saabman
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Post by saabman on Aug 2, 2023 1:04:09 GMT -5
even if the new oc does that, its still not "ideal" cuz that means the oc has to "learn" our previous system. how in da hail can the oc do his job "effectively" if he himself has to "learn" another offense? so the players are coaching the coach instead of the coach coaching the players? honestly, i'd rather the players "learn" the oc's offense than the other way around. i think it would've worked better if the players were taught the new offense during spring practice and re-enforced during preseason training camp. the new oc trying to learn the old offense makes it difficult for me see how the oc can take command of an offense that he's "learning". i'd rather the players encounter that learning curve rather than the oc... Few things: - The OC should be more advanced in being able to learn offenses. - I'd rather have one person learning than 4. - I expect the basics are the same in terms of RPO offenses, which is what we ran in the practices I saw. You are correct "Basic RPO offensive systems are the same " even the Air Raid system is a Basic RPO system formation wise but they choose to be pass heavy and use larger splits by their offensive lineman. Like I said before the OC will put his own stamp on this offense from terminology to player position on the field . Anyone that thinks that a new OC with some years at the OC position ( even if he was an assistant OC) Will not use a previous coaches Playbook . As someone pointed out " The OC will adjust his system based on the availability of talent to fit what he is trying to do ,and using that old jump ball U system is not one of them those days are gone. I expect to see a more wide open run pass system that uses the whole field and the open seams..i.e Pitch and catch routes that will setup the deep ball ,more use of the TE,RB and FB in the passing game to move the ball down the field and to get those short yards but we will see π. If this is a new era in Aggie football why would we use the same material from the past. If a player cannot catch on to a new offensive system he has no business playing football at this level.Hell UAB learned a completely new system in fall camp because Trent Dilfer used the spring to evaluate the talent that He had on hand so he would know what areas to recruit. So don't tell me it can't be done. I have faith in the intelligence of our players
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Post by A&T-roy on Aug 2, 2023 10:54:47 GMT -5
Few things: - The OC should be more advanced in being able to learn offenses. - I'd rather have one person learning than 4. - I expect the basics are the same in terms of RPO offenses, which is what we ran in the practices I saw. You are correct "Basic RPO offensive systems are the same " even the Air Raid system is a Basic RPO system formation wise but they choose to be pass heavy and use larger splits by their offensive lineman. Like I said before the OC will put his own stamp on this offense from terminology to player position on the field . Anyone that thinks that a new OC with some years at the OC position ( even if he was an assistant OC) Will not use a previous coaches Playbook . As someone pointed out " The OC will adjust his system based on the availability of talent to fit what he is trying to do ,and using that old jump ball U system is not one of them those days are gone. I expect to see a more wide open run pass system that uses the whole field and the open seams..i.e Pitch and catch routes that will setup the deep ball ,more use of the TE,RB and FB in the passing game to move the ball down the field and to get those short yards but we will see π. If this is a new era in Aggie football why would we use the same material from the past. If a player cannot catch on to a new offensive system he has no business playing football at this level.Hell UAB learned a completely new system in fall camp because Trent Dilfer used the spring to evaluate the talent that He had on hand so he would know what areas to recruit. So don't tell me it can't be done. I have faith in the intelligence of our players Seems you didn't read or remember one of my previous comments.
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Post by ATLaggie on Aug 2, 2023 11:08:47 GMT -5
Has Hooker improved that much or are you all being bias?
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Post by aggiegrad97 on Aug 2, 2023 12:14:00 GMT -5
Has Hooker improved that much or are you all being bias? I genuinely find myself wondering what people know about his development that the rest of us donβt get to see, and Iβm truly open to it if heβs a legit D1 starting QB talent.
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Post by A&T-roy on Aug 2, 2023 14:50:22 GMT -5
Has Hooker improved that much or are you all being bias? My position is based on what I've seen of Hooker in relation to Yeager in both game & practice action. Yeager has not shown the accuracy I've seen from Hooker.
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Post by aggie2039 on Aug 2, 2023 15:00:19 GMT -5
Has Hooker improved that much or are you all being bias? I genuinely find myself wondering what people know about his development that the rest of us donβt get to see, and Iβm truly open to it if heβs a legit D1 starting QB talent. Itβs Bias
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Post by theenemy on Aug 2, 2023 15:34:15 GMT -5
Definitely bias
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 2, 2023 16:36:26 GMT -5
not bias one bit. the limited number of snaps that hooker got last season, he looked better than yeager "by far". and he looked better than brickhandler as well, though in all fairness to brickhandler, brickhandler had far less snaps than hooker due to injury. also, hooker is "definitely" the better runner compared to yeager or brickhandler, he's "clearly" faster than both of them...
