A&T-roy
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Post by A&T-roy on Nov 20, 2023 18:24:31 GMT -5
I see it as we're doing something different. As good as our 2014-2019 teams were, I believe they would have had difficulty in the CAA. are you serious! those teams beat multiple "fbs" teams! those teams beat a "top 5" ranked fcs team (jacksonville state) in their home territory. all of those upsets came "on the road". yet, you think those 2014-2019 aggie teams would've had difficulty in this year's caa? absolutely not! with raynard/carter as our qb's and cohen/cartwright as our rb's? dude, pub-leeeze. i promise you, coach broadway or yes, even coach wash would've had a better season with the exact same players that coach brown had this season (without our players that transferred). clearly, nobody would've been running the ball down our throats "all season long" like this season. i mean, ain't no way in hail coach broadway or coach wash would've finished this season 1-10 with the exact same players and anybody who disputes that "needs their head examined"... I wasn't talking about this year. I was talking about during those same years. And CAA teams also beat FBS teams and highly ranked FCS teams. You do remember JMU was in the CAA, right?
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Post by aggieswag on Nov 20, 2023 18:24:52 GMT -5
Can't be posted on this site! This is a pattern .. not saying it’s not true but every time we make a decision we come up with “there were personnel matters we can’t discuss” well ok but if you knew you had to obliterate the basketball program then you should have taken that into account when you made the conscious decision to obliterate the football program. They know the effects of the transfer portal which is why they waited to fire the basketball coach until classes started. They know everyone would leave. So they should have know the same effect would take place in football. But even that was done so bad we have two years of a mass exit instead of 1. Hindsight is 20:20 but the malpractice here is the lack of foresight.
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Post by A&T-roy on Nov 20, 2023 18:26:54 GMT -5
Oh, and we didn't come in last in the CAA! We did finish "tied" for last place in the CAA similarly that there was a 3-way tie for 1st place. I guess the CAA does not have any tiebreaker rules. Our 1 OOC win puts us ahead of Stonybrook.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 20, 2023 18:27:32 GMT -5
Understood...but you can't compare Malcolm Bell...the MEAC POY runner up to Tarik...to a kid that wasn't even on the roster at Richmond prior to our game. They literally called him out of class to play against us. when you can't pass the football, all a team has to do is "stack the box" and that's exactly what richmond did. i attended that game "in person" and saw it with my own eyes. they knew we didn't have a qb who could pass the football under pressure, so they put 7 or 8 in the box for the entire game which literally "bottled up" cohen. also, richmond qb for that day "was" on the roster but they had intended to redshirt him. you make it sound like dude didn't even "suit up" all season long which isn't true. he essentially did exactly what coach brown forced alston hooker to do and that is practice all season long without playing in any games until the final game. that ain't the same as " not being on the roster"...
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Post by dc93aggie on Nov 20, 2023 18:27:35 GMT -5
Can't be posted on this site! This is a pattern .. not saying it’s not true but every time we make a decision we come up with “there were personnel matters we can’t discuss” well ok but if you knew you had to obliterate the basketball program then you should have taken that into account when you made the conscious decision to obliterate the football program. They know the effects of the transfer portal which is why they waited to fire the basketball coach until classes started. They know everyone would leave. So they should have know the same effect would take place in football. But even that was done so bad we have two years of a mass exit instead of 1. Hindsight is 20:20 but the malpractice here is the lack of foresight. That statement is true...but it's also fact that the offense that took place with said coach can't be posted on this site. That's why the University moved so swiftly.
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Post by A&T-roy on Nov 20, 2023 18:30:43 GMT -5
Can't be posted on this site! This is a pattern .. not saying it’s not true but every time we make a decision we come up with “there were personnel matters we can’t discuss” well ok but if you knew you had to obliterate the basketball program then you should have taken that into account when you made the conscious decision to obliterate the football program. They know the effects of the transfer portal which is why they waited to fire the basketball coach until classes started. They know everyone would leave. So they should have know the same effect would take place in football. But even that was done so bad we have two years of a mass exit instead of 1. Hindsight is 20:20 but the malpractice here is the lack of foresight. Again, there was no "conscious decision" to "obliterate" anything.
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Post by dc93aggie on Nov 20, 2023 18:33:06 GMT -5
when you can't pass the football, all a team has to do is "stack the box" and that's exactly what richmond did. i attended that game "in person" and saw it with my own eyes. they knew we didn't have a qb who could pass the football under pressure, so they put 7 or 8 in the box for the entire game which literally "bottled up" cohen. also, richmond qb for that day "was" on the roster but they had intended to redshirt him. you make it sound like dude didn't even "suit up" all season long which isn't true. he essentially did exactly what coach brown forced alston hooker to do and that is practice all season long without playing in any games until the final game. that ain't the same as " not being on the roster"... You're right Oleschool...Poor choice of words on my part...but the kid had gotten no run all year...and they boatraced us, because they were better than we were. And we had just walked through the MEAC with the exception of Central that year. Which goes back to the original point on competition.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 20, 2023 18:33:16 GMT -5
are you serious! those teams beat multiple "fbs" teams! those teams beat a "top 5" ranked fcs team (jacksonville state) in their home territory. all of those upsets came "on the road". yet, you think those 2014-2019 aggie teams would've had difficulty in this year's caa? absolutely not! with raynard/carter as our qb's and cohen/cartwright as our rb's? dude, pub-leeeze. i promise you, coach broadway or yes, even coach wash would've had a better season with the exact same players that coach brown had this season (without our players that transferred). clearly, nobody would've been running the ball down our throats "all season long" like this season. i mean, ain't no way in hail coach broadway or coach wash would've finished this season 1-10 with the exact same players and anybody who disputes that "needs their head examined"... I wasn't talking about this year. I was talking about during those same years. And CAA teams also beat FBS teams and highly ranked FCS teams. You do remember JMU was in the CAA, right? that's an unfair comparison. compare those teams to "this year's caa", coach brown didn't have compete against the teams that were in the caa during those years. there was no bryant, or campbell, or monmouth, or hampton. we "beat" elon during those broadway and washington years, so clearly we wouldn't have loss all of our caa games even if we'd competed in the caa during those 2014-2019 seasons...
