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Post by tony on Aug 31, 2021 16:27:45 GMT -5
Don't miss my point...sure you are playing to the crowd at all times. But, it wasn't like the crowd was that into what Southern played versus A&T. The observation was they were louder which they are supposed to be since they are bigger. But, "I feel for you" by Chaka Kahn is not a bad musical choice. That's the problem with the new school they don't respect the old school or pay enough homage to old school music. They rather listen to rap songs that has sampled the old school music. It's crazy if you ask me... I get it, but what would you say is the percentage of old school vs new school music in A&Ts book? A&T did great with the show and song selections at the last Charlotte BOTB. Keep in mind we both agreed that everything was fine according to MEAC battle standards. Being in the battle with SU, JSU, Tnsu etc in SWAC land just changed some of the stand battle expectations. NSU tends to do well with adjusting between the different styles. I thought the Charlotte stands selection and execution were horrible. We may have gotten away with it against Central or Howard. NSU, Cookman, or FAMU would have killed us. Old school / New school has nothing to do with it. Southern shut it down with 40 year old Bohemian Rhapsody. Nobody cared Skin I'm In was 20 years old when we were running people out the stadium with it. It's all about arrangement and execution. I feel for you doesn't have enough dynamics or raw power to be as effective as it could be. The beginning is nice but doesnt project as much as it could. That kind of song works okay as a downfield when you have the rest of the show to contrast with it, but not so much in the stands, especially when round 2 gets cut.
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 31, 2021 16:32:18 GMT -5
I love our studio sound and 4K production, but this gives an outsiders perspective of how we sounded against Southern (my favorite band in the SWAC) in the stands. If you read the comments, the unbiased posters they gave us a lot a credit for our sound, and some even gave us the nod which says a lot coming from SWAC fans. Keep in mind, Southern lost it's best arranger to Texas Southern this year. I think over time you will see the impact of that move.
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Post by B&GMM 80 on Aug 31, 2021 16:38:13 GMT -5
Do you realize how many people that were in Houston that were over the age of 40 that marched in their college's marching band? It was a lot of old school bandheads there...remember that is marchingband country. From Atlanta to Houston is band country, that's why the competition was moved from Charlotte. How old is As We Lay...30+ years old but, it took house when they were on the field. Don't make excuses for the new school when there are none. In my opinion, we (A&T)tend to play by the rules while SWAC bands don't care about rules, especially when it comes to a battle. So, what I mean is, after A&T performed they were escorted to their buses to return to the hotel when in actuality they were supposed to go back in the stands and play again. Well, Ruff being the gentleman he is went on and left. On the flipside, Southern, Tenn State, Jackson and Talladega's band directors would have been pissed because, they didn't get a chance to play their last song. That's the mindset that they have...to the average "Joe", it's no big deal, it's just one song. To them, that one song means everything. That's the difference between SWAC and MEAC. Thanks! for clearing that up! because I WAS LIKE, Where is the Machine! Did they LEAVE! WOW! NSU thought about and decided to Leave too.......... it was confusing when a Band was EXITING after Performance! Jackson, PERFORM and never return after their Performance as well.....THE BOOM Fans were expecting so much more from JSU! NSU & NCA&TSU Field PERFORMANCE were on point, THE STAND BATTLE LEFT A LOT TO BE DESIRED! The Acoustic not good, THAT VENUE LARGE! ENJOYED HOUSTON! just wish they would "MASKED UP" MORE!!
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Post by tony on Aug 31, 2021 16:39:36 GMT -5
I love our studio sound and 4K production, but this gives an outsiders perspective of how we sounded against Southern (my favorite band in the SWAC) in the stands. If you read the comments, the unbiased posters they gave us a lot a credit for our sound, and some even gave us the nod which says a lot coming from SWAC fans. We didn't do a bad job at all. Keep in mind people are saying we and Southern both did well. 1st world problems... Its just that I felt like we demolished them on the field. A different approach, even staying within our style, and we could have done the same in the stands.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 31, 2021 16:48:38 GMT -5
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Post by Maxell on Aug 31, 2021 19:21:19 GMT -5
We sound so much better with a stronger trombone section!
