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Post by aggiebred09 on Apr 15, 2014 18:02:53 GMT -5
I don't think turf or lack of will impact recruiting or put more butts in seats at Aggie Stadium.
I think folks missed the agricultural development piece Dooms mentioned earlier.
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 16, 2014 5:58:42 GMT -5
Clearly...
When I thought about us being an agricultural and engineering school, it seemed to me a no-brainer that we could and SHOULD be the school that develops the future of natural turf. Just because this sythetic turf is the in thing today doesn't mean it will always be that way.
Think of Gatorade. That mess started as some stuff some cats from the University of Florida mixed together. Now look at it. And now look at the University of Florida. And yes, the University of Florida receives shares of money off Gatorade sales.
We can leave it sorry like it is. We can spend some money to get some synthetic turf. Or we can usher in a new natural turf that is more durable, longer lasting, more visually appealing, and easier to maintain. If Ayantee is actually able to create "Aggieturf", the sky is the limit on how much money and positive notoriety the school could gain. Of course, if we don't even try...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 16, 2014 8:46:04 GMT -5
I think folks missed the agricultural development piece Dooms mentioned earlier. actually, i pointed that out way back on the very first page of this thread...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Apr 16, 2014 10:05:32 GMT -5
(Most field events are held at another location . Only the LJ, TJ, and HJ are joined with the running events)..............the Javelin is currently on the football field...... I thought javelin was on the practice field. But on another note, If the cost of maintaning is similar then we should get it simply because of the revenue it can generate. Example Revenue Model. This is the pay scale used by Durham County Stadium(They installed turf and new track recently). We cant do this now because we have to preserve our grass field. Also, our fees would probably be more because of stadium size. CASL(soccer) is ALWAYS looking for more game and practice fields. With a turf field the stadium would get revenue YEAR ROUND. Stadium Rental $1,200/game/day $600/hour $1,200/game/day $300/hour [less than four hours] Track Rental $1,000/day $1,500/day $1,500/day Parking Lot Only (Entire) $500/day $500/day $500/day Parking Lot (partial area) $67/hour $67/hour $67/hour Practice Field $200/week $35/hour Peak Time Practices (Turf Field use only) $110/hour $110/hour $110/hour Sheriff (Flat Rate) $25/hour *Stadium Use: Off Season and Non Peak Period/Times: December to March Maximum Tailgating Charge @ $25.00/space This doesn't even include the concession fees they could get a cut of.
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Post by aggiebred09 on Apr 16, 2014 10:45:56 GMT -5
I think folks missed the agricultural development piece Dooms mentioned earlier. actually, i pointed that out way back on the very first page of this thread... Kudos...Where do we go from here? Realistically they wont lift the field overnight so there is time to talk with the School of Ag. Then again folks want Turf to keep up with the Jones' so it may be a mute point.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 16, 2014 12:16:28 GMT -5
i don’t have any inside info, but my gut tells me that field turf is not in our plans for the immediate or short term future. maybe down the road it might happen, especially if the rest of the meac schools who have it begin to reap major benefits as a result of installing field turf. meanwhile, i think we have no choice but to maintain our natural grass. and if we are, i just wish we’d invest more funding if necessary to keep our fields green for an entire football season as well as for spring practice and the spring football game.
certainly if we don’t field turf aggie stadium, i really think we should give heavy consideration to field turfing our practice field for 2 reasons. the most important reason being because our practice field is usually in bad shape by the end of september which makes the conditions from practicing there not so good. practicing the entire year on an undamaged surface would be good for the team. and the other reason we should consider field turfing the practice field is because most of our meac road games will be played on synthetic turf and it would give our guys a chance to get more acclimated to playing games on a synthetic turf surface since 8 meac schools play their games and practice on synthetic turf...
