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Post by oldschool on Nov 28, 2023 19:20:23 GMT -5
Exactly ,at this point it's not about your next choice ,it's about letting everybody , your current players ,your high school recruits,your prospective transfer portal hopefuls ,your booster club members ,students,alumni ,sponsors ,all invested parties know ,we are moving in a different direction immediately . BTW ,David Tepper did the right thing on firing Frank Reich ,but he doesn't get a pass IMO because he shouldn't have hired him in the first place .Steve Wilks should have been hired after taking over mid season and almost getting them in the playoffs despite giving away your main offensive threats in ,Chris McCaffrey and DJ Moore . I agree that they should have kept Wilks. And I was never a fan of trading unless the expectation was to win the division. But instead we are about to send the first overall pick to the Bears. Frank Reich got 70 mil between the Colts and Panthers to go sit at the crib. And don't get me started on David Tepper either , here is a short excerpt from an op-ed piece by Scott Fowler in today's Charlotte Observer. Panthers owner David Tepper fired another Carolina head coach Monday. But he didn’t fire the person who is most responsible for this long run of chaos at Bank of America Stadium: Himself. Tepper, a hedge-fund billionaire with no clue as to how to run a football team, fired head coach Frank Reich Monday after Carolina dropped to an NFL-worst 1-10 record on Sunday with a 17-10 loss to Tennessee.Read more at: www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article282364038.html#storylink=cpyMy feelings also ,I'm done with Tepper ,in addition to his mishandling of the team ,I'm pissed off at his other blunders since he has come to Charlotte .The failed attempt to build a headquarters and practice facility in Rock Hill S.C. ,and his other failure to build a youth soccer complex at the former Eastland Mall site .
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Post by planoaggie on Nov 28, 2023 20:06:11 GMT -5
Hope this meets yall's requirements... "Are you happy now, Gina?!?!?!" Yep I'm happy now ,it was also announced on the local news station . Good. Hopefully the more the word spreads the better the pool of candidates seeking the job and recruits that did not like our offense now reconsider.
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Post by crowntownaggie on Nov 29, 2023 14:00:10 GMT -5
Wouldn’t mind if they gave Pep Hamilton a call, he’s worked with some good QBs in the past. Luck & Herbert most notably. Just another brother who has been in a lot of tough situations (Orton & Grossman bears, 2022 Texans) and made the most out of them while having played a part in the early development of the two guys I mentioned as his most notable players. Even if he was only brought in to work with the QBs, another potential candidate who is at home rn.
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Post by DOOMS on Nov 29, 2023 14:03:42 GMT -5
I honestly want somebody who has worked wonders with shitty qbs and an ever rotating cast of zany players lol. Imagine what that person can do with actual talent.
I feel you on Pep on the one hand, but on the other hand, this man coached PROFESSIONALS. Like Monster said, we're not getting that level of qb or supporting cast every year.
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Post by crowntownaggie on Nov 29, 2023 14:05:26 GMT -5
He has some college experience, he was with Luck at Stanford too before reuniting with him in Indy. He also spent some time at Howard and another college, I understand what you mean about him not getting a Luck or Herbert here though.
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Post by DOOMS on Nov 29, 2023 15:56:20 GMT -5
He damn shawl wouldn't get two if the first one went down, lol.
Coincidentally enough, I remember Pep was supposed to be the next great thing after Jay Walker. In hindsight that was ridiculous, expecting him to follow an NFL qb. That's what I'm talm bout. Same coaches and everything but they fell way off until they got another qb in at the level of Jay Walker (Ted White). Then they fell way off again after White.
That being typed, if I was a power 5 I'd be on Pep in a heartbeat. I don't think he could help us given our situation and even more importantly I don't think we could help him. I can see him getting a top qb to come to us and that qb be out the door with no replacement after one year of Pep's tutelage.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 29, 2023 16:25:00 GMT -5
Wouldn’t mind if they gave Pep Hamilton a call, he’s worked with some good QBs in the past. Luck & Herbert most notably. Just another brother who has been in a lot of tough situations (Orton & Grossman bears, 2022 Texans) and made the most out of them while having played a part in the early development of the two guys I mentioned as his most notable players. Even if he was only brought in to work with the QBs, another potential candidate who is at home rn. Are you being serious? Why would Pep Hamilton want to come here?
