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Post by planoaggie on Mar 5, 2024 6:33:34 GMT -5
The top 4 MBB schools are non-football schools. This is not that surprising given the amount of money they put into their MBB program and coaches. These schools keep winning the championship. Should we ever expect to win a CAA championship or get an NCAA bid since normally the CAA only gets 1 bid.
We need to stop comparing WBB performance against MBB because the men's path to a conference championship is much difficult due to the non-football schools. Coach Ross performance does not need to be compared to Coach Rob. Coach Ross long term goal should be to consistently crack the CAA MBB top 5 in my opinion. Short term goal is to
actually sign some talented players 6'10 or taller. We are loaded at guard spot so that can't be a priority even if we need to upgrade the position.
Coach Rob short term goal is to win the CAA WBB Championship and win a NCAA bid and game in my opinion.
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Post by A&T-roy on Mar 5, 2024 10:54:45 GMT -5
The top 4 MBB schools are non-football schools. This is not that surprising given the amount of money they put into their MBB program and coaches. These schools keep winning the championship. Should we ever expect to win a CAA championship or get an NCAA bid since normally the CAA only gets 1 bid. We need to stop comparing WBB performance against MBB because the men's path to a conference championship is much difficult due to the non-football schools. Coach Ross performance does not need to be compared to Coach Rob. Coach Ross long term goal should be to consistently crack the CAA MBB top 5 in my opinion. Short term goal is to actually sign some talented players 6'10 or taller. We are loaded at guard spot so that can't be a priority even if we need to upgrade the position. Coach Rob short term goal is to win the CAA WBB Championship and win a NCAA bid and game in my opinion. Yes, we should expect to win CAA ships & get NCAA bids...competing against non-football schools or not. And I'm 100% sure our leadership (Dr. Martin, Earl Hilton & Coach Ross) expect the same. As a matter of recent fact, Coach Ross got on the mic after our last men's home game and promised hanging a CAA ship banner. |
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Mar 5, 2024 11:18:22 GMT -5
PlanO quit making excuses.
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 5, 2024 12:12:10 GMT -5
PlanO quit making excuses. Not making excuses. Just keeping it real with my expectations and hope that others do as well. If you are not heavily investing financially in a sport it is hard to win a championship let alone compete at a high level. We invest way more in football than basketball so Coach Brown is under the gun way more than Coach Ross even though they both are rebuilding their respective program. These non-football schools are not going to lay down and give the championship trophy to the football schools. Facts are facts. They have own the MBB Championship and conference the past few years. |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 5, 2024 12:48:02 GMT -5
The top 4 MBB schools are non-football schools. This is not that surprising given the amount of money they put into their MBB program and coaches. These schools keep winning the championship. Should we ever expect to win a CAA championship or get an NCAA bid since normally the CAA only gets 1 bid. We need to stop comparing WBB performance against MBB because the men's path to a conference championship is much difficult due to the non-football schools. Coach Ross performance does not need to be compared to Coach Rob. Coach Ross long term goal should be to consistently crack the CAA MBB top 5 in my opinion. Short term goal is to actually sign some talented players 6'10 or taller. We are loaded at guard spot so that can't be a priority even if we need to upgrade the position. Coach Rob short term goal is to win the CAA WBB Championship and win a NCAA bid and game in my opinion. Yes, we should expect to win CAA ships & get NCAA bids...competing against non-football schools or not. And I'm 100% sure our leadership (Dr. Martin, Earl Hilton & Coach Ross) expect the same. As a matter of recent fact, Coach Ross got on the mic after our last men's home game and promised hanging a CAA ship banner. That is what the coach should say out loud. I am pretty sure he said that at his last CAA school he was HC. Ross is going to have to really out recruit these non-football schools with less money to win a championship. Now if the leadership has promises to pump more money in the MBB program to match those high goals then I am with you and coach all the way. I want a championship. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 5, 2024 15:50:41 GMT -5
just asking, but when was the last time that a football playing school won the mbb championship?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 5, 2024 16:05:58 GMT -5
found this info on the internet for what its worth. here are the caa men's basketball champions over the last 10 years. so planoaggie makes a plausible point. non-football playing schools won 8 out of the last 10 championships and the only football playing school that won a championship during that time was delaware who won it twice but is leaving the caa for the fbs level...
