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Post by marchingband1969 on Dec 12, 2013 19:10:18 GMT -5
How many of us looked at the recruiting report earlier this year and said...man I bet that 5'8" 170 lbs. running back from Bunn High School will really special. I bet the Shrine bowl folks discounted Cohen too. Glad everybody but Broadway overlooked him.
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Post by DOOMS on Dec 13, 2013 7:07:12 GMT -5
From what I'd read about him I thought he'd be pretty good. I just didn't think he'd be beat out two seniors for the starting role and set records good.
For some reason, his high school stats as listed by us are waaaay off. He might've had 800 yards on special teams, but he was well over 1,500 rushing for the year.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 13, 2013 10:02:09 GMT -5
goes to show that stats don't always mean everything. cohen had less yards rushing his senior year in high school than he did as a true undersized freshman at a&t in division 1 football. my question is, why didn't cohen make the shrine bowl or even the east/west all star game? The shrine bowl is very political and the players are normally selected by what they did their Junior year. so you could clearly be the best player in the state your senior year and not make the shrine bowl if you were an average junior. If they get selected off of their senior year it was probably because someone else dropped out and someone said "hey, Cohen(or whomever) is having a monster year. Let's put him in there".
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 13, 2013 10:35:02 GMT -5
goes to show that stats don't always mean everything. cohen had less yards rushing his senior year in high school than he did as a true undersized freshman at a&t in division 1 football. my question is, why didn't cohen make the shrine bowl or even the east/west all star game? The shrine bowl is very political and the players are normally selected by what they did their Junior year. so you could clearly be the best player in the state your senior year and not make the shrine bowl if you were an average junior. If they get selected off of their senior year it was probably because someone else dropped out and someone said "hey, Cohen(or whomever) is having a monster year. Let's put him in there". i don't think cohen made the east/west all star game either unless i missed his name. if he didn't make the east/west, do you think it was because of the same reason you stated for the shrine bowl? if not the shrine bowl, he should've easily made the east/west game in my opinion. kinda hard to believe he only had 800 yards rushing during his senior year (unless he got injured), though his yards per carry were completely off the friggin' charts. i may have to do a little research on his stats. or, it might be one of those instances where coach broadway tried to hide the kid's stats to keep our opponents in the dark...
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Post by Aggie One on Dec 13, 2013 12:29:38 GMT -5
I have long said there are far more quality athletes in the lower 3-A and 2-A ranks that are true studs that are just there ripe for the picking for programs like ours who never get a second look from most recruiters especially if they are located in extreme rural areas and small conferences.
The real reason he didn't get any of the high school headlines was because he was only 5-5,150 dripping wet, played at a small 2-A country school back in the sticks and no one ever thought, despite his immense running skills and speed, would ever translate into prime time player that he is now on any college level, espcially at an FCS level or above. They thought he was a "novelty" who might return kicks or something at best as a walk-on in D-2.
The experts pulled a classic "Mel Kipper" and flat blew it in evaluating him.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 13, 2013 13:35:45 GMT -5
I have long said there are far more quality athletes in the lower 3-A and 2-A ranks that are true studs that are just there ripe for the picking for programs like ours who never get a second look from most recruiters especially if they are located in extreme rural areas and small conferences. The real reason he didn't get any of the high school headlines was because he was only 5-5,150 dripping wet, played at a small 2-A country school back in the sticks and no one ever thought, despite his immense running skills and speed, would ever translate into prime time player that he is now on any college level, espcially at an FCS level or above. They thought he was a "novelty" who might return kicks or something at best as a walk-on in D-2. The experts pulled a classic "Mel Kipper" and flat blew it in evaluating him. a1, sounds like that's the likely scenario to me too. and you're right, often times guys in the lower divisions out in rural areas where scouts don't often frequent those locations, a stud can easily go overlooked unless his stats are so eye popping that it might get someone's attention. plus, in those rural areas, if their program or coach is not well known on the state level, guys can easily get overlooked...
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Post by AggieGroove on Dec 13, 2013 13:49:50 GMT -5
So we need to find a stud QB for next year! Is that possible? With the exception of the QB position, I am not worried about next year's team....
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Post by DOOMS on Dec 13, 2013 14:05:10 GMT -5
Honestly, I'd just move Lawrence to running back to help Cohen with the load, go full spread-option and uptempo, and let Quick run it. A full offseason would give us time to work on that.
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Post by Aggie One on Dec 13, 2013 14:07:58 GMT -5
Watch the kid from HP Andrews who's playing in the 2-AA championship game tonight. I really do like what I have seen of him this year at QB - His size, his decision making, his arm strength, accuracy, and athleticism. He can play.
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Post by maccarver on Dec 13, 2013 15:12:36 GMT -5
A1; Do you think we have a chance at the HP QB?
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Post by marchingband1969 on Dec 13, 2013 16:37:05 GMT -5
A1; Do you think we have a chance at the HP QB? This kid is getting TV coverage in the Charlotte market and when a kid get that much buzz, they think ACC/SEC not MEAC. Not saying we shouldn't go after him but it might be a big recruiting war for him. I agree though, we do need a stud QB...one that has a strong accurate passing arm and good foot speed. So far Quick hasn't showed me he can pass with consistency. Now by spring practice he may be another Cam Newton, but what I saw last year didn't impress me. By the way...the win over App State does give him points in my book. If we had not had him running the show that night we would have lost that game.
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Post by ohsixrain on Dec 14, 2013 11:02:06 GMT -5
The way I see it we should have inroads to several recruits. We have Southern High (Durham) coached by Adrian Jones, who was on Broadway's staff at NCCU, will be playing for the 3A state championship. Then, there's Dudley with its strong squad across the street, I think they made the championship as well (4A). It is my belief we will have a strong recruiting year.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 14, 2013 13:54:37 GMT -5
It is my belief we will have a strong recruiting year. i agree, ohsix. after consecutive 7-4 seasons along with coach broadway's track record and our current apr status, i honestly believe our program has now turned the corner. i wouldn't have said this a year ago. i've always felt that just one winning season wouldn't do it and that we needed back to back winning seasons to finally shake that awful 27 game losing streak perception of our program. but given where we are today along with wins over app state and elon, i don't think that 27 game losing streak can be used against us anymore. we've now left that terrible era of our program in the rearview mirror. and that's why i think we'll have a very good recruiting class in february. recruiting should be a lot easier for us than years 1 and 2 of broadway's tenure. i really think we've now turned the corner...
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Post by Aggie One on Dec 14, 2013 18:02:01 GMT -5
We have just as good of a chance as anyone else. We started looking at him a year before everyone saw his coming out party last night. We'll see. I do know this. Mr. Raynard is a prime time QB. Cartwright is a college ready back who can carry the rock for anyone, and Lea is a clutch receiver who knows how to get open. Plus they are just as loaded if not more so on defense. I'd take any of their seniors right now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 9:14:11 GMT -5
Where would you all rank this 2013 class amongst the A&T Greats?
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