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Post by viteblufifall80 on Nov 23, 2007 14:10:13 GMT -5
Good to see I am not alone, it is clear the $$ are not in place to buy a "fruit fly a wife beater" ( I believe my uncle called it a wrestling jacket or tee shirt), so we must stay the course, just realty, so looks like I will have someone- beside my & family in the reserve section in the fall, it would be nice to know from the coach what can we do right now to help him, this is a busy time with high school playoff and such
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Post by jaffejoffa on Nov 23, 2007 14:20:04 GMT -5
AggieChamp & Gator & Viteblufifall80 ? Did yall have a side of crack with your turkey yesterday ?! If you seriously think that after seeing this guy coach for two years, that there is any glimmer of hope or optimism in his coaching ability, then I seriously doubt you could pass a drug test right now...
What excuses do you have for losing games that we were clearly more talented, and had the lead late in the game ?! THe guys that we played this year were not first year players and had alot of on the field experience..
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Post by viteblufifall80 on Nov 23, 2007 14:35:10 GMT -5
I have yet to say if he will win or lose, however time will tell, at a minimum I feel he will establish a base of student athletes that we can then (when we can afford it) hire another coach, I don't have great football knowledge to critique whether he can coach or not, I don't know if having the player in the right position to make the play or is he responsible for making the play, I did see Woody Hayes drop the mad clothes line on a kid but I think he got fired, my thought and others is simply play this situation out, our program won't die unless we exceed PVSU record for which we have a 40 game cushion, it would not hurt to gather some facts either or just plain reading is fundamental and a drug free activity last I checked,
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Post by jaffejoffa on Nov 23, 2007 14:43:11 GMT -5
So as long as we dont suprass PV's losing streak, you'll be satisfied? We are going to get to the point where having him as coach will affect alumni giving, student interest, and ticket sales that will rival Dudley. I was joking at first, but dude, you really might be on that pipe'...
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Post by Gator on Nov 23, 2007 15:17:13 GMT -5
Jaffe,
I don't smoke crack, I smoke quality cigars. What about you? I sent this note to Fobbs today:
O-line no longer out of line Adam Thompson
Nov 22, 2007 12:07 am
New Bern began the season with numerous touchdowns being called back. The reason was too many penalties.
The problem was mainly on the offensive line. Whether it would be a holding penalty or false start call, the Bears’ linemen were in the middle.
“I think that had a lot to do with discipline,” said senior guard Quan Moseley. “We weren’t very disciplined at the beginning of the season. Now we are putting it together.”
After every penalty on the line, the Bears’ linemen would give each a chest bump — telling one another they need to wake up.
The Bears offensive line has woken up into one of the best lines in Eastern North Carolina. The offensive line has also battled through some adversity. In the season finale against J.H. Rose, New Bern lost senior right tackle Donovan Burke to injury.
Burke, listed at 6-foot-2, 285 pounds, is New Bern’s biggest player and started every game.
“It was a big loss,” said guard Ogi Paluga. “He was a big part of the offensive line, but we can’t linger on that. We have got to have people step up and keep playing on.”
The Bears had just one week to find a replacement for Burke, before their first playoff game against Sanderson.
They had to find a strong combination that will help New Bern win.
Fortunately for New Bern coach Bobby Curlings, he had a senior dominated offensive line that could provide leadership.
Following Burke’s injury, Moseley moved from tackle to guard, senior Josh Cayton played guard, junior Cameron Ray was shifted from center to tackle and senior Lucas Melton was inserted at tackle. Senior Ogi Paluga manned the other guard position.
Jacquinn Moore, Bojan Paluga and Ben Matau have also contributed in a reserve role.
The results were two playoff wins over Sanderson and Athens Drive.
“It is pretty senior dominated,” Curlings said. “Ogi and Quan have been playing on varsity since they were sophomores, so they have been around, had their experience and are leading by example.”
They are entering the third round of the 4-AA state playoffs against Millbrook on Friday.
The good thing about having an experienced offensive line is that they remember the previous year. The Bears are using their 49-12 loss to Cary a year ago as motivation. The offensive line will be a big key in determining the outcome of every game.
Everybody has to keep their mind focused on one thing after losing to Cary last year,” Paluga said. “We don’t want to linger on the past. Last year I don’t think the leadership wasn’t there. I think leadership is here this year and we are going to keep it moving.”
All year, the line was responsible for an explosive offensive. They paved the way for quarterback Brett Williams to 1,283 yards and 13 touchdowns and throw for 1,228 yards. They have also helped out by making holes for Vince McDuffie to rack up his 704 yards on the ground and 11 touchdowns and Josh Moore adding 542 yards rushing.
“Once a running back scores, we smile and give each other a chest bump and high-five,” Paluga said. “That’s always good when one of our backs or quarterback has over a 100 yards rushing. That is what we take pride in.”
We need to flood the athletec office with potential recruits, and areas to recruit. We all have to do our part.
Joffa get on board, being a critic right now doesn't help us at all. If you're not bringing anything to the table, you might as well be quite. My thoughts are still the same, the game is played on the field. Just watch the Delaware vs. Del State game. A conference champ down by 30 at the end of the first half.
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Post by aggiechamp on Nov 23, 2007 16:22:05 GMT -5
I don't do drugs. I can read. Look at the Howard game. Look at time of possession. Anytime your defense is on the field more than half the game you are subject to collapse on defense and lose games in the late stages of games. What causes this---lack of depth and lack of strength. How do you get depth and strength. You get older and you have more experienced players. Think about the reason for red shirting players. We are not a senior laden team. We still have a large corp of freshmen, juniors and sophmores. Next year we will be a senior laden team and we should win.
