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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 16, 2019 14:32:35 GMT -5
That's it. Last time we sold out a non Homecoming or NCCU/ WSSU game was 99. We played FAMU. Game was for Meac title. The 100 came up for the 1st time in 20 years I was at that game. We did not sell it out. I believe the official attendance was around 18,000. i was there too, looked "soldout" to me. was one of the few times that aggie stadium was truly "rocking"! i don't think i've ever seen our crowd more "fired up" than at that game...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 16, 2019 14:33:30 GMT -5
I think Broadway would be proud of our scheduling. He scheduled that d2 cupcake because thats where he thought our program was at the time and we neeeded that game. I dont think he would schedule them now. broadway scheduled at least one d2 team "every year" he coached at a&t. we were well beyond "needing an easy win" by year seven of coach broadway's tenure, yet we still had a d2 team on our schedule. mind you, we had already won or tied 3 meac championships by then... i'll never forget the year that cohen got injured early in the season and he completely missed our game at howard that year. guess who saved the day during cohen's absence? yep, "true freshman" marquell cartwright stepped in and didn't miss a beat, rushed for almost 140 yards against howard. however, cartwright had the prior experience of playing "extended minutes" against no other than "chowan" earlier in that season which gave him the "experience" and just as importantly, the "confidence" to lineup against howard in a very important conference game. i feel far more comfortable about trusting a "true freshman" in an important conference game if i know that he's played extended minutes in a college game before. same for fowler. i'd feel far more comfortable throwing fowler to the wolves if i know that he's played extended minutes in a real college football game before...
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Post by saabman on Jul 16, 2019 15:34:48 GMT -5
Agree with NSS. Don't see the benefit of playing D2 games. An effective rotation strategy will get players the experience needed. broadway didn't do it that way and he built the program that we now have... OSA Broadway's situation was entirely different than what coach Washington has. Broadway came in on a short recruiting season having to rebuild a program from the ground up . He had to remove and change the attitude, mentality and confidence level of players that were used to losing. Basically he had no choice but to play division 2 Programs to get his Players to the Mental Confidence levels that they needed to change a long with there attitude towards there approach to the game during the season and off-season . Broadway had the know with all to understand that he had to play some weaker programs to get that confidence and mental toughness back and it worked . Now Coach Washington has a different situation now that A&T is an establish FCS football power Regionally and Nationally . Coach Washington has to figure out how to get his 3rd and 4th string players on the field whether it is a cupcake game or not . That is how Good to Great programs are ran . I look at it this way if I were Washington if I played a D-2 program it would have to be a fairly decent to good or possibly great D-2 program if that could not happen I would look to schedule an lower level FCS to FBS program . We all wanted A&T to be recognize again as a football power . Well this comes with the territory . Also in my opinion as someone that has played RB at all 3 levels if you are on a team that has great athletes on both sides of the ball that will prepare you for games ; it is just up to you to perform when your number is called . RB is one of the few positions on the football field where team practices really gets you ready because if you are 2,3 or 4 you are getting snaps on the second team or the scout team and if you know the playbook and your assignments you are ready . Hell a hit is a hit whether you were in practice or in a game . For the RB it's all about the Playbook and your Assignment competency the rest is just muscle memory.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 16, 2019 16:50:35 GMT -5
broadway didn't do it that way and he built the program that we now have... OSA Broadway's situation was entirely different than what coach Washington has. Broadway came in on a short recruiting season having to rebuild a program from the ground up . He had to remove and change the attitude, mentality and confidence level of players that were used to losing. Basically he had no choice but to play division 2 Programs to get his Players to the Mental Confidence levels that they needed to change a long with there attitude towards there approach to the game during the season and off-season . Broadway had the know with all to understand that he had to play some weaker programs to get that confidence and mental toughness back and it worked . Now Coach Washington has a different situation now that A&T is an establish FCS football power Regionally and Nationally . Coach Washington has to figure out how to get his 3rd and 4th string players on the field whether it is a cupcake game or not . That is how Good to Great programs are ran . I look at it this way if I were Washington if I played a D-2 program it would have to be a fairly decent to good or possibly great D-2 program if that could not happen I would look to schedule an lower level FCS to FBS program . We all wanted A&T to be recognize again as a football power . Well this comes with the territory . Also in my opinion as someone that has played RB at all 3 levels if you are on a team that has great athletes on both sides of the ball that will prepare you for games ; it is just up to you to perform when your number is called . RB is one of the few positions on the football field where team practices really gets you ready because if you are 2,3 or 4 you are getting snaps on the second team or the scout team and if you know the playbook and your assignments you are ready . Hell a hit is a hit whether you were in practice or in a game . For the RB it's all about the Playbook and your Assignment competency the rest is just muscle memory. saab, i hear ya. but it ain't about getting hit. its about gaining valuable "experience". there's a reason why employers place a high "premium" on experienced employees because the more experience you have, the better you can perform your job. the same applies to football players. even the alabama's and clemson's of the world play "cupcake" games for the same reason. like i previously mentioned, broadway played a d2 "every year" that he coached at a&t. even years 5, 6, and 7 when he tied or outright won meac championships. last year, coach washington's first year as head coach, was the first year we didn't play a d2 team since broadway first arrived. sorry, i believe what coach broadway and many other coaches believe. why do you think duke plays an fcs team like us and nccu almost every year? my approach is to prepare my backups to step in for a starter down the road and i want them to have extended minutes of experience in a harmless college game before i throw them to the wolves...
