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Post by The Professor on May 18, 2024 19:56:12 GMT -5
My bad. I say Bookface instead of Facebook. Seems you don't know/understand the power of social media. And I didn't just say Bookface/Facebook. Also, it seems you don't understand the loss of credibility, loss of trust, etc. impacts as well as the impacts to other HBCUs. i mean, which of these two "negative" famu incidents do you consider more "damaging"? a member of the band "died" as a result of hazing? or a botched $237 million donation? which of the two do you think damaged famu's reputation the most? i say that the "death" of a student far outweighs the gravity of a botched donation. took a very long time for famu to overcome the death of a band member, just as it took a very long time for a&t to overcome the death of a track team member. but no one talks about the famu band member hazing incident anymore, just like no one talks about a&t's track team member's death anymore. so i honestly don't see how famu's botched donation will have more of a lasting impact than the death of a student... Donation. We just haven't seen the long term effects. Their credibility is shot at the moment. Robert Champion died 2011 and band was suspended for 18 months. Director fired. Famu marched almost 400 when they came back and hasn't looked back.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 19, 2024 16:53:49 GMT -5
i mean, which of these two "negative" famu incidents do you consider more "damaging"? a member of the band "died" as a result of hazing? or a botched $237 million donation? which of the two do you think damaged famu's reputation the most? i say that the "death" of a student far outweighs the gravity of a botched donation. took a very long time for famu to overcome the death of a band member, just as it took a very long time for a&t to overcome the death of a track team member. but no one talks about the famu band member hazing incident anymore, just like no one talks about a&t's track team member's death anymore. so i honestly don't see how famu's botched donation will have more of a lasting impact than the death of a student... Donation. We just haven't seen the long term effects. Their credibility is shot at the moment. , Robert Champion died 2011 and band was suspended for 18 months. Director fired. Famu marched almost 400 when they came back and hasn't looked back. i don't understand your "moral values", if you have any. its "disgraceful" to value a botched donation (bogus money) over the death of a student. if you think a botched donation (bogus money) will damage famu more than the death of a student, then i don't know what world you grew up on. i'm totally "shocked" that ANYBODY would think that the life and death of a student is less important than bogus money and that bogus money will damage famu more, just totally "mind boggling"...
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Post by outsidethinker on May 19, 2024 17:22:50 GMT -5
Donation. We just haven't seen the long term effects. Their credibility is shot at the moment. , Robert Champion died 2011 and band was suspended for 18 months. Director fired. Famu marched almost 400 when they came back and hasn't looked back. i don't understand your "moral values", if you have any. its "disgraceful" to value a botched donation (bogus money) over the death of a student. if you think a botched donation (bogus money) will damage famu more than the death of a student, then i don't know what world you grew up on. i'm totally "shocked" that ANYBODY would think that the life and death of a student is less important than bogus money and that bogus money will damage famu more, just totally "mind boggling"... You're both right, It's Famu lol. They'll survive this conflict by generating 3 new public issues before September. They operate well as a reality TV series. They continue to maintain their academic reputation and Florida culture. If the Football team remains SWAC strong and keep the band numbers up all will be forgotten. This story made national news just like the "Florida A&M coach suspends football activities after unauthorized music video shot inside locker room" story" did. Enjoy the summer, clown Famu and get ready for the next headline. They're always consistent lol.
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Post by The Professor on May 20, 2024 8:19:27 GMT -5
Donation. We just haven't seen the long term effects. Their credibility is shot at the moment. , Robert Champion died 2011 and band was suspended for 18 months. Director fired. Famu marched almost 400 when they came back and hasn't looked back. i don't understand your "moral values", if you have any. its "disgraceful" to value a botched donation (bogus money) over the death of a student. if you think a botched donation (bogus money) will damage famu more than the death of a student, then i don't know what world you grew up on. i'm totally "shocked" that ANYBODY would think that the life and death of a student is less important than bogus money and that bogus money will damage famu more, just totally "mind boggling"... My moral values. Hmm. Yea imma walk away from this conversation. Be well
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Post by marchingband1969 on May 20, 2024 17:31:31 GMT -5
i don't understand your "moral values", if you have any. its "disgraceful" to value a botched donation (bogus money) over the death of a student. if you think a botched donation (bogus money) will damage famu more than the death of a student, then i don't know what world you grew up on. i'm totally "shocked" that ANYBODY would think that the life and death of a student is less important than bogus money and that bogus money will damage famu more, just totally "mind boggling"... You're both right, It's Famu lol. They'll survive this conflict by generating 3 new public issues before September. They operate well as a reality TV series. They continue to maintain their academic reputation and Florida culture. If the Football team remains SWAC strong and keep the band numbers up all will be forgotten. This story made national news just like the "Florida A&M coach suspends football activities after unauthorized music video shot inside locker room" story" did. Enjoy the summer, clown Famu and get ready for the next headline. They're always consistent lol. I agree... FAMU is truly like a TV reality show. Just when you think you've seen them do the dumbest sh*t, they find another way to do something dumber! But they believe that even "bad" publicity" is "good" publicity... if you spin it the right way! When all the dust settles, they will come back and spin this screwup into something positive. So, as long as their football team wins the SWAC and the Band stays big, FAMU will be okay.
