then we really dont care about the state of our baseball program.
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Post by DOOMS on May 4, 2011 9:15:20 GMT -5
My thinking is like Bigboy stated. Put some classrooms in it and then you get state money to renovate it. On top of that, get some historic preservation grants. Just move that plane from in front of the ROTC building, move ROTC over there, and make the ROTC building into something else. The idea is simple, and were we UNCG the execution would also be simple.
Of course, you need people with know how to do that sort of thing. And they need backing from the administration, so that ends that discussion.
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Post by aggiebred09 on May 4, 2011 9:28:52 GMT -5
Just move that plane from in front of the ROTC building, move ROTC over there, and make the ROTC building into something else. The idea is simple, and were we UNCG the execution would also be simple. Of course, you need people with know how to do that sort of thing. And they need backing from the administration, so that ends that discussion. That makes all the sense in the world after all it is WAR MEMORIAL... Some answers don't take a Phd. If they were serious about this all it would take is a university committee or one person already doing very little in an office and make them the executive director of War Memorial making them responsible for planning and fund-raising for the project. In a year we would have more than enough funding and attention for the project.
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