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Post by SixtiesAggie on Apr 1, 2009 14:40:33 GMT -5
I wasn't at the game on Saturday, so I couldn't tell you. I just know how the offensive line performed in 2008. Oh, how I remember so well the ineffective play of the OL. Three and out was the motto of the offense. However, I thought I heard some encouraging accounts about the play of the offense. I believe (hope) with this new coaching staff, there will be great overall team improvement.
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Post by coach205 on Apr 8, 2009 8:40:04 GMT -5
Let me offer my humble opinion if I can. First of all poor o-line play last year was because of the system. For 2 years I taught those guys how to Double Team to the second level and the new system in the run game was %95 single blocks. You can't do that with Freshman starting on your o-line. I think we proved we could run the ball in 07 let's remember Ferg got 1100 yards and only played in 7 full games. Also we should have had 4 seniors starting on the o-line and for whatever reason it didn't happen. Brent, TJ, Sergio, Valmont, Anderson, even Harper should have all been back-Ups to Hawkeye, Chad Wiley, Jonathon Carter, Juan Williams, and Bess.
The second comment I want to make is Lee has nothing to do with what's happening in the weight room. Those kids are a product of finally having a Strength coach and a Good one at that. Those results are from having a full year under Coach Walthall. If you don't think that is diffence not General Lee then you are fooling yourself. 2 years under a good strength coach would even change you guys on this site into better looking athletes.
A&T is better already for just having consistancy in the weight room that's where games are won in the off-season and the puzzle is just about to be put together. Other teams were just bigger stronger and faster than us. But that should change now. They should definitely be 500 next year without a doubt.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Apr 8, 2009 8:50:51 GMT -5
I like what your saying coach205, but the problem wasn't run blocking. It was pass blocking.
How is that looking?
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Post by coach205 on Apr 8, 2009 9:18:49 GMT -5
I guess I should complete that statement with if you are running the ball well pass blocking is easier because defenses set up to stop the run first they are not rushing the passer as hard.
I would say after watching the spring game. The O-Line is doing exactly what I would think they would do and that is get better in their second year. Think about it they can only get better and better. Brent Walker Freshman, TJ Hearns Red Shirt Freshman, Jason Valmont Red Shirt Freshman, Sergio Glenn Redshirt Freshman, Alex Harper Prop Freshman. That's what we were working with last year. They are a season and spring practice older now they should naturally be a lot better. You add the right JUCO or transfer in there and the o-Line should be darn good. I know and respect Cennis he will do a great job. We are cut from the same mold when it comes to o-line play.
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Post by Bigboy on Apr 8, 2009 12:23:18 GMT -5
Coach205, I always thought that you should have remained our OC considering how much better the offence performed when you were running it. I know we did not win any games that year but you could see a distinct difference in the execution of plays compared to last season. Good luck at ASU!
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Post by Aggie Monster on Apr 8, 2009 21:51:11 GMT -5
I guess I should complete that statement with if you are running the ball well pass blocking is easier because defenses set up to stop the run first they are not rushing the passer as hard. I would say after watching the spring game. The O-Line is doing exactly what I would think they would do and that is get better in their second year. Think about it they can only get better and better. Brent Walker Freshman, TJ Hearns Red Shirt Freshman, Jason Valmont Red Shirt Freshman, Sergio Glenn Redshirt Freshman, Alex Harper Prop Freshman. That's what we were working with last year. They are a season and spring practice older now they should naturally be a lot better. You add the right JUCO or transfer in there and the o-Line should be darn good. I know and respect Cennis he will do a great job. We are cut from the same mold when it comes to o-line play. That's the easy answer. With age comes improvement and growth. I just hope they dont go from VERY bad to just bad. I trust your opinion though, so it sounds a little uplifting. The games I watched they were just VERY VERY bad, so I hope they have been hitting the weights like everyone seems to be saying they are now.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 8, 2009 22:43:27 GMT -5
I wished I shared the same optimism, but I can't get the memory of the Coastal Carolina game out of my head just yet. Coastal kept bringing an all-out blitz and our line kept parting like the Red Sea.
Granted, I wasn't at the Spring Game this year so maybe those guys really have improved over the past few months. We'll see later this summer.
