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Post by saabman on Apr 7, 2019 9:03:09 GMT -5
Fowlers slow decision making criticism concerns me, he has been in the system two years and he’s struggling with with when and where to pull the trigger gives me pause, film study should have greatly reduced that flaw, backing up a Hall of Fame QB should have reduced that flaw, this gives me pause. The only thing that can reduce Fowler slow decision making is playing time . You can look at film all day but until you see it real time then and only then do you under stand . Fowler should have played more last year but we didn't have any blowouts so he never saw much of anything in real time
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Post by saabman on Apr 7, 2019 9:05:24 GMT -5
Fowlers slow decision making criticism concerns me, he has been in the system two years and he’s struggling with with when and where to pull the trigger gives me pause, film study should have greatly reduced that flaw, backing up a Hall of Fame QB should have reduced that flaw, this gives me pause. What concerns me is the fact that we don’t have a dedicated quarterbacks coach. Our QB play took off after we hired a dedicated QB coach, there is something to be said about having a coach focusing on the QBs and their growth and development 100 percent of the time🤷🏾♂️. QB is the most important position on the field and it’s one of the only ones without a dedicated position coach. The OC is the QB coach like on most teams
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Post by aggie2039 on Apr 7, 2019 9:31:27 GMT -5
What concerns me is the fact that we don’t have a dedicated quarterbacks coach. Our QB play took off after we hired a dedicated QB coach, there is something to be said about having a coach focusing on the QBs and their growth and development 100 percent of the time🤷🏾♂️. QB is the most important position on the field and it’s one of the only ones without a dedicated position coach. The OC is the QB coach like on most teams Doesn’t mean it is right in our situation...again Broadway hires a dedicated quarterback coach for a reason! We aren’t getting polished quarterbacks out of high school so we need to invest in dedicated quarterback coach.
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 7, 2019 9:47:59 GMT -5
I'm betting Fowler's an extremely intelligent and analytical individual. That'll slow you down on the athletic field. It'll also make you rich when you get out into the real world. He was done a serious disservice by not being allowed to play and make an error or two in my opinion. If he's as intelligent and analytical as I'm believing he is then he would make an error and learn from it. As far as having a dedicated qb coach, here's a small sample of schools that have a qb coach/oc combined into one: UNC (Phil Longo): goheels.com/staff.aspx?staff=3091 JMU (Shane Montgomery): jmusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2945&path=footballUGA (James Coley): georgiadogs.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2593&path=footballMorgan State (Travis Manger): morganstatebears.com/coaches.aspx?rc=976&path=footEastern Washington (Ian Shoemaker): goeags.com/coaches.aspx?rc=268&path=footballUC Davis (Tim Plough): ucdavisaggies.com/coaches.aspx?rc=646&path=footballSo it's not like when Dee Todd got on here talkin bout it was common for head coaches to also be their own coordinators and it was easily disproven and only proved she hadn't done any homework (yes I'm STILL bitter). If it works for us to the tune of a 10-2 record then I trust the coaching staff to keep making it work. I totally trust Sam's decision making as far as the coaching staff and I think it's commendable that he's held such an accomplished staff together after last season. I'm also not so sure you go out and hire a position coach because one player isn't picking up things quite as quickly as you'd like.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 11:06:34 GMT -5
I'm betting Fowler's an extremely intelligent and analytical individual. That'll slow you down on the athletic field. It'll also make you rich when you get out into the real world. He was done a serious disservice by not being allowed to play and make an error or two in my opinion. If he's as intelligent and analytical as I'm believing he is then he would make an error and learn from it. As far as having a dedicated qb coach, here's a small sample of schools that have a qb coach/oc combined into one: UNC (Phil Longo): goheels.com/staff.aspx?staff=3091 JMU (Shane Montgomery): jmusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2945&path=footballUGA (James Coley): georgiadogs.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2593&path=footballMorgan State (Travis Manger): morganstatebears.com/coaches.aspx?rc=976&path=footEastern Washington (Ian Shoemaker): goeags.com/coaches.aspx?rc=268&path=footballUC Davis (Tim Plough): ucdavisaggies.com/coaches.aspx?rc=646&path=footballSo it's not like when Dee Todd got on here talkin bout it was common for head coaches to also be their own coordinators and it was easily disproven and only proved she hadn't done any homework (yes I'm STILL bitter). If it works for us to the tune of a 10-2 record then I trust the coaching staff to keep making it work. I totally trust Sam's decision making as far as the coaching staff and I think it's commendable that he's held such an accomplished staff together after last season. I'm also not so sure you go out and hire a position coach because one player isn't picking up things quite as quickly as you'd like. Not to mention Coach Barnette has been working extensively with the QBs.
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 7, 2019 11:19:34 GMT -5
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Post by bseballaggie on Apr 7, 2019 11:25:23 GMT -5
Fowlers slow decision making criticism concerns me, he has been in the system two years and he’s struggling with with when and where to pull the trigger gives me pause, film study should have greatly reduced that flaw, backing up a Hall of Fame QB should have reduced that flaw, this gives me pause. The only thing that can reduce Fowler slow decision making is playing time . You can look at film all day but until you see it real time then and only then do you under stand . Fowler should have played more last year but we didn't have any blowouts so he never saw much of anything in real time So explain Ifedi's ability to read and react. Practice is real time, the old adage is you play the way you practice.