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Post by neal on Aug 31, 2021 19:52:58 GMT -5
In my opinion, we (A&T)tend to play by the rules while SWAC bands don't care about rules, especially when it comes to a battle. So, what I mean is, after A&T performed they were escorted to their buses to return to the hotel when in actuality they were supposed to go back in the stands and play again. Well, Ruff being the gentleman he is went on and left. On the flipside, Southern, Tenn State, Jackson and Talladega's band directors would have been pissed because, they didn't get a chance to play their last song. That's the mindset that they have...to the average "Joe", it's no big deal, it's just one song. To them, that one song means everything. That's the difference between SWAC and MEAC. Thanks! for clearing that up! because I WAS LIKE, Where is the Machine! Did they LEAVE! WOW! NSU thought about and decided to Leave too.......... it was confusing when a Band was EXITING after Performance! Jackson, PERFORM and never return after their Performance as well.....THE BOOM Fans were expecting so much more from JSU! NSU & NCA&TSU Field PERFORMANCE were on point, THE STAND BATTLE LEFT A LOT TO BE DESIRED! The Acoustic not good, THAT VENUE LARGE! ENJOYED HOUSTON! just wish they would "MASKED UP" MORE!! The format is two songs and out. It was the same rule in 2019 when I attended.
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Post by ohsixrain on Aug 31, 2021 19:58:12 GMT -5
Thanks! for clearing that up! because I WAS LIKE, Where is the Machine! Did they LEAVE! WOW! NSU thought about and decided to Leave too.......... it was confusing when a Band was EXITING after Performance! Jackson, PERFORM and never return after their Performance as well.....THE BOOM Fans were expecting so much more from JSU! NSU & NCA&TSU Field PERFORMANCE were on point, THE STAND BATTLE LEFT A LOT TO BE DESIRED! The Acoustic not good, THAT VENUE LARGE! ENJOYED HOUSTON! just wish they would "MASKED UP" MORE!! The format is two songs and out. It was the same rule in 2019 when I attended. That's the format but, the didn't give A&T a second round due to advertisements on the jumbotron. So, they were waiting their turn and it never came so it was time for them to go on the field and once they came off they went straight to the buses. It's okay...no sweat, probably an oversight but, all in all the event was a success. That's all you can ask.
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Post by neal on Aug 31, 2021 20:02:14 GMT -5
The format is two songs and out. It was the same rule in 2019 when I attended. That's the format but, the didn't give A&T a second round due to advertisements on the jumbotron. So, they were waiting their turn and it never came so it was time for them to go on the field and once they came off they went straight to the buses. It's okay...no sweat, probably an oversight but, all in all the event was a success. That's all you can ask. Yeah, he should complain to them about that situation. The BOTB made some mistakes this year behind the scenes.
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Post by zai on Sept 2, 2021 11:47:53 GMT -5
Now would be a great time to drop donation links with all the attention the band is getting because of their silk arrangement.
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Post by Maxell on Sept 27, 2021 15:04:48 GMT -5
We sound so much better with a stronger trombone section! I counted twenty(20) trombones that marched Saturday.
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Post by tony on Sept 29, 2021 22:10:05 GMT -5
We sound so much better with a stronger trombone section! I counted twenty(20) trombones that marched Saturday. I'm on the fence on this. This is definitely the best sounding section we've had in awhile, but they still get buried at times. On songs where balance is a priority the ratios don't really matter but if everyone is going for power you need about 2 trombones for every baritone to keep everything balanced. We have that ratio, but we don't have baritones anymore - the euphoniums we replaced them with are WAY louder. I'm thinking it may be time to switch to large bore trombones to help with that balance. I'm fairly sure Edward Waters, SCSU, NSU, and maybe others use those, and the sound is really nice. It's not about band size at all - EWC was tiny but they still sound good. www.yamaha.com/en/musical_instrument_guide/trombone/selection/selection003.html
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Post by Maxell on Sept 30, 2021 1:15:25 GMT -5
I counted twenty(20) trombones that marched Saturday. I'm on the fence on this. This is definitely the best sounding section we've had in awhile, but they still get buried at times. On songs where balance is a priority the ratios don't really matter but if everyone is going for power you need about 2 trombones for every baritone to keep everything balanced. We have that ratio, but we don't have baritones anymore - the euphoniums we replaced them with are WAY louder. I'm thinking it may be time to switch to large bore trombones to help with that balance. I'm fairly sure Edward Waters, SCSU, NSU, and maybe others use those, and the sound is really nice. It's not about band size at all - EWC was tiny but they still sound good. www.yamaha.com/en/musical_instrument_guide/trombone/selection/selection003.htmlI did notice the same thing regarding how loud and broader sounding the "baritones" were and didn't put two and two together. We had a couple of large bore horns back in the day and those joints were golden. They were personal horns back then and the brothers took care of them like they were new born babies.
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Post by Blankman on Oct 1, 2021 7:22:33 GMT -5
This video is like 4 years old. It’s from either 2017 or 2018.
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