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Post by aggiesjh88 on Oct 27, 2006 11:29:15 GMT -5
I want too be the first one to apologize for the beaten last night. Like one of the previous poster stated above. Coach Hayes knew how to win and never took a beaten like this. I know from 1992-1996 we never had anything close to what the current team has in terms of facilities go. An we never lost to anyone that bad. If someone happen to score 40 points on us. You best believe we at least in the high 20's or 30's. Beside one game which was against South Carolina State in 1996. We ( The members of the Aggie Football Team of 1996) apologize for beating Bethune C. 73-7 in 1996 on Home Coming. However, do we feel bad about the win? NO! Would we do it again if we could turn back the hands of time? As the great WILD BILL HAYES WOULD HELL YES! "And that goes for Lottie Dottie and Every Damn Body" William "Bill" Hayes 1992-1996. I enjoyed beaten Wyatt and his boys that bad. So if anyone knows the current Aggies coach and team personally. Tell them We are SORRY! But at sometime your heart has too kick in and say damn I am not going to go out like this. I think that was the difference.
Sincerely,
James B. Harris Aggies 1992-1997 WR #88 "Busta"
james_bharris@hotmail.com
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 27, 2006 12:02:50 GMT -5
OK, I just found out the board has no say. Ultimately the money comes from student fees...
So now what can we do?
BDF, how can we come up with a million dollars a year to repair the infrastructure?
p.s. no need to apologize James. I'm just one of many that enjoyed watching y'all over the years.
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Post by bluehaze on Oct 27, 2006 12:28:39 GMT -5
Dooms, I believe you are giving up too soon. I don't believe the Board has no say so. That just doesn't sound right.
I'm inclined to believe what aggierob is saying
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Post by DECKS on Oct 27, 2006 12:36:53 GMT -5
I agree with bh. I serve on a couple of boards and we approve budgets for each organization at the board level.
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 27, 2006 12:37:15 GMT -5
You're right.
I'm still writing my letter. Anybody with me?
I think I'll go so far as to double my contribution if the school is willing to increase theirs.
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Post by Maxell on Oct 27, 2006 12:43:11 GMT -5
Who are we writing to exactly again?
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 27, 2006 12:46:16 GMT -5
I'm writing to the school address and addressing it to Hackley and to the board of trustees with a carbon to Dee.
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Post by aggierob on Oct 27, 2006 13:49:48 GMT -5
When I was Fayetteville State the BOT had to approved using unrestricted funds and housing receipts to renovate the stadium and building a new pressbox/chancellor suite. Whenever students fees wanted to be increase the BOT wanted to know how funds would be used. Whenever students complained about not having proper labs or having inaquedate dorms someone had to tell the BOT why we could spend funds to improve. BOT is very involve with the university finance/budget. Infact one the BOT committes is call the "Finance Committee". Every BOT meeting the VC of Finance must present a report to the Finance Committee and address budget issues.
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Post by econgrad71 on Oct 28, 2006 15:52:53 GMT -5
aggiesjh88, aggiejazz, bornthrilla, et. al., ...I respect your point of view but stand by what I've said. Bill Hayes was one hellava recruiter... he got some good, even great, athletes to come to A&T that enabled him to put some great teams on the field. The problem is, Bill Hayes can't coach...especially if the team falls behind, in most cases. This was one of the major criticisms against Hayes. I use to hear it often while sitting in the stands..."Please don't let the "T" get behind...Hayes is going to blow it!" On a member school's (FAMU's) message board several years ago when they were looking for a coach at just about the same time Hayes was dismissed from A&T, and someone asked if Hayes would be a good candidate for that job and another responded that Hayes, though a good recruiter, was not a good coach and had a reputation for blowing games when the team falls behind. My criticism of Hayes is not mine alone. I would have loved for Hayes to have become the AD while hiring another coach who could coach. Obviously, Small was not the guy, in my opinion. Now we have Fobbs. This is not meant to be ugly, but as the old saying goes, "you can't make chicken salad out of chicken Sh__t". There's no doubt in my mind that most of the young players we have right now will become chicken salad in a year or two. They just aren't ready right now, and we need to recognize that and be patient and give Fobbs a fair chance.
