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Post by VA's Finest on Jul 18, 2020 10:45:03 GMT -5
The same could be said for an FCS institution that is prepared with a plan to handle COVID-19, but its conference decides to shutdown fall sports. I would assume it didn't require unanimous decision to shutdown if input from ADs and presidents was taken into consideration.
Whose to say T didn't agree with the decision to shutdown, just as we weren't on board for the CB.
If we can properly/safely field a football team then we should be allowed to. We would be playing against other teams whe wouls most likely have strict plans in place for their program's as well.
There are those who know they can do this safely and those who know they can not.
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Post by bluehaze on Jul 19, 2020 7:12:38 GMT -5
Looks like Maxell and VA's Finest have valid points Here is the FAMU AD's comments on the cancellation: tallahassee.com"Yesterday was probably one of the single toughest days I've ever had in the industry to have that conversation with our kids..." Gosha told the Democrat. "It was heartbreaking yesterday to deliver that news, to understand that we had done everything possible that we possibly could. It was a punch in the gut for a lot of our student-athletes." Gosha said that the athletic department was optimistic about the possibility of the season being played on time as recently as early this week. However, as FCS conferences continued to delay or cancel their 2020 seasons -- the MEAC became the third to do so Thursday -- the path to a timely return quickly became unlikely. Part of what made the frustration even more significant for Gosha was that he felt FAMU had done everything in its power to safely allow student-athletes to begin returning to campus in preparation for the upcoming season. He couldn't say the same for some of the other schools in the MEAC, the conference FAMU is leaving for the SWAC after the 2020-21 academic year. "Here at FAMU, I think that we made significant strides as an institution to be prepared to play. I would say that we were in a very good posture. Some of our peers within the league, not so much," Gosha said. "When you're considering competing against those peers and their challenges of not being able to protect their student-athletes, that created a challenge... It would have been grossly irresponsible of us based off of the information that we did know regarding our conference peers, regarding the population that we serve to try to force it."
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Jul 19, 2020 8:44:51 GMT -5
Why doesn't famu's AD just declare famu an independent for their last year in the MEAC, and play as many games as possible in Florida, the Epicenter of the Virus. Every school in the country can claim that they have the safest campus in the nation. They all have done what they think is their due diligence to mitigate the Virus. It is still with us. Most of the businesses in the country have made that claim, and the Virus is on a more deadlier rampage. What a dilemma.
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Post by saabman on Jul 19, 2020 10:55:43 GMT -5
Why doesn't famu's AD just declare famu an independent for their last year in the MEAC, and play as many games as possible in Florida, the Epicenter of the Virus. Every school in the country can claim that they have the safest campus in the nation. They all have done what they think is their due diligence to mitigate the Virus. It is still with us. Most of the businesses in the country have made that claim, and the Virus is on a more deadlier rampage. What a dilemma. The MEAC would have to release FAMU from there MEAC conference contractual obligations for them to go independent . Also what revenues are you going to generate by playing a season or even a modified season that will off set your expenditures spent . Why throw away good money like that .
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 19, 2020 11:00:43 GMT -5
Why doesn't famu's AD just declare famu an independent for their last year in the MEAC, and play as many games as possible in Florida, the Epicenter of the Virus. Every school in the country can claim that they have the safest campus in the nation. They all have done what they think is their due diligence to mitigate the Virus. It is still with us. Most of the businesses in the country have made that claim, and the Virus is on a more deadlier rampage. What a dilemma. The MEAC would have to release FAMU from there MEAC conference contractual obligations for them to go independent . Also what revenues are you going to generate by playing a season or even a modified season that will off set your expenditures spent . Why throw away good money like that . They are losing more money by not having a season
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 19, 2020 11:01:44 GMT -5
Looks like Maxell and VA's Finest have valid points Here is the FAMU AD's comments on the cancellation: tallahassee.com"Yesterday was probably one of the single toughest days I've ever had in the industry to have that conversation with our kids..." Gosha told the Democrat. "It was heartbreaking yesterday to deliver that news, to understand that we had done everything possible that we possibly could. It was a punch in the gut for a lot of our student-athletes." Gosha said that the athletic department was optimistic about the possibility of the season being played on time as recently as early this week. However, as FCS conferences continued to delay or cancel their 2020 seasons -- the MEAC became the third to do so Thursday -- the path to a timely return quickly became unlikely. Part of what made the frustration even more significant for Gosha was that he felt FAMU had done everything in its power to safely allow student-athletes to begin returning to campus in preparation for the upcoming season. He couldn't say the same for some of the other schools in the MEAC, the conference FAMU is leaving for the SWAC after the 2020-21 academic year. "Here at FAMU, I think that we made significant strides as an institution to be prepared to play. I would say that we were in a very good posture. Some of our peers within the league, not so much," Gosha said. "When you're considering competing against those peers and their challenges of not being able to protect their student-athletes, that created a challenge... It would have been grossly irresponsible of us based off of the information that we did know regarding our conference peers, regarding the population that we serve to try to force it." Lack of preparation and resources i think we’ve heard that somewhere else too🧐
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Post by Maxell on Jul 19, 2020 15:03:07 GMT -5
www.postandcourier.com/sports/citadel-football-opener-with-caa-foe-elon-c-of-c-fall-sports-are-still-on/article_80825c86-c851-11ea-8a49-d7a0be49b791.htmlElon’s Blank said the CAA is “is recognizing that each institution should have the opportunity to do what is best for student-athlete.” “As long as the NCAA and the FCS continue to support championship tournaments on their normal schedules, we believe Elon student-athletes should have the right to compete,” Blank said. “We are making every effort to participate in all of our fall sports as long as we feel certain we can do so in a manner that prioritizes the health and safety of all. Should the pandemic situation change or the NCAA and/or FCS championships shift, we will re-evaluate our position appropriately for our fall sports.” FCS power James Madison of the CAA also will explore playing an independent schedule of at least eight games this fall.