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Post by DOOMS on Jun 20, 2024 8:40:51 GMT -5
I hadn't heard sheeet else about this until yesterday. I found the way it was mentioned hilarious and figured I'd share. My homepeoples from T have a daughter who is headed to FAMU in the fall. I was talking to her father and he said although they wanted her to go to T, FAMU is giving her a full ride. He also said that FAMU had the best facilities and dorms and things out of all the schools they visited, which included Arizona State and Uconn. I was like damn! With a wink he said yeah, FAMU got a lot of money, both real money and fake money ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/rofl.png)
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Post by codeblu78 on Jun 20, 2024 15:01:20 GMT -5
I hadn't heard sheeet else about this until yesterday. I found the way it was mentioned hilarious and figured I'd share. My homepeoples from T have a daughter who is headed to FAMU in the fall. I was talking to her father and he said although they wanted her to go to T, FAMU is giving her a full ride. He also said that FAMU had the best facilities and dorms and things out of all the schools they visited, which included Arizona State and Uconn. I was like damn! With a wink he said yeah, FAMU got a lot of money, both real money and fake money ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/rofl.png) Could you imagine if A&T was the only state supported HBCU in NC?
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Jun 21, 2024 8:54:01 GMT -5
I hadn't heard sheeet else about this until yesterday. I found the way it was mentioned hilarious and figured I'd share. My homepeoples from T have a daughter who is headed to FAMU in the fall. I was talking to her father and he said although they wanted her to go to T, FAMU is giving her a full ride. He also said that FAMU had the best facilities and dorms and things out of all the schools they visited, which included Arizona State and Uconn. I was like damn! With a wink he said yeah, FAMU got a lot of money, both real money and fake money ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/rofl.png) Could you imagine if A&T was the only state supported HBCU in NC? Unimaginable…the enrollment alone. That said, I like that NC has so many state supported HBCUs. There’s a lil something for everyone so a student can find the right fit. I also like how each school is trying to step up its academics and facilities. We truly have a special situation here in NC compared to other southern states like SC, Ga, or Fl.
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Post by aggiechampd on Jun 23, 2024 22:12:33 GMT -5
I hadn't heard sheeet else about this until yesterday. I found the way it was mentioned hilarious and figured I'd share. My homepeoples from T have a daughter who is headed to FAMU in the fall. I was talking to her father and he said although they wanted her to go to T, FAMU is giving her a full ride. He also said that FAMU had the best facilities and dorms and things out of all the schools they visited, which included Arizona State and Uconn. I was like damn! With a wink he said yeah, FAMU got a lot of money, both real money and fake money ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/rofl.png) It doesn't shock me that FAMU has better facilities than UConn... I went to UConn for the game against Jackson State in March...and let me say...the best part of the campus is the athletic facilities...everything else wasn't impressive at all...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 12, 2024 10:46:17 GMT -5
In today’s fast paced society there’s almost no such thing as “irreclaimable harm.” It’ll be forgotten within six months.
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Post by DOOMS on Jul 12, 2024 12:09:31 GMT -5
I was expecting that within a week after it happened. I wonder what took so long.
In any event this might bring it back up in the news cycle for the weekend, but no irreclaimable harm has been done to the university.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 12, 2024 12:26:49 GMT -5
but no irreclaimable harm has been done to the university. The chancellor, who was in good standing prior to the donation scandal, was forced to resign. How is that not harm being done to the university? They just lost their top leader over some foolishness. That incident already has had a major impact to the school's reputation.
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Post by DOOMS on Jul 12, 2024 13:11:51 GMT -5
This is the post my quote was in response to: This morning Victor Blackwell did a story on CNN about FAMU's phantom gift presented at their commencement May 5th. The 30 year old donor was sitting in the audience dressed in cap and gown, presented the president with the mock check for millions. Problem is young man was not vetted or investigated. Blackwell had one of the influential BOT members on the show. He asked him, if there are plans to fire the President as well as the person heading the University Development office. He said that a meeting of the board is planned for next week. He is hoping that this does not do irreclaimable harm to the university 's brand.Imo it hasn't. In your opinion I guess it has. So be it. I can remember us going through chancellors every year for a minute. We seem to be doing ok. Stuff happens. Like I posted before, I have close friends who are Ayantee grads who are sending their child to FAMU in like a couple of weeks. They don't give two shits. I think ultimately if you want to hang onto the narrative that FAMU is somehow taking a hit they can never come back from as a result of this then that's where you'll stand. I just don't see it, and until today hadn't heard anything about it outside what I brought up on this thread about a month ago.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 12, 2024 13:50:51 GMT -5
Based on your metrics, what is an incident that could provide irreclaimable harm to an university?
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jul 12, 2024 14:17:15 GMT -5
but no irreclaimable harm has been done to the university. The chancellor, who was in good standing prior to the donation scandal, was forced to resign. How is that not harm being done to the university? They just lost their top leader over some foolishness. That incident already has had a major impact to the school's reputation. If that happened to A&T, the haters would be lining up on social media to bury us but not FAMU! It's like they have been a clown show for so long that one more f*ck up isn't a big deal. Sure, the President was fired, that's nothing new. They have a long track record of hiring and firing staff members. If this had happened at A&T, our alumni would have been in the street with torches and pitchforks but at FAMU, it's no big deal. Hey, they are Celebration Bowl Champions so what's the big deal. It's not like they lost their head football coach.
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