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Post by numberonebrave on Nov 14, 2008 14:03:10 GMT -5
I never heard of a MEAC head coach leaving for a non-HBCU. (I'm only in my mid 20s so it could have happen). Although he did not leave the ranks of HBCU schools, dIdn't Joe Taylor turn down WCU for FAMU?
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Post by Aggie One on Nov 14, 2008 18:02:46 GMT -5
Willie Jefferies did it at S.C. State in the late 70's when he went to Witchita State then resurfaced at Howard after some NCAA violations three years later.
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Post by The Professor on Nov 18, 2008 19:36:10 GMT -5
Please forgive me but I am not concern about being competitive in the MEAC! I want to see NC A&T in the D I-AA playoffs! I want to see a D I-A team on the schedule! This talk of being competitve in the MEAC is pointless to me. THERE IS NO SCHOOL IN THE MEAC WHERE NC A&T SHOULD WANT TO BE, SO MEASURING YOURSELF AGAINST MEAC SCHOOLS IS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE! In order to coach up you have to superior coaching talent! Superior Coaching just don't walk into the MEAC. Lets be honest, you don't see our HBCU coaches jumping to the bigger conferences. Yeah, you have the Ron Princes of the world, but they are so few and far in between. I never heard of a MEAC head coach leaving for a non-HBCU. (I'm only in my mid 20s so it could have happen). PARAPHRASING HERE => John Chaney said that HBCU was at the bottom of the D-I Athletics (in Black Magic). IF an Alum with his experience, said that there must be some truth in it. So please tell me why are MEAC coaches getting paid more than Big Sky Coahes? U must be concernedwith the conference because it's hard for any school form the MEAC to get an at-large bid. Look at Morgan. Their starting QB is from High Point. RB is from Greensboro. We have had a D1 school on the schedule, it don't help. We need to be competitive in our conference first. Then we can take over the world
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 19, 2008 10:10:51 GMT -5
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Post by wart on Dec 5, 2008 9:49:42 GMT -5
Loyalty to NCA@T is the most important criteria for a head coach at this time. The program is in dire straits right now and a BIG name coach with a BIG salary will not straighten out the situation. Giving an A@T person like Rags a two yr. contract with a three yr possible extension and get this program back on solid footing would be a great idea. If after 2 yrs the team is not showing improvement, then re-evaluate and make another move. But, throwing money at the program and getting someone who does not know NC and does not RECRUIT NC talent then your just "pissing" inthe wind. Rags can and would do anything he could to help NCA@T!!
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 5, 2008 13:18:24 GMT -5
Loyalty to NCA@T is the most important criteria for a head coach at this time. The program is in dire straits right now and a BIG name coach with a BIG salary will not straighten out the situation. Giving an A@T person like Rags a two yr. contract with a three yr possible extension and get this program back on solid footing would be a great idea. If after 2 yrs the team is not showing improvement, then re-evaluate and make another move. But, throwing money at the program and getting someone who does not know NC and does not RECRUIT NC talent then your just "pissing" inthe wind. Rags can and would do anything he could to help NCA@T!! george small is an a&t alum and former aggie football player just like rags was. small was loyal too, but all loyalty got us was 2 consecutive 3-8 seasons. and i don't want to hear that small won the meac championship in his first year because he did it with bill hayes' recruits. small's recruiting and coaching got us 2 consecutive 3-8 seasons...
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Post by DOOMS on Dec 5, 2008 13:20:30 GMT -5
Personality-wise those two are night and day.
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Post by wart on Dec 5, 2008 14:58:51 GMT -5
Someone better realize that as much as we love A&T and FB, the job is not a respected one now. Coaches with winning records coming to the Aggies for less money, losing attitude, and recruiting problems budget,etc,etc, you're kidding yourself. Loyalty, dedication, and an attitude to turn this program around may be the best answer. Until you have been in those shoes don't even think about some of the folks your listing.
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Post by aggiejazz on Dec 5, 2008 16:41:58 GMT -5
Well, it is going to be awhile before we know who the coach will be. The job is posted. I will come back to this discussion in January 2009.
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Post by wart on Dec 5, 2008 18:53:18 GMT -5
So what if the job is posted. If Wheels wants someone I'd say he'll make a decision and not call any of us for our opinion. If he waits 'til January then I believe he has someone in mind and I sincerely hope it's the correct call. One more thing, assistant coaches as well as athletes make a head coach look really good. Please tell me he will bring in assistants that know NC and can deliver talent.
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Post by oleballcoach on Dec 5, 2008 22:20:36 GMT -5
Is knowing NC really the most important factor? I mean Rod Brodway didn't "know" Louisiana when he came to Grambling. Pete Richardson did not "KNOW" Louisiana before going to Southern.
Quick question: If A&T hires a coach who is not from NC, he brings in TALENTED players from other places, and they are successful with a roster that is say only 50% NC players...would you be unhappy?
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Post by wart on Dec 6, 2008 9:52:27 GMT -5
My point is, with a NC player you get two for one as far as scholarship money. Only 5 or 6 out of state can be counted as in state at the admin discression. Broadway and Richardson were not going into programs that were decimated with poor coaching and recruiting. I'll be happy with anyone who will bring discipline and pride back to the Aggies.
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Post by DECKS on Dec 6, 2008 10:16:39 GMT -5
Wasn't George Small hired in late December or early January? He didn't seem to have a problem coming in and winning a MEAC championship with what was on hand. Conversely, Dee Todd hired Fobbs in about 2 weeks and look where it got us. There will be plenty of good recruits available, even after signing day. Al Lavan didn't sign most of his first two classes at DSU until after signing day and look what he's done. It's better to take our time and get it right!
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 6, 2008 10:28:30 GMT -5
Someone better realize that as much as we love A&T and FB, the job is not a respected one now. Coaches with winning records coming to the Aggies for less money, losing attitude, and recruiting problems budget,etc,etc, you're kidding yourself. Loyalty, dedication, and an attitude to turn this program around may be the best answer. Until you have been in those shoes don't even think about some of the folks your listing. wart, you're 100% WRONG! where do you get your information from? our recent football record may not be respected but the head coach's job is. a&t's head football coach's job is one of the most attractive jobs in all of black college football. it wouldn't be a stretch to state that it's one of the top 5 or 6 jobs in black college football. otherwise it would not attract head coaches from schools such as grambling or tennessee state. i'm sure wheels has absolutely no shortage of resume's to consider for our head coach job...
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Post by wart on Dec 6, 2008 14:24:08 GMT -5
1) Decks, Coach Small won the first year with Coach Hayes players, and after that...... 2)A&T is respected but without the rose colored glasses I still would ? a head coach leaving a winning program to come here at this point. Are you asumming those Head Coaches have applied or do you know for sure? I also believe there are a lot of applicants, but are they the ones on the board or coaches looking for a school that if you win five games you are hero!!
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