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Post by saabman on Jul 16, 2019 17:12:41 GMT -5
OSA Broadway's situation was entirely different than what coach Washington has. Broadway came in on a short recruiting season having to rebuild a program from the ground up . He had to remove and change the attitude, mentality and confidence level of players that were used to losing. Basically he had no choice but to play division 2 Programs to get his Players to the Mental Confidence levels that they needed to change a long with there attitude towards there approach to the game during the season and off-season . Broadway had the know with all to understand that he had to play some weaker programs to get that confidence and mental toughness back and it worked . Now Coach Washington has a different situation now that A&T is an establish FCS football power Regionally and Nationally . Coach Washington has to figure out how to get his 3rd and 4th string players on the field whether it is a cupcake game or not . That is how Good to Great programs are ran . I look at it this way if I were Washington if I played a D-2 program it would have to be a fairly decent to good or possibly great D-2 program if that could not happen I would look to schedule an lower level FCS to FBS program . We all wanted A&T to be recognize again as a football power . Well this comes with the territory . Also in my opinion as someone that has played RB at all 3 levels if you are on a team that has great athletes on both sides of the ball that will prepare you for games ; it is just up to you to perform when your number is called . RB is one of the few positions on the football field where team practices really gets you ready because if you are 2,3 or 4 you are getting snaps on the second team or the scout team and if you know the playbook and your assignments you are ready . Hell a hit is a hit whether you were in practice or in a game . For the RB it's all about the Playbook and your Assignment competency the rest is just muscle memory. saab, i hear ya. but it ain't about getting hit. its about gaining valuable "experience". there's a reason why employers place a high "premium" on experienced employees because the more experience you have, the better you can perform your job. the same applies to football players. even the alabama's and clemson's of the world play "cupcake" games for the same reason. like i previously mentioned, broadway played a d2 "every year" that he coached at a&t. even years 5, 6, and 7 when he tied or outright won meac championships. last year, coach washington's first year as head coach, was the first year we didn't play a d2 team since broadway first arrived. sorry, i believe what coach broadway and many other coaches believe. why do you think duke plays an fcs team like us and nccu almost every year? my approach is to prepare my backups to step in for a starter down the road and i want them to have extended minutes of experience in a harmless college game before i throw them to the wolves... I will agree to disagree . Clemson and USC have no choice but to play and FCS programs that are located in there state they just get to choose which one . When it comes to Alabama they have never really played a tough OOC schedule even before Saban got there . All coaches have there own way of coaching . Broadway had his way and and Coach Washington has his . Some of us must get use to the fact that Coach Washington is his own man and will Coach and handle his teams scheduling his own way . As you pointed out to me one time long ago . Coach Broadway and the AD knows better then we do . I ask you to except your own advice that you gave to me when this cupcake game with University of Virginia Lynchburg came up the second time .
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 16, 2019 17:45:06 GMT -5
saab, i hear ya. but it ain't about getting hit. its about gaining valuable "experience". there's a reason why employers place a high "premium" on experienced employees because the more experience you have, the better you can perform your job. the same applies to football players. even the alabama's and clemson's of the world play "cupcake" games for the same reason. like i previously mentioned, broadway played a d2 "every year" that he coached at a&t. even years 5, 6, and 7 when he tied or outright won meac championships. last year, coach washington's first year as head coach, was the first year we didn't play a d2 team since broadway first arrived. sorry, i believe what coach broadway and many other coaches believe. why do you think duke plays an fcs team like us and nccu almost every year? my approach is to prepare my backups to step in for a starter down the road and i want them to have extended minutes of experience in a harmless college game before i throw them to the wolves... I will agree to disagree . Clemson and USC have no choice but to play and FCS programs that are located in there state they just get to choose which one . When it comes to Alabama they have never really played a tough OOC schedule even before Saban got there . All coaches have there own way of coaching . Broadway had his way and and Coach Washington has his . Some of us must get use to the fact that Coach Washington is his own man and will Coach and handle his teams scheduling his own way . As you pointed out to me one time long ago . Coach Broadway and the AD knows better then we do . I ask you to except your own advice that you gave to me when this cupcake game with University of Virginia Lynchburg came up the second time . hey, i have no decision making powers over coach washington or ad hilton. i'm just stating my opinion, that's all...