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Post by aggiechamp on Nov 23, 2007 16:23:39 GMT -5
By the way, I don't smoke or drink either.
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Post by viteblufifall80 on Nov 23, 2007 16:27:36 GMT -5
big up, now back to the lab, unless you wish to turn in your degree, you are an Aggie, only something other than that would even think to play your own school short, even when we are down, I guess Fobbs not gettin canned - kinda got yah on the red-eye, you will get better or maybe even well (in case you haven't heard only a select few really know), but support will be the right thing to do (from Aggie 101), Just to bring you up to speed- we are 0-22 or 27, don't waste that valuable in-tell on sucker plays, here is one you can kinda get the nact from, - " yo, Gator do you have a list of what we are shopping for, obviously D & O Line, lb and secondary, I know speed is always good regardless of position, I have some connect on the 1 & 2 A (has produced some starters in the past) level down east, also knows the Pop of the coach at west craven, they typically have a good program and he knows lots of people down east, just give me a number at what position, I can do some checking around, do the same with that email"- That was a good simple approach to provide the office with info or in-tel, another great (Aggie) idea. I am up to speed on the academic requirements and can get in touch with most of the guidance counselors with the schools.
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Post by Gator on Nov 23, 2007 16:48:06 GMT -5
West Craven has a decent qb and receiver tandem. Also, both WC and NB have solid programs. Weight training begins at the middle school level. ECU currently has about 5 kids starting on both offense and defense. My homeboy/frat is an assistant on the NB staff. The fullback/LB for NB is headed to D1.
Just spoke to my homeboy, he says the DL coach has already been down to NB. Finally, says they're looking at 2 or 3 players. It's all about grades!
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Post by jaffejoffa on Nov 23, 2007 20:29:08 GMT -5
Gator, so you mean to tell me that a full time college coach, who makes 165K a year, will be humble enough to accept the help of people who buy tickets to the game ? In a perfect world, it'd be great if Fobbs would follow every single lead given to him on a player, but the fact remains that football coaches are among the most bigheaded, stubborn people on thhe planet and want things done their way, or no way at all. We may be able to get the talent in, but will not win if we can't develop or coach players up.
On another note, we are not any younger than any other team in the conference. All of the other MEAC teams will be reloading, recruiting, and getting better in the off season. We will not win simply by osmosis or another year passing. Just like our players get older, so do the other programs players.
If you want to know where your note that you sent Fobbs went, check the dumpster on Monday morning. Can you imagine him telling Rob Daniels , "Yea, we signed a couple kids after a dude off the internet tipped us off to some talent down there".... If football is your full time job, you should know virtually every single head coach, program, and decent athlete in your state. Each assistant has a specefic geography, so theres no excuse not to know about a decent program. Anyone who has ever followed football in NC, knows that WC, New Bern etc. always produce quality athletes. These clowns came in and tried to recruit out of Louisiana and Mississippi, then want to complain about resources and budget. There is just as much talent at the schools across NC, SC, VA.
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Post by aggie75 on Nov 23, 2007 21:09:33 GMT -5
Last year I gave Fobbs a lead about a player and a high school coach who was a former aggie player. He contacted them both immediately, and also called to thank me.
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Post by Gator on Nov 23, 2007 21:13:39 GMT -5
Jaffe,
All we are saying is, he's here and he's going to be for another here for another year or two. We mights as well face it and get on board. We need all the help we can get. I think I speak for a lot of us when I say, arguing and debating him as a coach is not going to get us anywhere. Regardless of what you know or don't know, we can't quit on this program, regardless of who's in charge. As for my notes and suggestions, deaf ears or not, deep down inside, I know I did something to help the program.
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Post by jaffejoffa on Nov 24, 2007 10:02:47 GMT -5
Gator, I know that you mean well, but the reality is, is that I dont think that the current coach that we have is really going to give fans considerations/monday morning quarterback calls too much stock. No matter how you look at it, its like you're telling someone how to do their job. I know you get a kick out of feeling like part of the program and offering tips, and insights, and I think thats noble and the right thing to do. I cant imagine how many calls Fobbs and coaches around the country get from people whose nephews, cousins, sons, next door neighbor, co-workers etc. kids have talent and are unsigned. I'm not quitting on the program, but Fobbs needs to be making 5-7 sales calls daily in person at NC high schools on a daily basis. High school coaches around teh state dont think to fondly of him.
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Post by viteblufifall80 on Nov 25, 2007 14:56:36 GMT -5
Joffa, I stand with Gator, maybe the tips will get thrown in the garbage, if you has someone and staff, and the dough, let get to it, otherwise do we boycott our team, I didn't when BB went 1 and change, so if we are to do anything positive other than what Gator is doing, talk will not help but so much, I can't comment on the man's coaching skills, based on his record it appears he can't coach so if he won the close games does that make him better. If you look at DSU this year didn't have the most talent or to me the best team in the conference but it appears that coaching decisions in all of the close games made the difference. I feel NSU could have spread the field and gave Del. a better game. McBride didn't even impress the Aggies, they got blanked but take away two major miscues, should a poorly coach team even be in a game with DSU if they are truly an unbeaten team and the best in the MEAC. So I am finish with the Monday am QB talk, I think we have had our share, look forward to meeting everyone and working together as we take the 365 day ride with Aggie Football, it should be interesting
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