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Post by basefoot00 on Dec 27, 2018 6:33:23 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure his mother went to A&T too and I think I know the guy that coaches him in MS too lol. I’m on it Thrilla I will reach out to the family myself. I like you I have a feeling he wouldn’t mind playing for us!
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 27, 2018 8:46:06 GMT -5
You obviously missed the highlights of him running through defenders. It would be more if he didn't have to play both ways. Those were normal everyday runs in the park for him. 60 carries total all season because of playing both ways and sharing the load. Should have had the ball in his hands way more on offense and subbed out a little more on defense in my opinion. And how big do you think our rovers are? None are over 6ft. A Rover is nothing but a glorified strong safety he doesn't have to that big 200 to 190lbs is a good Wt for a Rover . I'm not even sure when the name "Rover" became a thing? Everyone uses that term now, but your right, its just a Strong Safety.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 9:59:27 GMT -5
A Rover is nothing but a glorified strong safety he doesn't have to that big 200 to 190lbs is a good Wt for a Rover . I'm not even sure when the name "Rover" became a thing? Everyone uses that term now, but your right, its just a Strong Safety. I've always thought we ran a 4-2-5 anyways.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Dec 27, 2018 10:12:00 GMT -5
I'm not even sure when the name "Rover" became a thing? Everyone uses that term now, but your right, its just a Strong Safety. I've always thought we ran a 4-2-5 anyways. We actually don't... but we do. Our SAM linebacker functions as a slot CB, or a Big Nickel (Buffalo). In 2016, it was Jeremy Taylor. In 2017... Marcus Albert. In 2018 (and likely 2019) it was Antoine Wilder. I'm going to say this again... putting Stuckey on the field at Rover at the same time with Wilder & Kittles is going to bring a different physical dynamic to this defense. Kittles really showed me something in ATL. Stuckey won't have Darden's experience and he might blow some coverages in 2019 as a result. But he's going to do some things for us at the Rover spot that we just haven't been seeing at our level.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 10:23:34 GMT -5
I've always thought we ran a 4-2-5 anyways. We actually don't... but we do. Our SAM linebacker functions as a slot CB, or a Big Nickel (Buffalo). In 2016, it was Jeremy Taylor. In 2017... Marcus Albert. In 2018 (and likely 2019) it was Antoine Wilder. I'm going to say this again... putting Stuckey on the field at Rover at the same time with Wilder & Kittles is going to bring a different physical dynamic to this defense. Kittles really showed me something in ATL. Stuckey won't have Darden's experience and he might blow some coverages in 2019 as a result. But he's going to do some things for us at the Rover spot that we just haven't been seeing at our level. I see. Kittles played well in that position during the CB especially early in the game, stopping their outside runs from gashing us for big gains. Having all 3 on the field on the same time will be huge for us, as they'll be some sort of a hellish trio for opposing offenses to stop. It always seemed we went for that speed and playmaking ability in the SAM spot in lieu of size and until the CB, it never really prevented us from stopping the run.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Dec 27, 2018 10:51:48 GMT -5
We actually don't... but we do. Our SAM linebacker functions as a slot CB, or a Big Nickel (Buffalo). In 2016, it was Jeremy Taylor. In 2017... Marcus Albert. In 2018 (and likely 2019) it was Antoine Wilder. I'm going to say this again... putting Stuckey on the field at Rover at the same time with Wilder & Kittles is going to bring a different physical dynamic to this defense. Kittles really showed me something in ATL. Stuckey won't have Darden's experience and he might blow some coverages in 2019 as a result. But he's going to do some things for us at the Rover spot that we just haven't been seeing at our level. I see. Kittles played well in that position during the CB especially early in the game, stopping their outside runs from gashing us for big gains. Having all 3 on the field on the same time will be huge for us, as they'll be some sort of a hellish trio for opposing offenses to stop. It always seemed we went for that speed and playmaking ability in the SAM spot in lieu of size and until the CB, it never really prevented us from stopping the run. Yep on Kittles. He was actually playing the Rover spot with Darden at FS during the CB. But Coach Sam even stated that Kittles is more of a FS with a willingness to hit, and I see him moving back to that spot for 2019. Jalon Bethea made a great play at the FS spot on the 2-pt conversion attempt. He's undersized and has a chronic shoulder condition, but he's definitely part of that rotation in 2019. The SAM spot wasn't the reason for the big run plays. That was mainly the other two LB spots that were out of position & using bad technique. I think Coach Denzel Jones has the makeup to be a great coach, but Alcorn's 2nd half performance was a wakeup call and great experience builder for him. It will be good to see how he progresses as a LB coach in 2019 from that experience. But to Coach Jones' credit... Alcorn scored only 22 pts in 2018 with him as LB coach compared to 35 pts in his last game as a player in 2015 as our MLB. I think it's a cool thing for one guy to experience the Celebration Bowl from that type of winning perspective.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Dec 27, 2018 12:34:01 GMT -5
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 27, 2018 13:39:36 GMT -5