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Post by saabman on Jul 19, 2020 17:41:47 GMT -5
The MEAC would have to release FAMU from there MEAC conference contractual obligations for them to go independent . Also what revenues are you going to generate by playing a season or even a modified season that will off set your expenditures spent . Why throw away good money like that . They are losing more money by not having a season How so ??
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 19, 2020 18:16:44 GMT -5
They are losing more money by not having a season How so ?? As it sits right now they are paying salaries and scholarships with no revenue coming in. Even with a modified setup they could have made money off the OBC sponsorship's and ticket sales, season ticket sales, stadium sponsorship's and even the UCF guarantee game. Even if testing cost the school $100K - $200K they would still end up less in the red than by not having any revenue.
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Post by aggierattler on Jul 19, 2020 18:31:37 GMT -5
As it sits right now they are paying salaries and scholarships with no revenue coming in. Even with a modified setup they could have made money off the OBC sponsorship's and ticket sales, season ticket sales, stadium sponsorship's and even the UCF guarantee game. Even if testing cost the school $100K - $200K they would still end up less in the red than by not having any revenue. But in not playing, they (as are we) are saving money by not spending money, too.
Again, I hate to disagree with you, but we would be absolute fools to play college football during a pandemic that is currently killing hundreds of thousands of people. That's just my opinion and carries no more weight than anyone else's opinion.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jul 19, 2020 18:44:41 GMT -5
As it sits right now they are paying salaries and scholarships with no revenue coming in. Even with a modified setup they could have made money off the OBC sponsorship's and ticket sales, season ticket sales, stadium sponsorship's and even the UCF guarantee game. Even if testing cost the school $100K - $200K they would still end up less in the red than by not having any revenue. But in not playing, they (as are we) are saving money by not spending money, too.
Again, I hate to disagree with you, but we would be absolute fools to play college football during a pandemic that is currently killing hundreds of thousands of people. That's just my opinion and carries no more weight than anyone else's opinion.The question is are we saving more than we would bring in? Additionally, I know yall dont agree but as a parent I would want the athletic fees back from the university especially if sports arent being played. I dont think athletic fees are charged for online students because they dont attend the games due to them not physically being in school. hub.ncat.edu/administration/business-and-finance/comptroller/treasurers-office/2020-2021-distance-learning.pdf
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Post by saabman on Jul 19, 2020 22:01:36 GMT -5
The same could be said for an FCS institution that is prepared with a plan to handle COVID-19, but its conference decides to shutdown fall sports. I would assume it didn't require unanimous decision to shutdown if input from ADs and presidents was taken into consideration. Whose to say T didn't agree with the decision to shutdown, just as we weren't on board for the CB. If we can properly/safely field a football team then we should be allowed to. We would be playing against other teams whe wouls most likely have strict plans in place for their program's as well. There are those who know they can do this safely and those who know they can not. There are those that assume they can do this safely . It's amazing to see that people continue to not comprehend the severity of this COVID-19 pandemic and not comprehending that no one is safe " There are those who know they can do this safely " BS !!! Assumptions are just that thinking that you can control the narrative that doesn't mean you can do anything safely . It is thinking along those lines that will continue to accommodate and assist the continual growth and spread of Covid-19 virus.
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Jul 19, 2020 22:18:09 GMT -5
Man, I can't believe we have people on this site that thinks like Dummy Tweety Trump - money before safety.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 6:06:02 GMT -5
But in not playing, they (as are we) are saving money by not spending money, too.
Again, I hate to disagree with you, but we would be absolute fools to play college football during a pandemic that is currently killing hundreds of thousands of people. That's just my opinion and carries no more weight than anyone else's opinion. The question is are we saving more than we would bring in? Additionally, I know yall dont agree but as a parent I would want the athletic fees back from the university especially if sports arent being played. I dont think athletic fees are charged for online students because they dont attend the games due to them not physically being in school. hub.ncat.edu/administration/business-and-finance/comptroller/treasurers-office/2020-2021-distance-learning.pdfThe only athletic expenditures would be salaries and scholarships. operational and travel expenses would be close to nil.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Jul 20, 2020 6:48:07 GMT -5
I saw today that saliva testing is becoming available that would allow schools to quickly test players / students and I would assume less costly as I don’t think test needs to be sent to a lab for analysis
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