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Post by crowntownaggie on Nov 29, 2023 16:26:32 GMT -5
Am I being serious about wanting him here, yes. Why would he come here, a job > no job. Will he, I doubt it. Would we try, further doubt.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 29, 2023 16:32:52 GMT -5
I dont think yall fully understand just how unattractive this football program is to most coaches right now, especially the one's who have other options.
You have a fractured fanbase, a chancellor who is about to retire, an athletic director who has been in witness protection for the last 3 months, a team that is losing top young talent almost every other day to the transfer portal, a first-time head coach who just went 1-10 in his debut season and the OC that you are replacing just got fired in less than one calendar year.
Why would an unemployed but still wealthy Pep Hamilton want to leave his comfortable couch to come here and deal with all that confusion?
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Post by crowntownaggie on Nov 29, 2023 16:43:44 GMT -5
Oh nah it’s very bad, one QB on the roster tells the story by itself but the rebuild has to start somewhere and you at least have to shoot your shot versus leaving a stone like that unturned. Other HBCUs have attracted former pro coaches/players while being down horrendous, why not us? I’d rather whoever is making the decision to aim high and have to settle for someone more realistic than to not. Pep took the XFL and Houston gigs despite plenty of uncertainty in those situations, you never know. I should admit my Charlotte bias in even dreaming of us getting Pep tbh.
Also it’s a wishlist, realistically I expect someone from D2 like Gibbs or Parker (VUU) but I really have no clue on who Brown knows or could bring in. Especially considering that his own job may not be that secure for all of 2022.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 29, 2023 16:46:02 GMT -5
Pep took the XFL and Houston gigs despite plenty of uncertainty in those situations, you never know. That's actually a good point. Shows that he is still really interested in coaching ball. But I think he views those opportunities as a pathway back to the NFL or the Power 5 world. Coming to A&T under these current circumstances would be a graveyard for a guy like Pep.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Nov 29, 2023 16:58:23 GMT -5
Pep took the XFL and Houston gigs despite plenty of uncertainty in those situations, you never know. That's actually a good point. Shows that he is still really interested in coaching ball. But I think he views those opportunities as a pathway back to the NFL or the Power 5 world. Coming to A&T under these current circumstances would be a graveyard for a guy like Pep. I don’t know of many HBCUs that aren’t coaching dead ends honestly. How many actually get jobs outside of the HBCU circle?
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Post by jbrob on Nov 29, 2023 18:02:58 GMT -5
I dont think yall fully understand just how unattractive this football program is to most coaches right now, especially the one's who have other options. You have a fractured fanbase, a chancellor who is about to retire, an athletic director who has been in witness protection for the last 3 months, a team that is losing top young talent almost every other day to the transfer portal, a first-time head coach who just went 1-10 in his debut season and the OC that you are replacing just got fired in less than one calendar year. Why would an unemployed but still wealthy Pep Hamilton want to leave his comfortable couch to come here and deal with all that confusion? Compared to what programs? Compared to what openings?
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Post by aggie30 on Nov 29, 2023 18:53:20 GMT -5
Give me a young energetic coach that’s coming from a very solid program. This person will also have a lot of connections to help with recruiting and also some players that will follow him to Aggie Land.
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Post by crowntownaggie on Nov 29, 2023 19:19:17 GMT -5
That's actually a good point. Shows that he is still really interested in coaching ball. But I think he views those opportunities as a pathway back to the NFL or the Power 5 world. Coming to A&T under these current circumstances would be a graveyard for a guy like Pep. I don’t know of many HBCUs that aren’t coaching dead ends honestly. How many actually get jobs outside of the HBCU circle? This does seem like a sad reality and lends credence to the question of why would Pep come here. He doesn’t have a job and moving into the HBCU cul-de-sac might seal his fate for good, I wasn’t thinking of it from that POV to be honest. Just how it could benefit us.
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