WSSU renew rivalry NCCU but what about A&T

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Link WSSU football will renew its rivalry with N.C. Central in 2020. But what about N.C. A&T?






Winston-Salem State’s football schedule is set for this fall, but the 2020 schedule is shaping up nicely thanks to a game in Durham against N.C. Central.

WSSU and N.C. Central haven’t played football since 2010, but that will change next year thanks to a one-year agreement between the two programs with the game scheduled for Sept. 12, 2020. The contract calls for the game to be in Durham, and there’s a chance the two teams will also play in 2021 and 2022.

“Right now, we only have the one-year contract, but that could change,” said George Knox, the interim athletics director for WSSU. “We are certainly excited about this opportunity because they are a rival that goes back to the early days of the CIAA.”

Dr. Ingrid Wicker McCree, the athletics director at N.C. Central, is looking forward to the game.

“The Rams and Eagles have not played each other in football since 2010, so I know both enthusiastic fan bases will be energized for this in-state clash,” McCree said.

WSSU will receive $50,000 with a chance to make more depending on how many tickets are sold.

“We’ll actually get a chance to sell our allotment of tickets and can benefit from selling those tickets,” Knox said about playing the Eagles, who compete in the MEAC and are in the Football Championship Subdivision.
Knox says he’s been in conversations with other schools about future schedules but hasn’t talked with officials at N.C. A&T. The Aggies went 10-2 last season on their way to winning the MEAC championship and the Celebration Bowl.

The Rams and Aggies haven’t played since 2010 when the Rams won 21-14 in Greensboro. The Aggies lead the all-time series 37-12.

Despite the two schools being separated by about 25 miles, there appears to be nothing on the horizon in terms of a possible game.

“I would love to schedule a football game with A&T because that’s one of our natural rivals, and there’s a long history of the two schools playing each other,” Knox said.

The last time WSSU played N.C. Central and N.C. A&T in the same season was in 2010, when WSSU decided to not move into the MEAC. During their transition period to move up to Division I, WSSU played N.C. Central and N.C. A&T on a regular basis. The school decided to stay in Division II and rejoin the CIAA.

“We have three nonconference games a year and we want to make those games enticing for our fans and alumni,” Knox said. “We’ll continue to look ahead and see what’s best for us as we schedule future games.”

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Jul 10, 2019 14:44:52 GMT -5 trues said:

Winston-Salem State’s football schedule is set for this fall, but the 2020 schedule is shaping up nicely thanks to a game in Durham against N.C. Central.

WSSU and N.C. Central haven’t played football since 2010, but that will change next year thanks to a one-year agreement between the two programs with the game scheduled for Sept. 12, 2020. The contract calls for the game to be in Durham, and there’s a chance the two teams will also play in 2021 and 2022.

“Right now, we only have the one-year contract, but that could change,” said George Knox, the interim athletics director for WSSU. “We are certainly excited about this opportunity because they are a rival that goes back to the early days of the CIAA.”

Dr. Ingrid Wicker McCree, the athletics director at N.C. Central, is looking forward to the game.

“The Rams and Eagles have not played each other in football since 2010, so I know both enthusiastic fan bases will be energized for this in-state clash,” McCree said.

WSSU will receive $50,000 with a chance to make more depending on how many tickets are sold.

“We’ll actually get a chance to sell our allotment of tickets and can benefit from selling those tickets,” Knox said about playing the Eagles, who compete in the MEAC and are in the Football Championship Subdivision.


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WSSU football will renew its rivalry with N.C. Central in 2020. But what about N.C. A&T?

WSSU will receive $50,000 with a chance to make more depending on how many tickets are sold.

If we sold this game out giving WSSU $50k plus is great. I am not sure A&T would agree with giving them allotted amount of tickets.


I would give them $100k that's it. If we sold out 18k seats sold at $35 a seat would give us $630,000.

[Aggie Monster]

When you guys do math on the WSSU game yall always forget that a good portion of people in the stadium for THIS have already paid. Season ticket holders and the students. It's not 18K paying customers we would get for this game. It's a lot, but not 18K. If I had to guess I would say 12K. And before you numbers crunchers come in and dawg my number. Yeah, I'm already admitting it could be 13K or 14K. But it aint 18K PAYING people there just because it's WSSU. And you also cant use the $35/ticket number either because paying students would be half that.

So our take home is way less than the 665,000 that some of us are just multiplying $35 by 19K people. Yeah, we will probably make a little more on parking and concessions, but at full price you might get $315,000 and another $70,000 from students. So all that has to be factored in to what you are paying WSSU. Not athletics is suppose to operate on a $0 profit, so it really doesn't matter as long as we dont go in the red. Its all about a better product and entertainment for the season for me.

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Jul 10, 2019 15:02:31 GMT -5 Aggie Monster said:

When you guys do math on the WSSU game yall always forget that a good portion of people in the stadium for THIS have already paid. Season ticket holders and the students. Its not 18K paying customer we would get for this game. Its a lot, but not 18K. If I had to guess I would say 12K. And before you numbers crunchers come in and dawg my number. Yeah, I'm already admitting it could be 13K or 14K. But it aint 18K paying people there just because its WSSU.

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That's true but you act like the season holder ticket sales money is not part of the gate recipes. It still is. A&T just happen to get that money up front before the season start. It still part of the ticket sales in the grand scheme.