From what I looked at, Stuckey was faster in high school and Nwachukwu is stronger. Depends on which one you want. They actually look about the same size. Sorry, I just don't believe ANY listed heights and weights anymore. No one verifies them. I'm a legit 6'2 and I get tired of looking down on these so called "6'1 and 6'2" recruits.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Dec 27, 2018 13:59:00 GMT -5
From what I looked at, Stuckey was faster in high school and Nwachukwu is stronger. Depends on which one you want. They actually look about the same size. Sorry, I just don't believe ANY listed heights and weights anymore. No one verifies them. I'm a legit 6'2 and I get tired of looking down on these so called "6'1 and 6'2" recruits. Well I'm glad we agree on the speed part. That's really the most important thing at the next level if you have adequate size. Stuckey benched 360 lbs and squatted 425 in HS. He's plenty strong and looked the part on special teams this year. Nwachukwu would have to play a lot faster mentally to be a contributor at FCS. That's why I say he'd need to redshirt & be coached up. LB is probably his best position, not DB. Kingsley ain't stronger, either... LOL www.hudl.com/profile/6297640/Kingsley-Nwachukwuwww.ncsasports.org/football-recruiting/new-york/new-berlin/milford-academy/joseph-stuckey
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 27, 2018 14:06:32 GMT -5
From what I looked at, Stuckey was faster in high school and Nwachukwu is stronger. Depends on which one you want. They actually look about the same size. Sorry, I just don't believe ANY listed heights and weights anymore. No one verifies them. I'm a legit 6'2 and I get tired of looking down on these so called "6'1 and 6'2" recruits. Well I'm glad we agree on the speed part. That's really the most important thing at the next level if you have adequate size. Stuckey benched 360 lbs and squatted 425 in HS. He's plenty strong and looked the part on special teams this year. Nwachukwu would have to play a lot faster mentally to be a contributor at FCS. That's why I say he'd need to redshirt & be coached up. LB is probably his best position, not DB. Kingsley ain't stronger, either... LOL www.hudl.com/profile/6297640/Kingsley-Nwachukwuwww.ncsasports.org/football-recruiting/new-york/new-berlin/milford-academy/joseph-stuckey Man, didn't I tell you to stop going on man-entered statistics. Every WR and DB in high school does not run their listed 4.38 40 time, LOL. I've seen Nwachukwu play in person. That bench is not right. He bulldozes kids and plays like he can bench 400. I personally like him better as a bruiser back(freshman year Cartwright) than at Rover anyway at the FCS level. Sometimes you have to look pass stats, which is what has gotten A&T some gems.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Dec 27, 2018 14:15:12 GMT -5
Man, didn't I tell you to stop going on man-entered statistics. Every WR and DB in high school does not run their listed 4.38 40 time, LOL. I've seen Nwachukwu play in person. That bench is not right. He bulldozes kids and plays like he can bench 400. I personally like him better as a bruiser back(freshman year Cartwright) than at Rover anyway at the FCS level. Sometimes you have to look pass stats, which is what has gotten A&T some gems. Man, I just gotta mess with you today. LOL His brother is here (hopefully redshirted since he didn't play). If our staff believes he's a rough gem... I'm sure he'll get a look.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 27, 2018 14:31:00 GMT -5
And I'm not saying straight up offer him. to be honest, I was on the fence about him most of the year as far as being an FCS talent, but he is definitely worth a look. If we got better Rovers or power RBs then definitely pass.
You have to put these types kids on your radar because you still have to ask a few questions like: 1) How old are you at graduation? Will you be 19 or 18, just turning 18 or still 17". If Kingsley is going to still be 17 at graduation in May he looks like a great recruit for FCS now right. If he turned 18 back in September, then not so much. 2) Did he run track? If he did track for 3 years already....."dude you still that slow? Nah, I think we'll pass". If he NEVER ran track...maybe we got something. 3) What was your offseason and during season workout regiment like. What did they do. Are they just raw or has thier potential been reached 4) Give me 3 full games, no highlights, so I can see your mistakes also.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 27, 2018 23:06:56 GMT -5
At some point we need to starting winning a few of these battles for legitimate 3 star recruits.
I know the reality of our limited resources and the perceptions of being an HBCU, but what's the point of earning all these Celebration Bowl trophies and getting national TV exposure if we can't translate that into some major victories on the recruiting trail?
Our coaches have proven they can identify diamonds in the rough and develop talent. Now they need to show that they can also sell this program to bigtime recruits.
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Post by numberonebrave on Dec 28, 2018 9:38:55 GMT -5
I think redshirt freshman RB TJ Boyce from North Davidson will be in the mix as back up to MARTIN . He was a late signee and was injured in East-West All star game on his second carry. Monroe and mom visited A&T at least once but I thought I saw them a second time. With 63 scholarships , seems to me the rover being discussed is walk on material, I would like to think, as someone said , there are better players being recruited at that position.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 28, 2018 10:49:02 GMT -5
I like Boyce. Seems to have more initial burst and lateral moves than Graves.
Are we sure he is still on campus? Dont remember seeing him at all this past season.
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