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Post by DOOMS on Mar 14, 2007 7:43:59 GMT -5
So why would he show the kid to Butch Beard?
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Mar 14, 2007 8:19:53 GMT -5
There was a rumor several seasons ago or last season about a player at LI that Eaves either recruited or had an interest in. Is it possible that this is the same player?
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Mar 14, 2007 8:23:49 GMT -5
Morgan States' bad mother--shut your mouth Boubacar Coly F 6-9 Jr. Ziguinchor, Senegal/Laurinburg Institute I don't think the LI coach showed him to Eaves. I was there in Raleigh a couple of years ago when the LI coach brought a bunch of stiffs to a local gym to workout for Eaves and other college coaches. These guys were not on the Prep team but on the B and C high school teams, also attending was UNC-G and Campbell coaches. This kid signed and went to Xavier. Stayed there 3 yrs. graduated in 3 yrs. Went to Morgan as a grad student with a yr. of eligibility remaining. |
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Post by truthseeker on Mar 14, 2007 19:13:17 GMT -5
i think the coaching staff has begun to build a nice program... on a $12,000 recuiting budget!! every coach we have fired regardless of the sport... all have one thing in common... they all believe that if the program had been funded properly... they could have been successful... and the sad part is ... they are probably right!!! the big difference between a hbcu and a major school is that the coach at a major school is going to have all the resources available for him to be successful.... even when it is apparent he can't get the job done and is going to be fired... he still has all the resources available to him!! at hbcus when the ad has decided the coach will be fired... they start sabotaging their program!! eaves is a prime example.... his recuiting budget isn't that low because the department was scrapped for cash... it's that low because someone was trying to show him the door!!! and damn...!!!.... he still put a competative team on the court !!! if the ad treated mens bball like she is treating fobbs... we would probably have those 6-9 twin towers by now!!
famu's ad told gillespie that for every $300,000 they got in guaranty games he could keep $150,000 for recruiting and other expences..... eaves on the other hand has no idea where all the guaranty money he brings in goes.... and if you ask someone about it you get an answer of.... " well it goes into the general fund." my next question would be... " well tell me in general how that is going to help bball get better?" no one can answer that.... so before i belittle our coaches... i try to understand what it's like at a&t.... and try to understand what it's like to be a coach who want's to excell at a&t....
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Post by numberonebrave on Mar 16, 2007 21:57:23 GMT -5
How much is Fobbs' recruiting budget? I can not believe that you want them to be the same...You have twin towers ( Porter and Webster) send them to THE BIG MAN CAMP and watch them improve
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Post by Bornthrilla on Mar 16, 2007 22:35:25 GMT -5
Dude, do you have any type of proof to support these statements?
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Mar 16, 2007 22:39:49 GMT -5
How much is Fobbs' recruiting budget? I can not believe that you want them to be the same...You have twin towers ( Porter and Webster) send them to THE BIG MAN CAMP and watch them improve Thank ya Lordy. There is a voice of reason. Big man camp at Georgetown, huh. Will never happen. Eaves apparently believes that he can coach them up. In his four years at the helm, Eaves has not produced a quality big man yet. So I look for the same mediocrity next year from his big men. Oh, how I hope he proves me wrong. Did the AD, Associate AD or some administrator share with some members on this board the expenditures/budget for athletics at A&T? Some members on this board seem to know the exact amounts of how much is allocated for each line item for each sport. Well the sports that are important to them. I know that this is public information, but it can be very difficult to get ones hands on public information. So, how do we know all of these figures? What or who is the source?   |
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Post by da heretic on Mar 17, 2007 10:39:06 GMT -5
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"I can not believe that you want them (recruiting budgets) to be the same..."
Why not? Some folks posted that UNC's recruiting budget for b-ball exceeds A&T entire basketball expenditure. Of course, they have billionaire and millionaire alumni bankrollin their whole athletic dept., but there has to be more money for men's basketball recruiting than a $12,000 stipend.