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Post by planoaggie on Nov 20, 2023 18:33:42 GMT -5
We did finish "tied" for last place in the CAA similarly that there was a 3-way tie for 1st place. I guess the CAA does not have any tiebreaker rules. Our 1 OOC win puts us ahead of Stonybrook. Rankings in the CAA is based on conference wins only. I do believe we are better than Stony Brook.
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Post by A&T-roy on Nov 20, 2023 18:43:15 GMT -5
I wasn't talking about this year. I was talking about during those same years. And CAA teams also beat FBS teams and highly ranked FCS teams. You do remember JMU was in the CAA, right? that's an unfair comparison. compare those teams to "this year's caa", coach brown didn't have compete against the teams that were in the caa during those years. there was no bryant, or campbell, or monmouth, or hampton. we "beat" elon during those broadway and washington years, so clearly we wouldn't have loss all of our caa games even if we'd competed in the caa during those 2014-2019 seasons... Why is it unfair? And I didn't say we would have lost ALL of our games. I said we would have had difficulty, probably would have finished 5 or 6 and definitely wouldn't have won it. And, yeah, I believe our 2014-2019 teams would have done MUCH better in this year's CAA...maybe finished in the top 3.
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Post by A&T-roy on Nov 20, 2023 18:46:51 GMT -5
Our 1 OOC win puts us ahead of Stonybrook. Rankings in the CAA is based on conference wins only. I do believe we are better than Stony Brook. Agreed. Just saying our overall made us not finish last overall, but since he said CAA I can go with that.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 20, 2023 19:16:08 GMT -5
when you can't pass the football, all a team has to do is "stack the box" and that's exactly what richmond did. i attended that game "in person" and saw it with my own eyes. they knew we didn't have a qb who could pass the football under pressure, so they put 7 or 8 in the box for the entire game which literally "bottled up" cohen. also, richmond qb for that day "was" on the roster but they had intended to redshirt him. you make it sound like dude didn't even "suit up" all season long which isn't true. he essentially did exactly what coach brown forced alston hooker to do and that is practice all season long without playing in any games until the final game. that ain't the same as " not being on the roster"... You're right Oleschool...Poor choice of words on my part...but the kid had gotten no run all year...and they boatraced us, because they were better than we were. And we had just walked through the MEAC with the exception of Central that year. Which goes back to the original point on competition. they boatraced us because our offense couldn't consistently move the ball, it was that simple. had either raynard or carter (both out with injuries) played in that game, it would've been an entirely different story. that's the same team that beat kent state early in the season which is the game that carter got injured. and, i wouldn't say we "walked thru" the meac cuz the buzzards beat us pretty bad and we were "lucky" to squeeze out a win against scsu that season. nevertheless, both coach broadway and coach washington would've had a better season with the exact same players on our roster this season that coach brown had, that's not even disputable...
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Post by outsidethinker on Nov 20, 2023 19:46:39 GMT -5
Our previous teams under Washington couldn't beat Morgan State nor Famu and got slashed and gashed by Gardner-Webb RB.... Sure we beat Jacksonville state and ECU under his watch but we also lost to Furman, Hampton, Kennesaw and Monmouth. I'm not sold on this we would've been a lot better rhetoric.
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Post by dc93aggie on Nov 20, 2023 19:57:11 GMT -5
You're right Oleschool...Poor choice of words on my part...but the kid had gotten no run all year...and they boatraced us, because they were better than we were. And we had just walked through the MEAC with the exception of Central that year. Which goes back to the original point on competition. they boatraced us because our offense couldn't consistently move the ball, it was that simple. had either raynard or carter (both out with injuries) played in that game, it would've been an entirely different story. that's the same team that beat kent state early in the season which is the game that carter got injured. and, i wouldn't say we "walked thru" the meac cuz the buzzards beat us pretty bad and we were "lucky" to squeeze out a win against scsu that season. nevertheless, both coach broadway and coach washington would've had a better season with the exact same players on our roster this season that coach brown had, that's not even disputable... Had Raynard or Carter played against Central, we would have probably been in the Celebration Bowl and never would have seen Richmond.
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Post by Agg E. Pride on Nov 20, 2023 20:01:28 GMT -5
Wilds-Lawing & Brickhandler have joined the portal express. More to come, most definitely! On a related note, if you check past posts, I told y'all that Wilds-Lawing was the best quarterback on campus! I saw him QB at NW Cabarrus in high school, and he was/is a STUD! He got lied to and got converted to WR under the premise that he'd be a featured receiver at JumpBallU because of his height and athleticism. We see how that panned out...
I wish him well. He's a great kid.
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