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Post by saabman on Jul 16, 2019 19:00:12 GMT -5
I will agree to disagree . Clemson and USC have no choice but to play and FCS programs that are located in there state they just get to choose which one . When it comes to Alabama they have never really played a tough OOC schedule even before Saban got there . All coaches have there own way of coaching . Broadway had his way and and Coach Washington has his . Some of us must get use to the fact that Coach Washington is his own man and will Coach and handle his teams scheduling his own way . As you pointed out to me one time long ago . Coach Broadway and the AD knows better then we do . I ask you to except your own advice that you gave to me when this cupcake game with University of Virginia Lynchburg came up the second time . hey, i have no decision making powers over coach washington or ad hilton. i'm just stating my opinion, that's all... That is why I consider you as a true friend because of that fact . That's what true fans / Friends do .
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Post by The Professor on Jul 16, 2019 20:02:50 GMT -5
OSA Broadway's situation was entirely different than what coach Washington has. Broadway came in on a short recruiting season having to rebuild a program from the ground up . He had to remove and change the attitude, mentality and confidence level of players that were used to losing. Basically he had no choice but to play division 2 Programs to get his Players to the Mental Confidence levels that they needed to change a long with there attitude towards there approach to the game during the season and off-season . Broadway had the know with all to understand that he had to play some weaker programs to get that confidence and mental toughness back and it worked . Now Coach Washington has a different situation now that A&T is an establish FCS football power Regionally and Nationally . Coach Washington has to figure out how to get his 3rd and 4th string players on the field whether it is a cupcake game or not . That is how Good to Great programs are ran . I look at it this way if I were Washington if I played a D-2 program it would have to be a fairly decent to good or possibly great D-2 program if that could not happen I would look to schedule an lower level FCS to FBS program . We all wanted A&T to be recognize again as a football power . Well this comes with the territory . Also in my opinion as someone that has played RB at all 3 levels if you are on a team that has great athletes on both sides of the ball that will prepare you for games ; it is just up to you to perform when your number is called . RB is one of the few positions on the football field where team practices really gets you ready because if you are 2,3 or 4 you are getting snaps on the second team or the scout team and if you know the playbook and your assignments you are ready . Hell a hit is a hit whether you were in practice or in a game . For the RB it's all about the Playbook and your Assignment competency the rest is just muscle memory. saab, i hear ya. but it ain't about getting hit. its about gaining valuable "experience". there's a reason why employers place a high "premium" on experienced employees because the more experience you have, the better you can perform your job. the same applies to football players. even the alabama's and clemson's of the world play "cupcake" games for the same reason. like i previously mentioned, broadway played a d2 "every year" that he coached at a&t. even years 5, 6, and 7 when he tied or outright won meac championships. last year, coach washington's first year as head coach, was the first year we didn't play a d2 team since broadway first arrived. sorry, i believe what coach broadway and many other coaches believe. why do you think duke plays an fcs team like us and nccu almost every year? my approach is to prepare my backups to step in for a starter down the road and i want them to have extended minutes of experience in a harmless college game before i throw them to the wolves... Duke and FBS schools play FCS games to help them get to 6 wins so they can be bowl eligible. And the majority of them have no shot at the playoff
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Post by The Professor on Jul 16, 2019 20:05:13 GMT -5
That's it. Last time we sold out a non Homecoming or NCCU/ WSSU game was 99. We played FAMU. Game was for Meac title. The 100 came up for the 1st time in 20 years I was at that game. We did not sell it out. I believe the official attendance was around 18,000. FAMU media guide has it a few short of 20k www.famuathletics.com/fls/25300/Stats/Football/1999/NCATFAMU.HTM
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Jul 17, 2019 10:46:15 GMT -5
Since we did not play a cupcake D2 last year maybe Coach Broadway had planned to move away from his annual cupcake game as you usually begin working on a schedule a year or so out. I am sure there was some degree of negotiations and discussions about last years schdule before Coach Broadway retired. But make no mistake Coach Washington has clearly stated he wants to be a factor in FCS football outside of the MEAC / celebration bowl. The schedule in front of us allows you to accomplish that with 1 FBS and 2 out of conference non HBCU FCS games
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Post by trues on Jul 17, 2019 11:03:19 GMT -5
