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Post by aggierattler on Jul 8, 2023 15:47:29 GMT -5
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Post by planoaggie on Jul 8, 2023 16:22:03 GMT -5
This is prime example of why I keep asking whether our recruits have signed versus commit or when will they sign their LOI. Without their signature we could end up with an unused scholarship or using a scholarship late on someone that does not necessarily fit but coach did not want to lose the scholarship. Then you potentially get comments later from fans that the player is not D1 or CAA talent. This is not an A&T or Coach Ross only problem. I am highlighting a college systematic problem.
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Post by aggiegrad97 on Jul 8, 2023 17:34:05 GMT -5
Wild because now he’ll be coming back to Corbett, not long after it seemed he was going back to the Power 6 ranks
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jul 8, 2023 17:40:17 GMT -5
He is getting some bad advice from somewhere (maybe his own head).
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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on Jul 8, 2023 18:43:35 GMT -5
Wild because now he’ll be coming back to Corbett... So heckle him extra hard? Ok, gotcha!
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Post by saabman on Jul 8, 2023 21:05:25 GMT -5
This is prime example of why I keep asking whether our recruits have signed versus commit or when will they sign their LOI. Without their signature we could end up with an unused scholarship or using a scholarship late on someone that does not necessarily fit but coach did not want to lose the scholarship. Then you potentially get comments later from fans that the player is not D1 or CAA talent. This is not an A&T or Coach Ross only problem. I am highlighting a college systematic problem. That's not how it works. When a programs makes an offer . That offer can be withdrawn at any moment or time , unless the player-players signs a LOI . The same is true for players that state that they are committed. They can change their minds and decommit without any repercussions. Good programs go at least 10 to 15 deep at each position in their recruitment war room..i.e hot priority must have players, warm to lukewarm players by position. Good programs and coaches do not waste scholarships even if they do not get the player that they want, but they will get a player that can contribute. So no scholarship is wasted or should be wasted.
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Post by Maxell on Jul 9, 2023 0:13:16 GMT -5
Point Guard? LOL
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Post by planoaggie on Jul 9, 2023 4:48:30 GMT -5
This is prime example of why I keep asking whether our recruits have signed versus commit or when will they sign their LOI. Without their signature we could end up with an unused scholarship or using a scholarship late on someone that does not necessarily fit but coach did not want to lose the scholarship. Then you potentially get comments later from fans that the player is not D1 or CAA talent. This is not an A&T or Coach Ross only problem. I am highlighting a college systematic problem. That's not how it works. When a programs makes an offer . That offer can be withdrawn at any moment or time , unless the player-players signs a LOI . The same is true for players that state that they are committed. They can change their minds and decommit without any repercussions. Good programs go at least 10 to 15 deep at each position in their recruitment war room..i.e hot priority must have players, warm to lukewarm players by position. Good programs and coaches do not waste scholarships even if they do not get the player that they want, but they will get a player that can contribute. So no scholarship is wasted or should be wasted. You are talking about general case on how an offer, commitment, and LOI works. I was talking about a specific period of time in the recruitment process (after signing day) and about a specific class of players (HS seniors and college transfers) as in Watson's case. These particular players have a "choice" in signing right now or just announcing that they are committed to playing for the school. That is how it works. This is the risk a coach takes when he/she does not get the player to sign, i.e. Watson. I did mention in my previous post that if someone from this specific class of players decommits "late" in the recruiting process, there is "a chance" of a coach wasting a scholarship or not using it at all. Good colleges do at times waste a scholarship just like the NBA when they pick the next best player available in talent off their recruiting board/list versus need relative speaking. The coach may endup choosing a player that does not play much during their time at college due to him over recruiting a particular position. If you have 10 guards, 1 forward, and 1 center on your MBB team and you sign another guard, then that in my opinion meant you wasted a scholarship. An exception would be if the player ended up being a better player than those guards currently on scholarship. I am not turning down Chris Paul wanting to play for A&T even if I had 10 guards already on scholarship. The main point of my previous post was that as a fan, I wish there was a "better way" to currently know when a player actually signs versus commit when we read these postings. Right now, do we know how many of our "committed" MBB players from postings has "actually signed"? I would hope that they all have by now, but do we really know. Has Watson "signed" or only "committed" to Towson? The above post said committed. Why not announce that you decommited from a school and make another announcement later that you "signed" when you have made your decision instead of "committed"? This is not about challenging his right to choose. He is not a HS sophomore, junior, or senior that has committed early before he is eligible to sign a LOI. We know or expect these type of committed players to flip on a regular basis.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Jul 9, 2023 7:17:26 GMT -5
He is getting some bad advice from somewhere (maybe his own head). Same thing I was thinking, but when I was his age I did some dumb stuff too. All that said, if someone want him then more power to him. The portal is brutal. In my opinion it’s not worth the risk.
