|
Post by aggiejazz on Oct 18, 2010 19:48:47 GMT -5
Let's give the coaches,players, and tutor some credit on the increased APR score. Kudos DITTO!!!! I agree......... I agree also but 917 isn't enough to get those scholarships back: Each Division I sports team receives an APR score.
High-performing teams receive public recognition from the NCAA.
Teams that score below 925 and have a student-athlete who failed academically and left school can lose scholarships. Teams can lose up to 10 percent of their scholarships each year for poor academic performance under the immediate penalty structure.
Teams with APR scores below 900 face additional sanctions under the historical penalty structure, now in its third year.
First-year sanction is a public warning letter for poor performance.
Second-year sanctions include restrictions on scholarships and practice time.
Third-year sanctions result in loss of postseason competition for the team (such as a bowl game or the men’s basketball tournament).
Four consecutive years of poor academic performance results in restricted membership status for an institution. This means the school will not be considered a Division I college or university.
The NCAA developed a squad-size adjustment, similar to a margin of error in polling, for the beginning years of academic reform to account for the limited amount of data. With the fourth year of APR data in 2007-08, the squad-size adjustment has been eliminated.www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/ncaahome?WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=/ncaa/ncaa/media+and+events/press+room/current+issues/academic+reform
|
|
|
Post by aggiejazz on Oct 18, 2010 19:56:55 GMT -5
As you can see above, the football program and A&T is near "critical mass". I am not sure if A&T is into its 3rd year or 4th year of poor performance cycle but as you can read above, after a college's/university's 4th year of low APR the institution will lose their status as a full-fledged Division I college/university.
|
|
2shay
Full Member
There's only one, A&T!
Posts: 128
|
Post by 2shay on Oct 18, 2010 22:07:02 GMT -5
Aggiejazz, If our APR is above 900 this year, we aren’t near critical mass, the APR has to be below 900 for 4 years to get decertified. Even with that if you can show improvement the NCAA won't decertify you. As stated on the following website, “The goal of the Academic Progress Rate and its penalty system is improvement, not punishment.”: www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/academics/division+i/how+is+apr+calculated
|
|
|
Post by aggiejazz on Oct 18, 2010 22:45:02 GMT -5
2shay:
The NCAA calculates the rate as a rolling, four-year figure that takes into account all the points student-athletes could earn for remaining in school and academically eligible during that period. Teams that do not earn an Academic Progress Rate above specific benchmarks face penalties ranging from scholarship reductions to more severe sanctions.
A&T football team had a APR of 843 with the rolling 4-year beginning school year August 2005-May 2006 and ending in May 2009. The next APR will be published in May/June 2011, starting with school year August 2006 - May 2007 and ending May 2010.
In school year 2008-2009, the football team's one year APR was 848. I am not sure how anyone can come up with a 4-yr APR score at this time when it takes time to get all of the data, calculate and check and recheck. And I seriously doubt the 4-yr APR score will be over 925 in 2011 with the previous 3 years in the 800's.
|
|
2shay
Full Member
There's only one, A&T!
Posts: 128
|
Post by 2shay on Oct 19, 2010 9:35:46 GMT -5
All I am saying is that if we show improvement, we won't be decertified.
|
|
|
Post by krazykev on Oct 19, 2010 9:51:20 GMT -5
All I am saying is that if we show improvement, we won't be decertified. 2shay I agree with you this is an improvement and we are going in the right direction...agggiejazz, Thrilla stated that we get a increase up to 57 and hopefully the next year we are back at 63. Last time I checked 57 is better than 44.
|
|
|
Post by SixtiesAggie on Oct 19, 2010 10:04:04 GMT -5
Yep, there is a two year plan to reach the full compliment of players on scholarship. The magic number of fifty-seven supposedly will allow us to schedule the majors. Playing for the money!!
|
|
|
Post by aggiejazz on Oct 19, 2010 11:13:53 GMT -5
I stated that A&T is at critical mass with football program's APR and they are.
Secondly, I will wait until June 2011 to see the 2009-2010 APR numbers because I know this football program had academic casualties and those players are not on this year's team. We also know the athletic department is still struggling to have a solid program in place to help the football players who are still struggling academically.
Unless A&T gets a huge influx of money and is allowed to get 13 scholarships back in January 2011, the number of players on scholarship isn't jumping from 44 to 57 next year and maybe not in 2012. Dr. Martin is not cleaning house because the football program is on the right track. Dr. Martin is making moves to get this football program on track.
This football program has proven to have a culture of losing and operating academically at the APR rate of 850. Talk is cheap when it comes to winning, improving APRs and fully funding scholarships. So, I don't know want you guys are seeing and drinking but I can imagine it's blueish-purple cool-Aid.
|
|
oleschoolaggie
Official BDF member
2009 Poster of the Year, 2009 Most Knowledgeable Poster
Posts: 24,210
|
Post by oleschoolaggie on Oct 19, 2010 11:17:51 GMT -5
it really would be nice to get back up to 57 schollies. but given the woes that we're having this season, it'll be pretty interesting to see what kind of recruiting class we'll be able to come up with in terms of "quality". i'm just thinking we're gonna be a tough sell this time around...
|
|
2shay
Full Member
There's only one, A&T!
Posts: 128
|
Post by 2shay on Oct 19, 2010 14:32:18 GMT -5
aggiejazz,
“critical mass” would have been hit when that “new” Academic Policy (not really new, newly enforced) was written. The NCAA does give waiver on penalties if you show progress, in other words we would want our APR to have a little number 3 by it in the report, stating:
"3 Denotes APR that does not subject the team to historical penalties due to the team's demonstrated academic improvement and favorable comparison based on other academic or institutional factors."
FYI: FAMU and Norfolk State are the only MEAC schools that are at or above a 925 four-year APR, the rest either have waivers or some sort of penalty (Hampton, Morgan, Del St., and us)
|
|
|
Post by faithfulaggie on Oct 21, 2010 23:50:44 GMT -5
Hines better have one of those newly designed Helmets this weekend. And hopefully, many of those players that Lee Recruited this past year that aren't able to play due to grades will be added to the team in the Spring. I was thinking that Hines is returning too soon. It is Monday, the team returned to campus on Saturday night. So what doctor, neurologist, will give a kid a go-ahead from a concussion this quick? Correction, when did Coach Lee become a nuerologist? It was only a mild concussion
|
|
|
Post by thefriscotxaggie on Oct 22, 2010 8:15:29 GMT -5
They have come along way in medical concussion testing for football. I know because my son plays high school football. Before the season started each kid had to do a concussion test. The equipment I think measures the pleasure in your eyes and position of your brain. If they suspect a concussion the kid takes the test again and if the measurments off they sit out.
They have had a few kids sit out 2 games before returning others just 1 based on the test.
|
|