Year Champions Score Runner-up Tournament MVP Venue
2014 Delaware 75–74 William & Mary Jarvis Threatt, Delaware Baltimore Arena (Baltimore, MD)
2015 Northeastern 72–61 William & Mary Quincy Ford, Northeastern
2016 UNC Wilmington 80–73† Hofstra Chris Flemmings, UNCW
2017 UNC Wilmington 78–69 Charleston C. J. Bryce, UNCW North Charleston Coliseum (North Charleston, SC)
2018 Charleston 83–76† Northeastern Grant Riller, Charleston
2019 Northeastern 82–74 Hofstra Vasilije Pušica, Northeastern
2020 Hofstra 70–61 Northeastern Desure Buie, Hofstra Entertainment and Sports Arena (Washington, D.C.)
2021 Drexel 63–56 Elon Camren Wynter, Drexel Atlantic Union Bank Center (Harrisonburg, VA)[4]
2022 Delaware 59–55 UNC Wilmington Jyare Davis, Delaware Entertainment and Sports Arena (Washington, D.C.)
2023 Charleston 63–58 UNC Wilmington Ryan Larson, Charleston
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Post by Maxell on Mar 5, 2024 16:12:44 GMT -5
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 5, 2024 16:14:05 GMT -5
found this info on the internet for what its worth. here are the caa men's basketball champions over the last 10 years. so planoaggie makes a plausible point. non-football playing schools won 8 out of the last 10 championships and the only football playing school that won a championship during that time was delaware who won it twice but is leaving the caa for the fbs level... Year Champions Score Runner-up Tournament MVP Venue2014 Delaware 75–74 William & Mary Jarvis Threatt, Delaware Baltimore Arena (Baltimore, MD) 2015 Northeastern 72–61 William & Mary Quincy Ford, Northeastern 2016 UNC Wilmington 80–73† Hofstra Chris Flemmings, UNCW 2017 UNC Wilmington 78–69 Charleston C. J. Bryce, UNCW North Charleston Coliseum (North Charleston, SC) 2018 Charleston 83–76† Northeastern Grant Riller, Charleston 2019 Northeastern 82–74 Hofstra Vasilije Pušica, Northeastern 2020 Hofstra 70–61 Northeastern Desure Buie, Hofstra Entertainment and Sports Arena (Washington, D.C.) 2021 Drexel 63–56 Elon Camren Wynter, Drexel Atlantic Union Bank Center (Harrisonburg, VA)[4] 2022 Delaware 59–55 UNC Wilmington Jyare Davis, Delaware Entertainment and Sports Arena (Washington, D.C.) 2023 Charleston 63–58 UNC Wilmington Ryan Larson, Charleston wow, upon further review, not only did non-football playing schools win the last 8 out of 10 championships, but the "runner-ups" over the same period of time were also non-football playing schools 7 out of 10 times. so in other words, over the last 10 years, non-football playing schools made 15 appearances in the championship game while football playing schools made only 5 appearances. that also re-enforces planoaggie's point... |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 5, 2024 16:18:20 GMT -5
thanks, but i already found what i was looking for. however, this info also re-enforces planoaggie's point. and it also shows that our very own coach ross was the last head coach from a football playing school to win a regular season and tournament championship in men's basketball... |
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Post by marchingband1969 on Mar 5, 2024 16:59:32 GMT -5
The top 4 MBB schools are non-football schools. This is not that surprising given the amount of money they put into their MBB program and coaches. These schools keep winning the championship. Should we ever expect to win a CAA championship or get an NCAA bid since normally the CAA only gets 1 bid. We need to stop comparing WBB performance against MBB because the men's path to a conference championship is much difficult due to the non-football schools. Coach Ross performance does not need to be compared to Coach Rob. Coach Ross long term goal should be to consistently crack the CAA MBB top 5 in my opinion. Short term goal is to actually sign some talented players 6'10 or taller. We are loaded at guard spot so that can't be a priority even if we need to upgrade the position. Coach Rob short term goal is to win the CAA WBB Championship and win a NCAA bid and game in my opinion. Yes, we should expect to win CAA ships & get NCAA bids...competing against non-football schools or not. And I'm 100% sure our leadership (Dr. Martin, Earl Hilton & Coach Ross) expect the same. As a matter of recent fact, Coach Ross got on the mic after our last men's home game and promised hanging a CAA ship banner. I agree with you. With the right coaches recruiting and developing the players, we should be able to win conference championship. And that should be the coach's goal and our expectation. I'm not saying we win every season but we should be close every season. I think we have the right men's and women's basketball coach in place to do just that. Now they both have to continue to recruit and develop the talent. |
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Post by jbrob on Mar 5, 2024 23:15:58 GMT -5
Colleges that have football teams in the CAA.
Towson 11-7 18-13
Delaware 10-8 18-13
Stony Brook 10-8 17-14
Monmouth 10-8 17-14
Campbell 8-10 14-17
Elon 6-12 13-18
N.C. A&T 5-13 7-24
William & Mary 4-14 9-22
Hampton 3-15 8-23
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Post by aggiegrad97 on Mar 5, 2024 23:59:53 GMT -5
Colleges that have football teams in the CAA. Towson 11-7 18-13 Delaware 10-8 18-13 Stony Brook 10-8 17-14 Monmouth 10-8 17-14 Campbell 8-10 14-17 Elon 6-12 13-18 N.C. A&T 5-13 7-24 William & Mary 4-14 9-22 Hampton 3-15 8-23 The NC football playing teams getting beat like a drum in this conference, Jesus. VA too |
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Post by aggie94 on Mar 6, 2024 7:54:54 GMT -5
And Delaware's Coach in 2014 was.... Monte Ross. Let's see if he can work some more magic.
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Post by DECKS on Mar 6, 2024 8:18:55 GMT -5
I beleive if we can successfully deal with NIL/Transfer portal Coach Ross will win a CAA Championship....and it may not take very long.
If he gets all his key players back plus add a couple other pieces we may see this program step up next season!
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