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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 25, 2011 12:41:49 GMT -5
Let's keep it real for a minute here - the stuff that Coach Bibbs is doing on the recruiting trail is unheard of on our level. Bibbs is special. I also respect her age. If we want to promote from within, we need to have a coach who is being THOROUGHLY GROOMED to make the transition from Bibbs to the next coach a seemless one. Bibbs is no ordinary HBCU coach - and you all know what I mean when I say that. We can ill-afford to have a significant dropoff after she decides to hang them up one day. If we don't have a quality asst coach right now - we need to get one and make sure he/she is absorbing every drop of knowledge from Bibbs. I'm not wishing Bibbs away - far from it. But I'm no dummy either ---- we have to be ready for that day when she does step away. Aggie women's basketball has come too far to drop back in a post-Bibbs era, which may be in another season(s). ARE WE PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE? i hear ya, superstar. i know what you're sayin' and i don't disagree. except that i just don't think the gifts coach bibbs brings to the table can be "taught" to someone else. otherwise, her former lead assistant at hampton, walter mebane, would've continued her success at hampton and later at wssu. mebane got the boot at both. but david six had no direct ties to coach bibbs' staff and he's the one that was able to bring similar success to hampton. imo, there's a certain "combination" of personal attributes that dictates great recruiters over average recruiters. first and foremost is credibility. what is your track record. coach bibbs is uniquely the best in that regard at the hbcu level, no need for me to explain her track record. secondly, believe it or not, personality and charisma plays a major role when it comes to winning over recruits. either you have it, or you don't. can't be taught in my opinion. now, please don't misconstrue what i'm tryin' to say here. i'm not saying that credibility and personality are the "only" attributes that matter in recruiting. there's many other attributes that matter as well such as the coach's network of contacts (i.e., aau and high school coaches), the program's prestige/legacy, fan support (yes, game attendance matters), facilities, recent achievements (i.e., championships, postseason success), and yes, the university must sell itself (academics, social life, name recognition, quality on campus housing, etc.). i could go on and on. but to me, the difference making attributes that can't be "taught" are credibility and personality. imo, if we're anticipating the future replacement of coach bibbs or any other coach for that matter, the best candidate may or may not already be on staff. if i were an ad and i want to be prepared for future coaching retirements and/or firings, i'd always maintain a confidentially active list (meaning constantly updating every year) of about 5 to 10 "ideal" candidates that i'd want to go after following "thorough researching" of their backgrounds/experience. one realistic candidate that i'd keep an eye on is currently about 30 minutes away from greensboro and comes from a very rich "family tree" of coaches. not saying he'll be on the level of coach bibbs, but hail, we ain't gonna find too many who are. his name is stephen joyner, first year head women's coach down the street at wssu. he's the cousin of ed joyner, head men's coach at hampton. remember how "woeful" wssu's women were just before he came last year? they were like 2-28, or somethin' like that. in joyner's first season with essentially the same players plus a couple of recruits, he finished 17-11, a "15 game" turnaround in 1 season. just like his cousin at hampton, he turned wssu around instantly. his dad, stephen joyner sr., is the head men's basketball coach at jcsu. his uncle, edward "buck" joyner, coaches at st. paul's. now, before you accuse me a "kneejerk" decision again, i'm only saying i'd keep an eye on him and would probably have him on my confidential list if i were ad...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Mar 25, 2011 13:21:51 GMT -5
I don't disagree with anything you say. We'll see how Joyner pans out at Winston. With respect to Bibbs, she's doing things other HBCU coaches (and coaches from non-HBCU colleges on our level) simply can't do. If there is no one on the staff who is being groomed, the A.D. needs to be picking her brain on a regular to know how she does it. With all the quality recruits we're getting, this is unheard of on our level. Whatever or however she's doing it, it needs to be followed and meticulously studied. It can only benefit our next women's bball coach, whomever it may be.....
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 25, 2011 13:40:14 GMT -5
i understand your "bottom line", which is to be prepared and not get caught with our guards down (no pun intended). in that regard, i agree 100%...
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Post by aggie2ru on Mar 25, 2011 15:06:04 GMT -5
Speaking of recruiting and recruiting only--------It takes a very talented person to be successful---either you have it or you don't. I sincerely agree it is something that is not easily taught. If a coach does not have CHARISMA, PERSONALITY, and NET WORKING APPEAL that coach is doomed to be .500 in the MEAC or far less. Hopefully, Bibbs can take us to the big dance next year and something will click with administration and our fan base and it will carry over to recognize that the men's program should be doing the same thing.
