wca, If you had a magic wand and gave Coach Eaves a $100K raise right now.....do you think it would translate into a 20-win season for 2012? I am in agreement that we have to pay our basketball head coach more ---- but Eaves ain't the one to pay it to. We'd be wasting money.
Did you see what happened at VCU today? Shaka Smart was making $325K a year. As soon as he wins big......he's now making $1.25 million dollars/year. His salary QUADRUPLED.....
2 weeks ago, did anyone at VCU believe their head basketball coach would ever make over one million bucks a year....let alone deserve it?
Let's keep it within the school. Folks were bellyaching about how A&T was broke and would never be able to afford a good football coach. Now we have Broadway at $232K per year. It's funny how money miraculously shows up at the table when there is someone across the table......WHO DESERVES IT.
If I was able to give $100K to the Men's B-Ball Program, NONE of that money is going to Eaves' salary. It would be used to increase the budgets for Assistant Coaching, recruiting and improving the facilities. We have to show to potential applicants that we are more than willing to be a legit Mid-Major program.
Eaves would not see a single penny over his current salary until his current contract is up and he has earned it. That would mean winning 20+ games this and next season and playing in the NIT or NCAA Tourney.
Either way, If we ever want to see A&T win a Men's NCAA Tourney game or even a NIT game, we got to continue 2 improve the Men's side ASAP!
Post by westcoastaggie on Apr 5, 2011 9:22:54 GMT -5
I'll give you that frisco. But we can see that Women's Basketball at A&T and in the MEAC mostly is now properly funded to become a legit Mid-Major Conference. On the Men's side, we are funding our teams to be where we are, "low-major".
Eventually if we do fund well enough to win the conference, after a few years of getting our wig split in the tourny, the calls will begin anew. Ask Corbett. Bibbs is only one .500 season away from it. I know you people. I used to be one of you.
Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Apr 5, 2011 11:16:08 GMT -5
That's why I say get rid of Eaves now......funding isn't the issue why we cannot win a first-round game in the MEAC tournament or scrape to make .500 every year ---- coaching is!!!!
I don't see how we expect funding/donations to improve if Eaves remains our coach. People like to see winners before they shell out money. Eaves and his staff give us no optimism with respect to the future of Aggie basketball. The potential ain't there......
And another thing - people talk about giving him another year to "prove himself" as if a year is a short period of time. We are flat out wasting another year of Aggie basketball doing this. It makes no sense. The NCAA tourny just finished, with the coaching convention down in Houston. Eaves should have been fired, and Hilton should've been down there inquiring about coaches and finding out who would be interested to come coach us.
We have wasted a golden opportunity to improve Aggie basketball by remaining stagnant YET AGAIN. Surely Hilton has to know this. Eaves gives us absolutely NO HOPE for future success.
We have wasted a golden opportunity to improve Aggie basketball by remaining stagnant YET AGAIN. Surely Hilton has to know this.
I think you would know the answer(about Hilton knowing) more than anyone here since you hollered at him about this more than anyone else.
So I'll ask you, if he is not gone now do you think he will be fired at all this year? And if you dont think so, then lets try and focus on improving other areas in the basketball department such as donations, marketing, getting fans out, etc, etc.
Hating on Eaves in the off season doesn't do anyone any good. Hate on him in September when people are back in basketball mode. With 2 years left on his contract i think a lot more people will be on board with you after next season.
A lot of people actually agree with you(including me), but just not the firing part with 2 years left on his contract. We dont have the money and donations aint going to make up $200K.
Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 5, 2011 11:40:36 GMT -5
funding means "everything" in division 1 basketball. but an "exceptional" coach can overcome funding and facilities shortfalls, such as todd bozeman and pat bibbs has done. whereas, coaches like ed joyner at hampton doesn't have to be "exceptional" in order to be successful because hampton gives joyner the support he needs.
in my opinion, we really need to upgrade corbett sports center so that we're at least on par or close to it with the top arenas in the meac. right now, imo, corbett ranks in the lower quarter of the meac in that regard.
and can someone verify whether corbett center doesn't have at least 4 "portable" basketball goals for men's and women's basketball practice? if corbett doesn't have at least 4 "portable" basketball goals to go along with the 2 at each end of the court, in my opinion, that's "despicable" for any d1 basketball program. i honestly can't see how a college coach can be most effective in practice without 6 basketball goals. can a coach live with only 2? why of course he/she can. but it truly limits the number of individual drills he/she can run during practice. i hate to say it, but for any college team not to have at least 6 baskets in their primary practice facility is not only "low budget", but also "low class".
imo, what a&t does is try to hire coaches who are miracle workers. in other words, coaches who can overcome lack of funding, facilities, and staff. instead of investing to improve our support system, we pray for miracles workers and neglect our support system. basically, we try to field teams on the cheap...
she's the "symbol" of lady aggie basketball excellence. its amber calvin's "show time" in aggieland!! the queen of "no look" passes...
Post by Aggie Monster on Apr 5, 2011 11:49:08 GMT -5
We always have these "funding" debates. Our coaches in MULTIPLE sports have been horrible and they are NOT the lowest funded(nor worse facilities) in the conference, but always seem to finish there. Its all about coaching skills, nothing more. Hillside use to win the state championships in track all the time and they had a DIRT track at the school. The won the state my senior year and they had a DIRT track.
Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Apr 5, 2011 11:55:23 GMT -5
I don't disagree with anything you just said OSA..... But we all know who has the prettiest/most modern gym in the MEAC ----- FAMU.....look at their results. You won't find a more raggedy gym than Bethune Cookman's Moore Gym. Hill Gymnasium at Morgan St? Antiquated.
Why is it that the women's team can function with only 2 goals with a freshman-laden team, but Eaves can't? I know women's basketball is different than men's bball, but no one can argue the fact that Aggies women's bball was the absolute worst before Bibbs came around. Yet, with only 2 goals in Corbett, the ladies have somehow made it in the MEAC, where the women's bball IS BETTER than the men's on the DI level.... We have to stop giving Eaves excuses for why he cannot win. He has 4 asst coaches - one of whom was a former head coach at Winston. With an improved staff, we looked just as bad in the MEAC tourny as we have over the past few years.
I'm not upset with anyone on this board....I'm just upset because it is so glaringly obvious to me how inept Eaves is as a coach. We're staring at 20 losses next year, unless he finds a way to schedule about 10 DII/NAIA teams next year. It will be another wasted year of Aggie basketball. I'm tired of wasting time and resources on a person who gives us no shot at winning anything.
If we have a 20-loss season, I want it to be with a coach who has the potential to turn it into 20 wins a few years down the road---- Eaves doesn't fit this criterion in the slightest bit.