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Post by planoaggie on Jul 9, 2023 11:05:26 GMT -5
Watson was projected to be a rotational player at Seton Hall according to a Seton Hall article. Maybe the Towson coach knowing that he did not sign, courted him for a month and told him he would start or play a significant role at Towson. With 2 years of eligibility maybe he decided to go with the sure thing vs working hard to earn a starting position over the next 2 years. Sitting the bench after being a starter is difficult. He did not seem to handle it well mentally when Coach Shumpert benched him a few times. This may actually be a wiser decision where he listened to someone who knew best. Going to Seton Hall as a good fit for him could have been the bad advise, even though I like their coach. Just pure speculation by me.
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Post by saabman on Jul 9, 2023 11:17:32 GMT -5
That's not how it works. When a programs makes an offer . That offer can be withdrawn at any moment or time , unless the player-players signs a LOI . The same is true for players that state that they are committed. They can change their minds and decommit without any repercussions. Good programs go at least 10 to 15 deep at each position in their recruitment war room..i.e hot priority must have players, warm to lukewarm players by position. Good programs and coaches do not waste scholarships even if they do not get the player that they want, but they will get a player that can contribute. So no scholarship is wasted or should be wasted. You are talking about general case on how an offer, commitment, and LOI works. I was talking about a specific period of time in the recruitment process (after signing day) and about a specific class of players (HS seniors and college transfers) as in Watson's case. These particular players have a "choice" in signing right now or just announcing that they are committed to playing for the school. That is how it works. This is the risk a coach takes when he/she does not get the player to sign, i.e. Watson. I did mention in my previous post that if someone from this specific class of players decommits "late" in the recruiting process, there is "a chance" of a coach wasting a scholarship or not using it at all. Good colleges do at times waste a scholarship just like the NBA when they pick the next best player available in talent off their recruiting board/list versus need relative speaking. The coach may endup choosing a player that does not play much during their time at college due to him over recruiting a particular position. If you have 10 guards, 1 forward, and 1 center on your MBB team and you sign another guard, then that in my opinion meant you wasted a scholarship. An exception would be if the player ended up being a better player than those guards currently on scholarship. I am not turning down Chris Paul wanting to play for A&T even if I had 10 guards already on scholarship. The main point of my previous post was that as a fan, I wish there was a "better way" to currently know when a player actually signs versus commit when we read these postings. Right now, do we know how many of our committed MBB players have actually signed? I would hope that they all have by now, but do we really know. Has Watson "signed" or only "committed" to Towson? The above post said committed. Why not announce that you decommited from a school and make another announcement later that you "signed" when you have made your decision instead of "committed"? This is not about challenging his right to choose. He is not a HS sophomore, junior, or senior that has committed early before he is eligible to sign a LOI. We know or expect these type of committed players to flip on a regular basis. The same rules applies to athletes like Watson. Example; Watson only made a commitment announcement. Coaches already know that commitment announcements don't hold water until a player is actually signed. That's why they have contingency plans in place to apply the next player up on their recruiting board. You're making this harder than it really is.
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Post by aggierattler on Jul 9, 2023 11:17:39 GMT -5
It's only July 9th. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see him resurface somewhere other than Towson.
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Post by planoaggie on Jul 9, 2023 11:20:29 GMT -5
It's only July 9th. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see him resurface somewhere other than Towson. Exactly, if he has only committed and not signed. That would be his right.
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Post by saabman on Jul 9, 2023 11:45:51 GMT -5
Watson was projected to be a rotational player at Seton Hall according to a Seton Hall article. Maybe the Towson coach knowing that he did not sign, courted him for a month and told him he would start or play a significant role at Towson. With 2 years of eligibility maybe he decided to go with the sure thing vs working hard to earn a starting position over the next 2 years. Sitting the bench after being a starter is difficult. He did not seem to handle it well mentally when Coach Shumpert benched him a few times. This may actually be a wiser decision where he listened to someone who knew best. Going to Seton Hall as a good fit for him could have been the bad advise, even though I like their coach. Just pure speculation by me. Watson is the type of player that is only going to be happy as a starter and if you ever meet his Mother you will understand why 😆 . She maybe providing the advice behind the youngmans decisions. If his decision is good or bad remains to be seen because his journey to find the right program that fits his needs and ego may not be over after all he only committed and has not signed, so that leaves the window open for him to transfer again and again until he is satisfied. Also he is on the clock for eligibility and significant playing time for next level exposure. I don't care where he goes as long as he doesn't come back to A&T .
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Jul 9, 2023 12:08:50 GMT -5
Mannn, blank Watson. He didn't win us no championship. All he did was shoot 3's from East Market and Benbow connecting maybe 10 out of 100.
Ross ain't gone miss him and I ain't either.
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