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 28, 2006 17:18:16 GMT -5
Econ, I had complaints about Hayes coaching along with a lot of my friends. The problem a lot of alumni did not know about was that Hayes had a very small budget to operate a football program with and he knew how to stretch a dollar to make the program competitive. Hayes did not have a recruiting coordinator that only handled recruiting. Hayes barely had enough gas and food money to travel and that was when gas cost about $.90/gal. Hayes always had a young coaching staff until late in his tenure because of pay. Everytime the young postiion coach got his experience at A&T and became good, he left for better pay. You could not find a better headcoach to operate under Chancellor "What is College Sports?" Fort. Chancellor Fort was good administrator for academics but he felt uncomfortable concerning sports.
A&T has increased the football budget after each firing of the headcoach. If A&T had given the Hayes the increases in money they gave Smalls and later Fobbs we probably could have made it to a NCAA 1AA semi-final game. When people complained about Hayes' Wing-T, Hayes did changed it but he had to get a unproven young coordinator to do it.
Only one HBCU has been successful outside of HBCU football and that is FAMU. You want patience now when you did not have it for Smalls. People forget that Smalls did not have a recruiting class of his own his first year. If Smalls was so bad of a coach then why did he win 3 games in each of those two bad years and came close to winning three additional games each down year. Smalls only left one class of his own, the Sophomores and redshirt freshman class. A few of those kids Small recruited had All-state in front of their names. He had very little to do with this freshman class. I repeat Smalls had very little to do with this freshman class. You can decide if that is good or bad. The senior class, all three of them belongs to Hayes and you can split the Junior class between Smalls and Hayes.
If Smalls had to be fired so be it but don't give me a inexperienced Fobbs and say lets be patient. I can be patient with 18 and 19 year old student athletes but not a 55 year old coach who just jump two coaching levels to become A&T's headcoach because his buddy was able to snow A&T's AD that Fobbs had what it takes even though his resume screamed runningback coach from the top of the page to bottom and from left margin to right.
I am not saying fire Fobbs but a lot of people don't have good memory because Mo Forte came into a worse program the day he walked through those ragedy azz fieldhouse doors on the top of the hill. Hell, he only had about 30 football players and he did a hellava better job his first year than Fobbs. Forte was walking the dorms trying to get guys to come tryout for "T".
I did not expect this team to be good this year but I didn't expect everyone from the AD in the office to the coaches on the sideline and pressbox down to every football player to be completely cluesless on how to execute smartly. There is not more than one complete football quarter of good football from both sides of the football from this group so far and I don't count mop-up time in the fourth quarter when you are down by 30.
Again I say, only a smart and wise Chancellor with a wiser BOT can guide A&T out of this mess.
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Post by numberonebrave on Oct 28, 2006 17:38:21 GMT -5
Question to AGGIEJAZZ REGARDING WHY HIRE A STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING COACH NOW. Is football the only sport ( albeit the most athletes) that the S&C coach will impact? Perhaps a way to get $$$ would be to request some from your NFL players. Mike Basnight purchased uniforms when he was in the NFL...Players from other schools give back , why not your players?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 28, 2006 17:51:35 GMT -5
Mo Hicks is making about $300,000 this year with the 49ers. Last weekend, Curtis Deloatch was pushing a luxury Benz around Greensboro and was wearing more bling at the tailgate area than Lil Wayne in a Cash Money video.
Those guys should be able to come off at least 5 Gs apiece - especially since it is tax deductable.
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 28, 2006 18:56:36 GMT -5
For some reason black professional athletes only give money back to their white colleges and I mean big money. Go figure I will add that Basnight have assisted the athletic program and he has made the least money out of the guys who did play in the NFL multiple years the last 10 to 12 years.
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 28, 2006 19:03:48 GMT -5
Football normally monopolize the strength and conditioning coach's time. Basketball programs are in their pre-season and so is baseball but you would see the S&C at football practice in the afternoon. Maybe the S&C will get around to helping the other sports but he is only one man. Question to AGGIEJAZZ REGARDING WHY HIRE A STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING COACH NOW. Is football the only sport ( albeit the most athletes) that the S&C coach will impact? Perhaps a way to get $$$ would be to request some from your NFL players. Mike Basnight purchased uniforms when he was in the NFL...Players from other schools give back , why not your players?
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Post by econgrad71 on Oct 28, 2006 23:30:25 GMT -5
aggiejazz... your points (and good ones they are) are well taken. Time will tell, my friend.
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