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Post by coach205 on Apr 9, 2009 8:16:02 GMT -5
I wished I shared the same optimism, but I can't get the memory of the Coastal Carolina game out of my head just yet. Coastal kept bringing an all-out blitz and our line kept parting like the Red Sea. Granted, I wasn't at the Spring Game this year so maybe those guys really have improved over the past few months. We'll see later this summer. Ok Thrilla you say you can't get that out of your head. Well if that was as bad as you say. Red Sea all that couldn't handle all out blitz all that. The score was just 13-7 in 4th quarter and we had a chance to win in the 4th quarter. We driving to take the lead in the 4th quarter and it wasn't a sack that killed the drive it was a penalty and a screen to Mike Christian they sniffed out and tackled him for a 10 yard loss I think it was. They scored on the next drive with 5 minutes to go in the game to win 20-7. Don't sound like a total beat down to me.
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Post by coach205 on Apr 9, 2009 8:16:48 GMT -5
No player stays the same. If he has any pride about himself he will get better every year.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 9, 2009 8:33:46 GMT -5
Coach, you know as well as I do that the reason the game was close was because of Blue Death, not our O-line. I believe our only score in that game came on a defensive fumble recovery in the endzone.
The offense did absolutely nothing in that contest, except for a decent opening drive when we seemed to have Coastal on their toes. However after that, the Coastal coaches made a few adjustments and ... well, you were there; you know what happened.
But like I say, I have been wrong about 4 times in the last 10 or so years. Hopefully this will be a fifth one. I hope those players do return bigger, better and more skilled this summer. I hope they do not follow in the footsteps of Tim Bess and other linemen like that who did not work hard to get better every year.
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Post by aggiejazz on Apr 9, 2009 9:54:07 GMT -5
Only the coaches know how hard it is to coach kids at A&T. It takes an extraordinary coach to get kids to do right and do what they are suppose to do at A&T so you can win. It seems to me, you can take half the athletes from A&T and put them at a white college and they will perform better.
I have seen knucklehead athletes from my hometown in NC, all with poor academics stats, some go to A&T and some go to ECU. The athletes at A&T can't last more than a year due to academics while their peers, academic wise, will graduate from ECU in five years.
The difference is good organization and support. Good organization has very little to do with money and everything to do with very good leadership. Support at A&T will always be minimum. You pile lousy leadership on top of that and you will see poor execution on the field and court.
A lot of fans think it is easy or not as difficult to coach these kids as they watch from the stands. Under three different head football coaches I hear the same complaints from the coaches, "can't get kids to take their workout serious enough"; and "can't get the kids to retain what I tell them from day-to-day". Fobbs was not a good head coach but I think those complaints are the main reasons we see vanilla offenses and defenses from the Aggies.
Will we see a change this year? I do expect improvement over last year's performance but I don't expect a lot.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 9, 2009 10:15:34 GMT -5
So basically you are saying A&T is like a Bermuda Triangle for athletes. As soon as they enter, they get dumber and lazier.
Sorry, but I aint buying that.
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 9, 2009 10:28:11 GMT -5
Our overall student body was graduating around 37% less than two years ago. Why would it be hard to believe that we might have a history of not getting the best out of athletes? I know I posted our sordid history of always blaming the players when the only constant was us just a few months ago.
The problem isn’t vision. The problem is an inability to accept and then properly deal with reality.
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Post by coach205 on Apr 9, 2009 10:31:53 GMT -5
Coach, you know as well as I do that the reason the game was close was because of Blue Death, not our O-line. I believe our only score in that game came on a defensive fumble recovery in the endzone. The offense did absolutely nothing in that contest, except for a decent opening drive when we seemed to have Coastal on their toes. However after that, the Coastal coaches made a few adjustments and ... well, you were there; you know what happened. But like I say, I have been wrong about 4 times in the last 10 or so years. Hopefully this will be a fifth one. I hope those players do return bigger, better and more skilled this summer. I hope they do not follow in the footsteps of Tim Bess and other linemen like that who did not work hard to get better every year. Last I checked football was a TEAM sport. You can't blame one phase. Bess was the only one that didn't work. Finall halftime adjustments is a myth. You don't come up with new plays at halftime. You just understand when to call the ones you know after seeing the other team for a half. You don't change nothing at halftime you call the same plays you worked on all week. You just understand a little better of when to call them. I would love if I could to sit down and watch a game with you guys. You will see in the 2nd half every team is still running the same plays and defensed they ran in the 1st half. No spectacular new play was drawn up to win. Just better execution of the stuff you called in the 1st half.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 9, 2009 10:55:09 GMT -5
Halftime adjustments are a myth? Wow.
Are they a myth to just A&T coaches or to all other coaching staffs too? Cause that might explain a few things about some of our second half collapses.
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