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Post by aggiejazz on Jun 7, 2007 7:49:47 GMT -5
As usual important MEAC business news is coming out of Hampton University and not the MEAC Office. The Urban League is another black organization who can't keep their financial business in order to put on a successful HBCU football classic. I like a lot of blacks thought the Urban League Classic was well run.
MEAC football won't split Daily Press June 7, 2007, 6:58 AM EDT Hampton football coach Joe Taylor said the MEAC has rejected splitting into divisions and playing a championship game when Winston-Salem State becomes eligible for conference play in 2010. Instead, the conference will adopt a seven- or eight-game conference schedule similar to the Big Ten's.
Taylor said MEAC Commissioner Dennis Thomas wants to ensure rivalries stay intact under the new format, so Norfolk State will remain an annual fixture on the Pirates' schedule. Taylor added that the New York Urban League Classic definitely will not be played this season.
HU played annually in the Classic – held at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J. – for almost 20 years. Taylor said the game committee could not offer an attractive enough financial package for the Pirates to commit to it this season.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 7, 2007 8:13:12 GMT -5
I like the idea of always keeping rivalries intact. NCCU and WSSU should ALWAYS be on our schedule. but why cant the league be split like this. NSU, HU, HU, MSU, DSU north and NCAT, WSSU, FAM, BCC, SCSU, and NCCU(eventually) south. You still got plenty of room to put teams from the other side on your schedule and get 2 non conference games along with a conference championship.
The CIAA gets away with it and still goes to the playoffs after the championship game.
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Post by JayBee on Jun 7, 2007 8:20:36 GMT -5
Dennis Thomas is a bone head! Eventually, if he lets NCCU in the conference, he will have to split it. Else he'll have a schedule full of conference games.
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Post by DOOMS on Jun 7, 2007 8:50:40 GMT -5
I don't like a split. We're pretty much in the south but our traditional rivals are the old ciaa teams and SC State. Are you gonna travel to Howard or Cookman if you have to choose between the two? Of course Cookman's near the beach but they're faaar from a traditional rival.
For years I've felt the conference should tell Fam, BCC, Del State and SC State sayonara. That would help the travel budget of every school in the conference immensely. Fam, BCC and SC State could form a new conference with SSU, Skeegee, Bama A&M, Bama State and Benedict or somebody. Bam, their travel costs are cut and they have (for the most part) an extremely competitive conference.
The meac is us, Winston, Central, NSU, Hampton, Howard, Morgan, UMES, Coppin, and we invite VSU. Del State can float in limbo, convince some conference to let them join or float in limbo.
The swac goes back to Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi. We petition the NCAA and get the playoffs up to 24 teams (they've been debating doing that anyway) to accomodate the new conference and I have no idea what we do for basketball.
All the old rivals can still play each other due to the increase of non-conference slots.
But travel costs are a killer in this conference and they're only gonna get worse. Contraction may eventually be the only way to save the conference.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2007 9:30:09 GMT -5
Why get rid of SC STATE? On what grounds does a conference get rid of teams? Do you think VSU wants to BE D-1 ( OR CAN AFFORD TO BE D-1) . Is NCCU A DONE DEAL?
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 7, 2007 9:42:36 GMT -5
I'm not saying to split and NEVER play the northern teams. remember, this is only a football split, not everthing else. we could split and easily have a schedule that looks like this(in no particular order)
NCCU WSSU SCSU FAMU BCC HU HU NSU(or MSU or DSU) Non-conference Non-conference Conference Championship
NCCU is not even in the MEAC yet so they are non-conference as well for now. Scheduling is rocket science. Escpecially when the money is better to do a split.
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Post by Tee-Sharp on Jun 7, 2007 9:45:22 GMT -5
Setup like the Big10 eh? Whenever NCCU gets in, both conferences will have 11 football playing schools so the format might work.
“The Big Ten football schedule is set up with each team having two permanent rivalries within the conference, with the other eight teams in the conference rotating out of the schedule in pairs for two-year stints.”
For instance (permanent rivals):
• Illinois: Northwestern, Indiana • Indiana: Illinois, Purdue • Iowa: Minnesota, Wisconsin • Michigan: Michigan State, Ohio State
So which MEAC schools will pair off?
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 7, 2007 9:50:20 GMT -5
This is with NCCU in
A&T:NCCU, WSSU NCCU:WSSU, A&T WSSU: A&T, WSSU Howard:Hampton, MSU Hampton:Howard, NSU BCC: FAM, ? FAM: BCC, ? MSU:NSU, Howard NSU:MSU, Hampton
Just throw Del State in there somewhere, but again. Coming up with our own solution isn't that complicated in my opinion. We dont have to follow them "to the letter". we could have 3 rivals per school. Having 2 divisions puts rivalrys together anyway. Play your division and then 2(at least) from the other.
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Post by aggiejazz on Jun 7, 2007 12:25:55 GMT -5
You must have 12 football teams in the conference to have a conference championship and not be banned from the football championship series (1AA playoffs). This subject has been thoroughly discussed many times on the MEACfans with the NCAA rules about post season football games.
When it comes to basketball, I believe the MEAC will have no choice but to have two divisions.
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Post by AggiePride on Jun 7, 2007 16:25:46 GMT -5
Aggie Monster I agree with you but it would suck not playing Howard every year. Since we are the most centrally located and have some of the longest series with schools, I am sure there will be alot of schools that miss us if dont play them- SCSU, HU, and NSU in particular.
FAMU: BCC, SCSU BCC:FAMU, SCSU
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 8, 2007 12:43:36 GMT -5
Unrelated Question(sort of). Does Howard actually look at A&T as a "Rival". I have 2 people in my family that graduated from Howard. 1 over 50 and the other is 26 years old. Neither talk like A&T is a big rival for them. But whenever we play Howard it's a big deal to a lot of A&T fans.
It's like that whole UNC thing. Everyone thinks their is a rivalry between them and UNC(NC State, Wake Forest), but everyone knows that UNC only gives a damn about Duke.
Any Hampton fans here. Help me out with this one. Is A&T a big rival to Howard students and alumni?
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Post by DOOMS on Jun 8, 2007 13:32:49 GMT -5
It depends. Like Central isn't a big rival to some of us (present company included) A&T isn't a big rival to some Howard folks.
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Post by JayBee on Jun 8, 2007 13:36:08 GMT -5
Unrelated Question(sort of). Does Howard actually look at A&T as a "Rival". I have 2 people in my family that graduated from Howard. 1 over 50 and the other is 26 years old. Neither talk like A&T is a big rival for them. But whenever we play Howard it's a big deal to a lot of A&T fans. It's like that whole UNC thing. Everyone thinks their is a rivalry between them and UNC(NC State, Wake Forest), but everyone knows that UNC only gives a damn about Duke. Any Hampton fans here. Help me out with this one. Is A&T a big rival to Howard students and alumni? Yes, we are a big rival for Howard. We have a large concentration of Alumni located in the D.C. area and there is a lot of bragging taking place about each school's athletic programs.
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Post by JayBee on Jun 8, 2007 13:40:30 GMT -5
It depends. Like Central isn't a big rival to some of us (present company included) A&T isn't a big rival to some Howard folks. So Dooms, which school(s) do you consider rivals for A&T?
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Post by DOOMS on Jun 8, 2007 14:11:21 GMT -5
Howard and SC State. SC State because a lot of my family went there. I feel I'll see Winston and Central as rivals shortly. Remember, I was at A&T during a time when we dominated Winston and Central and they provided no comp whatsoever.
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