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Post by sammiz on Mar 25, 2011 18:32:03 GMT -5
Question, please. Are there any women out there coaching mens basketball and what kind of record or statistics available.
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Post by bseballaggie on Mar 25, 2011 21:05:30 GMT -5
Let's keep it real for a minute here - the stuff that Coach Bibbs is doing on the recruiting trail is unheard of on our level. Bibbs is special. I also respect her age. If we want to promote from within, we need to have a coach who is being THOROUGHLY GROOMED to make the transition from Bibbs to the next coach a seemless one. Bibbs is no ordinary HBCU coach - and you all know what I mean when I say that. We can ill-afford to have a significant dropoff after she decides to hang them up one day. If we don't have a quality asst coach right now - we need to get one and make sure he/she is absorbing every drop of knowledge from Bibbs. I'm not wishing Bibbs away - far from it. But I'm no dummy either ---- we have to be ready for that day when she does step away. Aggie women's basketball has come too far to drop back in a post-Bibbs era, which may be in another season(s). ARE WE PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE? First let me say, what I got from my meeting with her is, Bibbs isn't going anywhere soon, I got the impression that someone told her that she wasn't good enough! There is a fire that is burning in this Lady that is only going to get hotter the closer she gets to the pinnacle of the NCAA championship, her conversation hinged on beating Hampton, getting the MEAC crown back and on the sweet sixteen all in that order. She has decided that the only way to do this is to find one more coach with her fiber, and fire, shop where the big five shop and getting her girls to commit to intense training, and a smothering woman to woman defense. We where number one in scoring this year, and last in defense...I fear she may go SUPER NOVA. LOL.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Mar 25, 2011 22:05:54 GMT -5
I saw Hampton's women's team this year. They were not better than our 2 previous women's teams at A&T. They were not as tall or as athletic....yet they took UK to overtime in the first round. Amber Calvin will be back; our freshman were difference makers in their first year without Calvin. Our incoming class looks strong.....The ingredients are there for 2011-12 to be one for the record books. Barring injuries and academic casualties, how can anyone think otherwise. Next year is ours for the taking if everyone does their respective jobs...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 26, 2011 9:25:20 GMT -5
i agree with most of what you stated, superstar. but i still wouldn't discount hampton. their only key loss will be j. perry, their best post player and defensive player of the year. but they return those "lethal" guards in j. jenkins and mcmillan, plus swing player avant.
hopefully calvin will be 100%, but even she isn't quick enough to stay in front of jenkins. i don't think its a no brainer, but i agree we should be strong championship contenders next season.
and what i like most about next season's team is the multiple "bigs" we'll have across the front line. the three 6'2" recruits (one of them can dunk), plus 6'2" gorham returning as a junior, and don't forget 6'0" s. proctor returning as a small or power forward. maybe we don't have "major d1" size, but we've got enough size to compete with major d1's.
we'll have scoring coming from multiple folks who can flat out light it up. berry, calvin, scott, king, and proctor are all capable of 20 point games.
and check this out, we'll still be "very young" next season! unless murdaugh returns, there still won't be 1 single senior on the team! calvin would still have 3 years of eligibility left and berry would have 2.
i think this team could emerge in the long haul as one of coach bibbs' best at a&t. if not next season, then the season afterwards...
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Mar 26, 2011 13:03:10 GMT -5
Yea I would not discredit Hampton as the annoucers during the Kentucky game said that Hampton had signed a couple of post players as well.
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Post by hawkeye on Apr 16, 2011 20:08:25 GMT -5
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Post by hawkeye on Apr 16, 2011 20:14:30 GMT -5
www.wtva.com/content/sports/local/story/West-Point-hoopster-going-Division-One/ro-3oaX-HUeY7dYevKfblQ.cspxWest Point hoopster going Division One Reported by: Jim Holder Email: jholder@wtva.com Last Update: 4/15 3:08 pm WEST POINT, Miss. (WTVA) - West Point High School's Kelsei Ewings signed Friday with North Carolina A&T's women's basketball program. Ewings, a 5'4" guard, averaged 27 points and six assists last season. She played in the Mississippi-Alabama All-Star Game in March. Ewings is the second area player in two days to sign with North Carolina A&T. Tupelo's Chy Cunningham signed with the Aggies on Thursday.
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