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Post by aggielove on Feb 12, 2009 15:28:03 GMT -5
I don't think the recruiting situation with Lee & Berry is unethical, just unfortunate for MSU.
Better it happen for those young men now (decide to cut out on Morgan) than to do it later and either lose a year of eligibility or move down a division to get the chance to play.
The kids that were being recruited by MSU that followed Lee would likely have done it after being signed up at MSU.
Saying it's unethical is like saying working to secure up your new job while still collecting a paycheck at your current job is unethical. I think most of us have probably used company time in some way to look for a new job.
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Post by Aggie One on Feb 12, 2009 15:59:46 GMT -5
Nothing unethical here that I can see. I mean Lee has been a finalist for jobs before and Morgan knew it. He made no secret he was applying for the job here so probably Hill-Eley rolled the dice figuring A&T probably wouldn't hire him after what went down in 2005. We did and he sealed the deal with a lot of kids who probably were on the fence between the two schools. That's just a tough break. Hayes took all of our underclassmen when he was let go and made Rod Broadway an overnight sensation just a year later.
By Lee knowing that he would most likely be the head coach and the fact that he made good first impressions in his home visits with the parents also had to influence those decisions.
Lee is like a old time home spun country preacher - energetic, plain spoken, and extremely personable and that plays well with parents. He's also very smart in utilizing his all positives to offset any refinement issues he may have.
He's not polished by any stretch but he's extremely effective. I'll take a little rough around the edges and go 7-4 rather than having a media darling and go 0-11.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 12, 2009 16:18:17 GMT -5
So what if the kids made the choice? All of this unethical talk is foolishness. The fact is we offered jobs essentially to both coordinators from another school. What do you expect? The same happened in reverse when they left A&T. Geesh! even if it happened to us in reverse, that still doesn't make it right. but don't get me wrong, i'm happy that lee was able to bring in some good recruits for us. so i'm not complaining. but to act like there was nothing fishy going on is to turn a blind eye to the fairly obvious. as long as morgan state was footing the bill and paying his salary, recruiting for any other school for any reason whatsoever is unethical. it simply is. he shouldn't have recruited for a&t until he either resigned his morgan job and/or signed a contract with a&t. i don't think anyone is trying to throw coach lee under the bus. but in terms of right or wrong, you've got to be in denial to dispute the notion that what lee "apparently" did was not ethical... |
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Post by Maxell on Feb 12, 2009 16:29:08 GMT -5
as long as morgan state was footing the bill and paying his salary .. Do you know that to be true? |
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Feb 12, 2009 16:37:43 GMT -5
Ethics in sports is a first cousin to ethics in politics and business. Hey, a coach will take a touchdown or a point in basketball even when he knows it was not. No one thinks it is unethical or unsportsmanlike to get over, people consider it the normal way of doing business. Fortunately or unfortunately that's the way the world operates. I guess it depends on "whose ox is being gored".
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Post by Aggie E on Feb 12, 2009 17:46:52 GMT -5
Lee is like a old time home spun country preacher - energetic, plain spoken, and extremely personable and that plays well with parents. He's also very smart in utilizing his all positives to offset any refinement issues he may have. The bottom line is that it's still the kid's choice as to who he signs with....until Signing Day all bets are off. That just how the game is played. Lee clearly has that type of personality that makes parents feel comfortable. The kids that Lee pulled from Morgan were sold on him not Hill-Eley! |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 13, 2009 17:19:42 GMT -5
as long as morgan state was footing the bill and paying his salary .. Do you know that to be true? maxell, if you read all of my comment you'll note that i put the word "apparently" in quotes. of course i don't know that to be true and i've never indicated it to be. i carefully word what i type and nowhere will you find that i stated that lee is "guilty" of unethical conduct. i've used words like "if", "apparently", etc. in fact the statement above doesn't accuse him of unethical conduct either. the phrase "as long as" doesn't infer that morgan was or was not footing the bill. it only implies that "if" morgan was footing the bill... let's not read stuff into what i type if its not there... |
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Post by Maxell on Feb 13, 2009 19:22:45 GMT -5
Do you know that to be true? maxell, if you read all of my comment you'll note that i put the word "apparently" in quotes. of course i don't know that to be true and i've never indicated it to be. i carefully word what i type and nowhere will you find that i stated that lee is "guilty" of unethical conduct. i've used words like "if", "apparently", etc. in fact the statement above doesn't accuse him of unethical conduct either. the phrase "as long as" doesn't infer that morgan was or was not footing the bill. it only implies that "if" morgan was footing the bill... let's not read stuff into what i type if its not there... That's what implication is. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 15, 2009 8:38:30 GMT -5
maxell, if you read all of my comment you'll note that i put the word "apparently" in quotes. of course i don't know that to be true and i've never indicated it to be. i carefully word what i type and nowhere will you find that i stated that lee is "guilty" of unethical conduct. i've used words like "if", "apparently", etc. in fact the statement above doesn't accuse him of unethical conduct either. the phrase "as long as" doesn't infer that morgan was or was not footing the bill. it only implies that "if" morgan was footing the bill... let's not read stuff into what i type if its not there... That's what implication is. implying and accusing are two completely different things... |
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