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Post by aggie2039 on Aug 2, 2023 16:48:39 GMT -5
2022 Season Stats 5 Brickhandler , Eli Games - 2 QBR - 143.40 Completions - 6 Attempts - 10 Int - 0 Comp % - 60.00 % Yards - 60 TDS - 1 Longest pass - 21 Avg yards per game - 30.00 11 Hooker, Alston Games - 6 QBR - 56.62 Completions - 4 Attempts - 13 Int - 0 Comp % - 30.77 % Yards - 40 TDs - 0 Longest pass - 22 Avg yardage per game - 6.67 ncataggies.com/sports/football/stats/2022Definitely bias!!!
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 2, 2023 16:58:38 GMT -5
stats don't show how much a qb knows or in this case "don't know" the "playbook". stats don't show the number of "busted plays"...
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Post by bseballaggie on Aug 2, 2023 17:08:56 GMT -5
2022 Season Stats 5 Brickhandler , Eli Games - 2 QBR - 143.40 Completions - 6 Attempts - 10 Int - 0 Comp % - 60.00 % Yards - 60 TDS - 1 Longest pass - 21 Avg yards per game - 30.00 11 Hooker, Alston Games - 6 QBR - 56.62 Completions - 4 Attempts - 13 Int - 0 Comp % - 30.77 % Yards - 40 TDs - 0 Longest pass - 22 Avg yardage per game - 6.67 ncataggies.com/sports/football/stats/2022Definitely bias!!!
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Post by aggie2039 on Aug 2, 2023 17:12:18 GMT -5
People lie, numbers donβt ππππ
These stats show who doesnβt know the playbook πππ
Brickhandler stats were vs Duke πππ
Hooker passing stats were vs Edward Waters and Charleston Southern π€·πΎββοΈ
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Post by ATLaggie on Aug 2, 2023 18:30:10 GMT -5
not bias one bit. the limited number of snaps that hooker got last season, he looked better than yeager "by far". and he looked better than brickhandler as well, though in all fairness to brickhandler, brickhandler had far less snaps than hooker due to injury. also, hooker is "definitely" the better runner compared to yeager or brickhandler, he's "clearly" faster than both of them... You're talking about a QB being a better runner for what? Whose the better passer? Did he not leave Dudley because he wasn't going to be the starting QB. Now you all are saying he is #2 on the depth chart at A&T. C'mon.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 2, 2023 20:21:42 GMT -5
not bias one bit. the limited number of snaps that hooker got last season, he looked better than yeager "by far". and he looked better than brickhandler as well, though in all fairness to brickhandler, brickhandler had far less snaps than hooker due to injury. also, hooker is "definitely" the better runner compared to yeager or brickhandler, he's "clearly" faster than both of them... You're talking about a QB being a better runner for what? Whose the better passer? Did he not leave Dudley because he wasn't going to be the starting QB. Now you all are saying he is #2 on the depth chart at A&T. C'mon. first of all, i only speak for "myself". so i don't know who you're talkin' bout relative to "you all". and, i don't care why hooker left dudley or any other place for that matter. it absolutely has "nothing" to do with my judgment of him. i mean, why should i care one iota about why he left dudley? its "meaningless" as far as i'm concerned. my judgment of hooker is solely based on what i've "seen" of him in an aggie uniform with my own eyes, and the same goes for brickhandler and yeager. and yes, without question hooker is "by far" the better runner compared to brickhandler and yeager. hooker is also very "confident" in himself and carries himself that way when in the game which is a very important "leadership" attribute that all qb's should have. he also "stands tall" in the pocket on pass plays, even when under "heavy pressure". can't say that for the other two, albeit i have not seen enuf of brickhandler due to his early season injury. and yes, hooker is a good passer, especially "when under pressure" and that "when under pressure" part sets him apart from what i've seen from brickhandler and yeager. last season i saw hooker "accurately" complete a pass while standing in the pocket despite having a hard "blitzing" defender inches from his face who actually "drilled" hooker after the pass. hooker "knew" he was gonna get smashed, but still accurately completed the pass. it shows tremendous "composure" and extraordinary "courage" to do that, many other qb's would've had "happy feet" and took off to run. so not only do i like hooker's skills, but i also like his "leadership" abilities and his "confidence". also, contrary to your accusation, i "never" once said that hooker should be #2 on our depth chart. instead, i said that he and brickhandler should compete for the " starting job" during training camp. "never, ever" said he should be #2...
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Post by A&T-roy on Aug 2, 2023 21:27:31 GMT -5
not bias one bit. the limited number of snaps that hooker got last season, he looked better than yeager "by far". and he looked better than brickhandler as well, though in all fairness to brickhandler, brickhandler had far less snaps than hooker due to injury. also, hooker is "definitely" the better runner compared to yeager or brickhandler, he's "clearly" faster than both of them... Ease up on Hook looking better than Brick. No sir.
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