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 16, 2014 13:07:41 GMT -5
actually, i pointed that out way back on the very first page of this thread... Kudos...Where do we go from here? Realistically they wont lift the field overnight so there is time to talk with the School of Ag. Then again folks want Turf to keep up with the Jones' so it may be a mute point. Actually, he still missed the piece you're talking about. The piece about actually developing a new type of grass. But methinks you and I may be the only ones who have any interest in that, so it will probably die like the grass come late October.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Apr 16, 2014 13:33:20 GMT -5
As I said earlier for starters you can overseed late fall with winter rye and that gives you green grass all year
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 16, 2014 13:36:37 GMT -5
What I'm saying is to engineer a brand new type of grass and seed. Not to do what's already been done.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 16, 2014 13:49:03 GMT -5
Kudos...Where do we go from here? Realistically they wont lift the field overnight so there is time to talk with the School of Ag. Then again folks want Turf to keep up with the Jones' so it may be a mute point. Actually, he still missed the piece you're talking about. The piece about actually developing a new type of grass. But methinks you and I may be the only ones who have any interest in that, so it will probably die like the grass come late October. actually, that piece came "after" aggiebred's comment. but i think you have a pretty good idea with that, probably even a great idea with that. my only problem is that we can't even keep the grass we already have green, much less develop a new type of grass that's way better than any grass for athletic surfaces that currently exists. for the life of me, i honestly don't understand why we can't keep our existing grass green and/or do the research necessary to develop an a&t patented grass that's the envy of the world. i dunno, with the state budget cuts and all, maybe we don't have enough personnel (scientists) onboard to devote to the task at hand. kinda frustrating to me that we're an agriculture school, yet we can’t keep our own grass green. just like until the martin administration came into office, i use to get very frustrated that we’re a great engineering school, yet we use to have the worst school websites (both main & athletic) in the meac. neither scenario made sense to me...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 16, 2014 13:57:53 GMT -5
(Most field events are held at another location . Only the LJ, TJ, and HJ are joined with the running events)..............the Javelin is currently on the football field...... I thought javelin was on the practice field. But on another note, If the cost of maintaning is similar then we should get it simply because of the revenue it can generate. Example Revenue Model. This is the pay scale used by Durham County Stadium(They installed turf and new track recently). We cant do this now because we have to preserve our grass field. Also, our fees would probably be more because of stadium size. CASL(soccer) is ALWAYS looking for more game and practice fields. With a turf field the stadium would get revenue YEAR ROUND. Stadium Rental $1,200/game/day $600/hour $1,200/game/day $300/hour [less than four hours] Track Rental $1,000/day $1,500/day $1,500/day Parking Lot Only (Entire) $500/day $500/day $500/day Parking Lot (partial area) $67/hour $67/hour $67/hour Practice Field $200/week $35/hour Peak Time Practices (Turf Field use only) $110/hour $110/hour $110/hour Sheriff (Flat Rate) $25/hour *Stadium Use: Off Season and Non Peak Period/Times: December to March Maximum Tailgating Charge @ $25.00/space This doesn't even include the concession fees they could get a cut of. good points, monster. we could also probably bring in a high school state championship football game or two as well. in my eyes, field turf would put aggie stadium "almost" on the same level as wake forest's football stadium which have hosted state championship football games in recent years...
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Post by Maxell on Apr 16, 2014 14:01:38 GMT -5
Regarding other departments at A&T doing projects related to athletics ...
I think it is/was about the relationship between our academic departments, facilities department and athletics. Martin is the only one that can bridge that gap. It has been a rocky relationship in the past. Some department heads just don't like athletics. Hilton and Martin have a lot of building and mending to do.
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Post by saabman on Apr 16, 2014 14:39:44 GMT -5
I think folks missed the agricultural development piece Dooms mentioned earlier. actually, i pointed that out way back on the very first page of this thread... Not only was it pointed out on this thread by you but me talked about it when broadway became the coach. Some of us made a big to do about useing the Agi department. But now we are back to this again lol. Field Turf will only help the program too reach the next level in recruitmen, also enhance the appearance of the stadium complex. Come on gents if we have too grow with the big boy pants. To go up we got to grow up.
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Post by saabman on Apr 16, 2014 14:47:05 GMT -5
I agree.
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Post by aggiebred09 on Apr 16, 2014 14:48:27 GMT -5
So I did some light digging (No pun intended) and here is what I found: The Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Design has a sustainable land management program
It would seem that some large Turf Grass company would be happy to fund this research and we could name the field (literally).
Maxwell brought in a very valid point. A lot of cash strapped departments may feel like Athletics already gets enough praise. The school of AG is good for saying that other departments get more love.
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