I just think there's a helluva lot more potential in men's b-ball makin some national hay than our football program; therefore, Eaves's grade, back on topic, should at least be a B+, imho.
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Post by Aggie77 on Mar 17, 2007 20:52:43 GMT -5
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Post by Bornthrilla on Mar 18, 2007 9:04:33 GMT -5
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Post by aggiejazz on Mar 18, 2007 13:21:11 GMT -5
The 2006 recruiting expenses of $47,325 stated on the website is the total amount of all men's sports at A&T.
A&T spends 8 percent of the athletic budget on men's basketball. Almost dead last of the 331 Division 1 men's basketball program. Yet, A&T men's basketball program returns 80 cents on the dollar while the other sport programs don't even return 50 cents on the dollar. Davidson College spend 19 percent of their budget on men's basketball.
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Post by Maxell on Mar 18, 2007 15:26:23 GMT -5
It's not just about percentages, it's about the absolute dollars. The kicker is this: Delaware State, Winthrop, Butler and Davidson are mid-majors that all spent $1.2 - 1.5 million on basketball. Their combined record is 107-28.
A&T spent $622,000. But before we start to feel sorry for ourselves, FAMU only spent $345,000. Niagara (who beat FAMU) spent $998,000.
BOTTOMLINE: To CONSISTENTLY be competitive, it looks like we've got to spend at least $1 million on men's basketball.
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Post by truthseeker on Mar 19, 2007 15:59:03 GMT -5
Re: What grade would you give Eaves this year?
« Reply #64 on Mar 16, 2007, 9:57pm »
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"How much is Fobbs' recruiting budget? I can not believe that you want them to be the same...You have twin towers ( Porter and Webster) send them to THE BIG MAN CAMP and watch them improve"
i'm not saying cut football's budget.... fobbs deserves a chance to be successful.... but it's easy to see bball has done more with less support!! they should have a WHOLE LOT more money to recruit with.... their budget should be in the $1,000,000 range as stated by maxwell... at this stage bball deserves the "prima donna" treatment... they earned it!!! now football has to get out there and earn respect!!
porter & webster are projects.... i see potential in both.... porter gave us solid minutes the latter part of the season... it all depends on how good THEY want to be... the formula to success is HARD WORK... bottem line!! webster has had bad luck... it would be nice to see him healthy because i've seen the young man run around campus... and he runs like a deer!!!
the type of "book ends" i'm talking about though... are the kids who are already developed like hansbrough & wright of unc... the type kids everyone wants to see here... but we don't have the money to donate to aau charity funds & we don't have the recuiting budget to build relationships!!! even aau coaches with a&t ties will not give us a shot at one of their blue chippers... but they will call the coach about a player you will need to develop...
when was the last time "T" got a blue chipper out of dudley???.... even lew hudson went to the univ. of minnesota!!!
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Post by truthseeker on Mar 19, 2007 19:27:28 GMT -5
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Quote:at hbcus when the ad has decided the coach will be fired... they start sabotaging their program!! eaves is a prime example.... his recuiting budget isn't that low because the department was scrapped for cash... it's that low because someone was trying to show him the door!!! and damn...!!!.... he still put a competative team on the court !!! if the ad treated mens bball like she is treating fobbs... we would probably have those 6-9 twin towers by now!!
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"Dude, do you have any type of proof to support these statements?"
what proof do you need that you can't already figure out!... if you are asking if i may know something that is not made public... the answer is yes...
people don't understand how much of a financial hit the ath. dept. took when small was fired... a firing that wasn't called for... we could have been 8-3 just as easily as 3-8.... but the lynch mob couldn't see that!!! small and his staff were not that far off.... an increased recruiting budget could have been all they needed.... money for summer school definitely.... but to start all over???
the lynch mobs key phrase was " hire a coach with D-I experience"..... but we've always had coaches with D-I experience... they never had D-I type support... nor have we had D-I type decision making lately...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Mar 19, 2007 21:41:23 GMT -5
Ok, so the answer to that question is no, you don't have any proof. You are just talking.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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