[Aggie Monster]

Jul 10, 2019 15:23:01 GMT -5 trues said:

Jul 10, 2019 15:02:31 GMT -5 Aggie Monster said:

When you guys do math on the WSSU game yall always forget that a good portion of people in the stadium for THIS have already paid. Season ticket holders and the students. Its not 18K paying customer we would get for this game. Its a lot, but not 18K. If I had to guess I would say 12K. And before you numbers crunchers come in and dawg my number. Yeah, I'm already admitting it could be 13K or 14K. But it aint 18K paying people there just because its WSSU.

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That's true but you act like the season holder ticket sales money is not part of the gate recipes. It still is. A&T just happen to get that money up front before the season start. It still part of the ticket sales in the grand scheme.

What I'm saying is they get that money whether WSSU is on the schedule or not. Now the real question is does having that game on the schedule actually influence the number of season ticket holders? you tight with the ticket office. Ask them what the season ticket numbers are for the last 5 years?

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Thats true plus I did not factor in the students. But my math said 14k at $35 is 490K.

Also its all relative playing this game vs a Charleston Southern is going always payout better.

[Aggie Monster]

Find out whats the season ticket holder number this year. You should at least be able to find out by calling and asking how many season tickets are left right now? And then saying, how many total are there? You used to be able to see it by just going to buy some, but now the online system selects the best available for you and doesn't show you the exact seat. i do know that all the seats in Sections U and V are sold out. How many people is that?

[Aggie One]

Used to be 5,000 for those 2 large reserved sections before the Sky Box. Approximately 4,700 now.

[The Professor]

The WSSU ship has sailed

[marchingband1969]

Jul 13, 2019 14:46:25 GMT -5 The Professor said:

The WSSU ship has sailed

It may sail back as soon as NCCU realizes that playing WSSU doesn't put enough butts in the stadium to offset that $50,000 fee. I expect the first year will be fine but once the buzzards whip da azz the thrill will be gone for the fans.

[The Professor]

Jul 13, 2019 15:00:02 GMT -5 marchingband1969 said:

Jul 13, 2019 14:46:25 GMT -5 The Professor said:

The WSSU ship has sailed

It may sail back as soon as NCCU realizes that playing WSSU doesn't put enough butts in the stadium to offset that $50,000 fee. I expect the first year will be fine but once the buzzards whip da azz the thrill will be gone for the fans.

Lol nah. We are trying to be a national power. We cant play D2s anymore.

And yes that 50k is alot

[aggierattler]

I would probably pay them $65K a game in a 2-game contract in Aggie Stadium on Labor Day Weekend...but nothing beyond that.

[oleschoolaggie]

i could live with offering them $65k if we play them labor day weekend because that game would "easily" sellout, but i don't see the buzzards compensating for that $50k they're paying wssu. the buzzards will not sellout their game with wssu, won't even be close...

[saabman]

Jul 10, 2019 15:37:02 GMT -5 Aggie Monster said:

Find out whats the season ticket holder number this year. You should at least be able to find out by calling and asking how many seaso ton tickets are left right now? And then saying, how many total are there? You used to be able to see it by just going to buy some, but now the online system selects the best available for you and doesn't show you the exact seat. i do know that all the seats in Sections U and V are sold out. How many people is that?

I have a question . Ok we already know that the Season ticket holders and Students are accounted for right ? So what is the ratio in numbers of actual paying fans/customers ? Is it broken down adults , I'D high schoolers and middle schoolers , paying customers with a college ID , paying employee discounts , senior citizens discounts and Military discounts if any . If you had a Pie Chart or graft how would it look . If A&T had a system set up to chart all of the variables then would it not be easier to estimate the amount you would pay out to a program like WSSU to come into Aggie Stadium . Now on the flip side of this game ; schools like WSSU have nothing to lose if they get beat but A&T has a lot on the line even if the game is a close win Optics wise . Your right back to the CB or bust . If you don't make it to the CB your season is basically over because a D-2 program almost upset or best you and if they beat you the CB Championship if A&T wins that , who is really the HBCU Champion . So the other part of the question I have is ; Is it really worth it playing WSSU .

[oleschoolaggie]

Jul 10, 2019 15:02:31 GMT -5 Aggie Monster said:

When you guys do math on the WSSU game yall always forget that a good portion of people in the stadium for THIS have already paid. Season ticket holders and the students. It's not 18K paying customers we would get for this game. It's a lot, but not 18K. If I had to guess I would say 12K. And before you numbers crunchers come in and dawg my number. Yeah, I'm already admitting it could be 13K or 14K. But it aint 18K PAYING people there just because it's WSSU. And you also cant use the $35/ticket number either because paying students would be half that.

So our take home is way less than the 665,000 that some of us are just multiplying $35 by 19K people. Yeah, we will probably make a little more on parking and concessions, but at full price you might get $315,000 and another $70,000 from students. So all that has to be factored in to what you are paying WSSU. Not athletics is suppose to operate on a $0 profit, so it really doesn't matter as long as we dont go in the red. Its all about a better product and entertainment for the season for me.

if i'm not mistaken, i believe 4xl told us a good number of years ago that we normally "net" (after deducting all overhead expenses) approximately $150k to $175k when we sellout aggie stadium. it might be somewhat different now because we've probably raised our ticket prices since that time...