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Post by saabman on Apr 7, 2019 12:11:33 GMT -5
The OC is the QB coach like on most teams Doesn’t mean it is right in our situation... again Broadway hires a dedicated quarterback coach for a reason! We aren’t getting polished quarterbacks out of high school so we need to invest in dedicated quarterback coach. Broadways QB coach was also his OC
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Post by saabman on Apr 7, 2019 12:42:06 GMT -5
The only thing that can reduce Fowler slow decision making is playing time . You can look at film all day but until you see it real time then and only then do you under stand . Fowler should have played more last year but we didn't have any blowouts so he never saw much of anything in real time So explain Ifedi's ability to read and react. Practice is real time, the old adage is you play the way you practice. Players are like people some have the ability to grasp information and react and you have those that are thinkers and have to analyze information and then react Fowler : is more of a packet passing QB a thinker which most packet passers are . Ifedi's reacts to action quicker because he dose not have to analyze situations he reacts and takes what the situation gives him That maybe the reason that Ifedi is a head of Fowler . So I take it Fowler was the QB that had the pick 6 ? The old adage Practice is real time, the old adage is you play the way you practice
It's true but what it dose not say is you have to have snaps in practice and you then have to play So if you never get to play what you learned in practice is for not: also Game speed is a big difference compared to practice speed
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Post by Aggie One on Apr 7, 2019 12:57:42 GMT -5
No that assumption would be wrong. The pick 6 interception was thrown by the fourth string QB. It was the only interception thrown on the day by any of the QBs.
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Post by aggie2039 on Apr 7, 2019 13:02:55 GMT -5
Doesn’t mean it is right in our situation... again Broadway hires a dedicated quarterback coach for a reason! We aren’t getting polished quarterbacks out of high school so we need to invest in dedicated quarterback coach. Broadways QB coach was also his OC Not true...the old OC was the WR coach too. Barnett was only the QBs coach under Broadway. Last year was Barnett first year as OC Chris Barnette became the Aggies quarterbacks coach in 2015. The position has seen tremendous success since Barnette’s arrival. Lamar Raynard earned the 2017 MEAC Offensive Player of the Year.....from his bio
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 7, 2019 13:04:05 GMT -5
Doesn’t mean it is right in our situation... again Broadway hires a dedicated quarterback coach for a reason! We aren’t getting polished quarterbacks out of high school so we need to invest in dedicated quarterback coach. Broadways QB coach was also his OC Actually Broadway hired Barnette as a dedicated qb coach in 2015. I think prior to that he had combined offensive coordinator/qb coaches. I remember Joe Pizzo was oc/qb coach when Broadway first came aboard. When Pizzo got tossed Rickey Bustle was oc/qb coach until Broadway hired Barnette as solely qb coach. So Broadway tried it both ways. Hester was hired solely as wr coach and then got the oc job by default when Broadway fired Bustle. I suspect if Broadway was still coach he also would have made Barnette oc/qb coach.
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Post by bseballaggie on Apr 7, 2019 13:23:32 GMT -5
So explain Ifedi's ability to read and react. Practice is real time, the old adage is you play the way you practice. Players are like people some have the ability to grasp information and react and you have those that are thinkers and have to analyze information and then react Fowler : is more of a packet passing QB a thinker which most packet passers are . Ifedi's reacts to action quicker because he dose not have to analyze situations he reacts and takes what the situation gives him That maybe the reason that Ifedi is a head of Fowler . So I take it Fowler was the QB that had the pick 6 ? The old adage Practice is real time, the old adage is you play the way you practice
It's true but what it dose not say is you have to have snaps in practice and you then have to play So if you never get to play what you learned in practice is for not: also Game speed is a big difference compared to practice speed I get what your are saying Saab but film is were the analytical mind would excel, because you can rewind and play over and over, MCcain is analytical, he credits film as his advantage.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Apr 7, 2019 21:58:59 GMT -5
The only thing that can reduce Fowler slow decision making is playing time . You can look at film all day but until you see it real time then and only then do you under stand . Fowler should have played more last year but we didn't have any blowouts so he never saw much of anything in real time So explain Ifedi's ability to read and react. Practice is real time, the old adage is you play the way you practice. Ifedi’s ability to scramble probably works to his advantage I think the game can be much harder for a pocket passer that has to read the def, no your off and do it all in a fairly confined space
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Post by saabman on Apr 7, 2019 22:38:16 GMT -5
Players are like people some have the ability to grasp information and react and you have those that are thinkers and have to analyze information and then react Fowler : is more of a packet passing QB a thinker which most packet passers are . Ifedi's reacts to action quicker because he dose not have to analyze situations he reacts and takes what the situation gives him That maybe the reason that Ifedi is a head of Fowler . So I take it Fowler was the QB that had the pick 6 ? The old adage Practice is real time, the old adage is you play the way you practice
It's true but what it dose not say is you have to have snaps in practice and you then have to play So if you never get to play what you learned in practice is for not: also Game speed is a big difference compared to practice speed I get what your are saying Saab but film is were the analytical mind would excel, because you can rewind and play over and over, MCcain is analytical, he credits film as his advantage. I can see your point . I'm not saying that film study is not important . You study film to pickup tendencies on both sides of the ball and also to evaluate players . It's a lot easier for defensive players because most offenses are creatures of habit . So it is a little easier to analyze offenses intentions . Now on the other hand defenses have a tendency to change their coverage on the Fly . But in the end it all boils down to getting on the field. I feel that Fowler is only doing what most 3 and 4 string players do he is pressing ,the learning curve for a quarterback far far exceeds any position on the field .
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