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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 13, 2006 23:29:19 GMT -5
I think this was the most powerful statement of the interview. If we can get the new chancellor to understand this fundamental truth, we might have a chance. If not ... hello Praire View.
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 16, 2006 12:19:19 GMT -5
I have one Big question; if the powers that be did not want a HBCU retread, why in the hell would you let a SWAC coach whose coaching success didn't go beyond the gates of the SWAC be one of the main decisionmakers picking A&T's next football headcoach? On top of all that, you allowed this SWAC guy, "Dougy Baby", to heavily lobby for his buddy under the guise of critiquing qualified candidates for headcoach. A buddy who knew little about Division 1AA football and probably close to zero about southeastern high school or college football. Those two things are not deal breakers but if you throw in the rest of Fobbs' resume and salary it is a deal breaker.
Hell, A&T could have hired me for half the price, loaded my staff with high school football coaches and we would have given you the same results along with the same hopes of getting better. Add on, I wouldn't be another HBCU retread and you got yourself a deal. OK, I am joking. I just wished the process that was used to choose the current headcoach for A&T football wasn't a joke.
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 16, 2006 13:00:25 GMT -5
Well, knowing Jim Renick and his penchant for running around like a broke a$$ Jerry Jones I suspect Renick told her to go hire Doug Williams and that's how she ended up speaking with him. The only difference between Doug and Dough is one letter. We simply ain't have the 250 large or more to be purchasing the pass-happy ashy lipped non speaking hbcu game winning it's well documented that he's even scared to even go to the playoffs services of Williams.
Plan B: If you can't get Doug get the guy Doug says get. Jazz, in one of Fobbs' many stops as a position coach he did coach a team that made the division I-AA playoffs. I think they lost in the first round and he was off to coach another position at another school, but he knows a little (very little) about I-AA football. He's getting one hell of an education right now at our expense. We'll call it an athletic scholarship.
After I bitched and moaned ad nauseum about the pick I came to realize something: There were certain coaches that expressed interest that just weren't going to be picked or even interviewed because they didn't fit the "mold" of what Ms. Todd was looking for even though they would've clearly been more experienced choices. But given the folks that were rumored to be finalists for the position the past two times it came open Fobbs was probably one of the best choices that did fit the "mold." That in itself says a whole lot about the state of Aggie athletics, particularly in black college football circles. Basically it says nobody wants to coach here. With a budget that ain't moved since Jimmy Johnson's hair it's small wonder.
That's why I always lobby to have the list of who's being considered published. While the a.d. makes the choice the a.d. also comes to us to ask for money so there is some accountability there.
That being said what's done is done. When Fobbs is either fired four years from now or retires a hero eight years from now if Ms. Todd is still our a.d. she may have learned a little something.
In my opinion if we aren't going to commit to at least 8 million for the athletic department with a yearly increase our asses shouldn't be playing division I sports. If we continue to do so then I guarantee when the meac commissioner makes the suggestion that the meac forego the playoffs for a swac-off format we will be the first in line voting for it. Because that's the only way we will be competitive.
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Post by JayBee on Oct 16, 2006 14:00:11 GMT -5
That's why I always lobby to have the list of who's being considered published. While the a.d. makes the choice the a.d. also comes to us to ask for money so there is some accountability there. That's a very good point. At least make the list available to Club members. |
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Post by hawkeye on Oct 16, 2006 20:45:19 GMT -5
How much are we paying Dee Todd? We supposely fired 2 ADs because they didn't
bring in enough dollars and Todd doesn't seem to know what she's going to do to bring
in additional funds either. She needs to be evaluated annually like any other
professional. There must be metrics and goals which have to be met.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 16, 2006 21:47:21 GMT -5
My next big interview request will be for Phillip McAlphin, our Associate Athletic Director for Development/Marketing. I'd like to pick his brain and find out what type of ideas he has to bring in some corporate dollars. He, more than Dee Todd, is directly responsible for that.
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Post by Gator on Oct 16, 2006 22:12:35 GMT -5
Thrilla,
I appreciate the interview and your efforts. This should serve notice to us all that we need to our part and help turn this thing around.
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Post by antfan2003 on Oct 17, 2006 7:56:46 GMT -5
Thrilla,
Interviewing McAlpin would be a waste of time.. He's clueless about athletics. He has his own agenda with the VClub and it hasnt produced any results. Also his title now is Director of Developmement. All that Associate AD/Development and Marketing stuff was removed about 8 months ago. Keith McCluney is over all the marketing McAlpin is SUPPOSED to be raising money thru corporate sponsors. So if you interview him hes going to give you all these big numbers about what the VClub is doing in terms of sponsorship dollars but those numbers dont calculate into real dollars and they are all inflated. So save yourself the wasted time of interviewing him. But then again im sure the readers on here would see right thru his BS.. So maybe you should interview him...I just think itll be a waste of time. You wont know anymore coming out than you did going in
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 17, 2006 8:15:58 GMT -5
How much are we paying Dee Todd? We supposely fired 2 ADs because they didn't bring in enough dollars and Todd doesn't seem to know what she's going to do to bring in additional funds either. She needs to be evaluated annually like any other professional. There must be metrics and goals which have to be met. Remember, we didn't fire the last two ADs, Jerry Jones Renick did. A whole lot of this constant upheaval in positions, lack of funding for athletics, and pathetic performance of the sports teams somehow coincided with Renick being firmly entrenched on campus. But we do have nice buildings. |
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 18, 2006 9:50:43 GMT -5
[quote author=hawkeye board=general thread= Remember, we didn't fire the last two ADs, Jerry Jones Renick did. A whole lot of this constant upheaval in positions, lack of funding for athletics, and pathetic performance of the sports teams somehow coincided with Renick being firmly entrenched on campus. But we do have nice buildings. I like Renick but most of the credit should go to the voting public of NC. Renick first firing of Scandrett started this line of mishaps in the athletic department. There were complaints about Scandrett but I know where athletics were the day before he arrived and where it was when he left. Scandrett left the department in a lot better shape than what he inherit when he first arrived. |
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Post by Bigboy on Oct 18, 2006 9:56:26 GMT -5
Scandrett's firing had nothing to do with job performance. From what I was told some kind of mismanagement of money was involved in his firing. I am not sure about the details. Correct me if i am wrong.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 18, 2006 9:57:35 GMT -5
I heard something similar to that as well.
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 18, 2006 10:12:16 GMT -5
You can call it mismanagement but it was more like a courtesy from what I was told. It was definitely nothing to fire the AD over. It was a hook to get rid of him because a lot of the people underneath him did like him because he was so tough and rough in the way he spoke to them. He had his peronal faults like a everyone but those faults must be weighed against what he brought to an organization that needed direction and a kick in the azz.
Scandrett He still got paid for his last year so I don't know if A&T had a case that he did anything illegal.
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Post by Bigboy on Oct 18, 2006 10:56:57 GMT -5
Since we are talking about Scandrett, I heard his son is a pretty good basketball player. Does he have any college offers yet?
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 20, 2006 7:07:44 GMT -5
Scandrett's son is a freshman at Radford University. He played B-ball at West Guildford High School, I think. Since we are talking about Scandrett, I heard his son is a pretty good basketball player. Does he have any college offers yet? |
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