OSA Broadway's situation was entirely different than what coach Washington has. Broadway came in on a short recruiting season having to rebuild a program from the ground up . He had to remove and change the attitude, mentality and confidence level of players that were used to losing. Basically he had no choice but to play division 2 Programs to get his Players to the Mental Confidence levels that they needed to change a long with there attitude towards there approach to the game during the season and off-season . Broadway had the know with all to understand that he had to play some weaker programs to get that confidence and mental toughness back and it worked . Now Coach Washington has a different situation now that A&T is an establish FCS football power Regionally and Nationally . Coach Washington has to figure out how to get his 3rd and 4th string players on the field whether it is a cupcake game or not . That is how Good to Great programs are ran . I look at it this way if I were Washington if I played a D-2 program it would have to be a fairly decent to good or possibly great D-2 program if that could not happen I would look to schedule an lower level FCS to FBS program . We all wanted A&T to be recognize again as a football power . Well this comes with the territory . Also in my opinion as someone that has played RB at all 3 levels if you are on a team that has great athletes on both sides of the ball that will prepare you for games ; it is just up to you to perform when your number is called . RB is one of the few positions on the football field where team practices really gets you ready because if you are 2,3 or 4 you are getting snaps on the second team or the scout team and if you know the playbook and your assignments you are ready . Hell a hit is a hit whether you were in practice or in a game . For the RB it's all about the Playbook and your Assignment competency the rest is just muscle memory. saab, i hear ya. but it ain't about getting hit. its about gaining valuable "experience". there's a reason why employers place a high "premium" on experienced employees because the more experience you have, the better you can perform your job. the same applies to football players. even the alabama's and clemson's of the world play "cupcake" games for the same reason. like i previously mentioned, broadway played a d2 "every year" that he coached at a&t. even years 5, 6, and 7 when he tied or outright won meac championships. last year, coach washington's first year as head coach, was the first year we didn't play a d2 team since broadway first arrived. sorry, i believe what coach broadway and many other coaches believe. why do you think duke plays an fcs team like us and nccu almost every year? my approach is to prepare my backups to step in for a starter down the road and i want them to have extended minutes of experience in a harmless college game before i throw them to the wolves... I have to agree with oldschoolaggie on this one. I remember Broadway stating if Alabama can schedule lower Tier2 school why can't we. Going into the 2017-18 we had a good team that year yet we still play Mars hill D2.
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Post by aggieclt on Jul 17, 2019 11:30:36 GMT -5
In the best interest of our university along with the fact that we are living in the NOW, do we really want to play D-II schools while we've clearly benefited from the "Celebration Bowl or bust" era?
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Post by The Professor on Jul 17, 2019 13:37:38 GMT -5
saab, i hear ya. but it ain't about getting hit. its about gaining valuable "experience". there's a reason why employers place a high "premium" on experienced employees because the more experience you have, the better you can perform your job. the same applies to football players. even the alabama's and clemson's of the world play "cupcake" games for the same reason. like i previously mentioned, broadway played a d2 "every year" that he coached at a&t. even years 5, 6, and 7 when he tied or outright won meac championships. last year, coach washington's first year as head coach, was the first year we didn't play a d2 team since broadway first arrived. sorry, i believe what coach broadway and many other coaches believe. why do you think duke plays an fcs team like us and nccu almost every year? my approach is to prepare my backups to step in for a starter down the road and i want them to have extended minutes of experience in a harmless college game before i throw them to the wolves... I have to agree with oldschoolaggie on this one. I remember Broadway stating if Alabama can schedule lower Tier2 school why can't we. Going into the 2017-18 we had a good team that year yet we still play Mars hill D2. Broadway isn't our coach anymore. Washington has said he wants to be a power in FCS
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 17, 2019 13:43:25 GMT -5
all i know is that i'm not comfortable with the thought of ifedi or fowler as our starting qb because neither of them have extended playing experience. the "physical" talent is there for both of them, but "game savy" is not. the only way to gain "game savy" is by experience.
God forbid, if carter goes down before either of them gain adequate experience, i will chew my nails off...
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Post by saabman on Jul 17, 2019 16:56:20 GMT -5
I have to agree with oldschoolaggie on this one. I remember Broadway stating if Alabama can schedule lower Tier2 school why can't we. Going into the 2017-18 we had a good team that year yet we still play Mars hill D2. Broadway isn't our coach anymore. Washington has said he wants to be a power in FCS I'm agreeing with the Professor on this one . As I stated before " Some of us have to get used to the fact that Broadway is not the HC and that Coach Washington is the HC ,and will Coach and schedule his own way " . I can understand that playing a cupcake D-2 could be good for getting 3,4, players experience but having been on on the other side I feel that if you know your plays and your assignments it is not that hard to perform when your number is called that's what quality players do . I remember my freshman year at A&T we played Elizabeth City my number was called and I had two catches from Lynn Rutherford one of 15 and the other for 25 that is when Grooms said something to me that put my transfer in motion . But the point is I had never worked with the first team or second team but I knew my playbook and assignment and stepped up that all I'm saying
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