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Post by aggielaw on May 18, 2024 17:24:26 GMT -5
He could be good insurance....
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 18, 2024 17:48:48 GMT -5
We already have a Kam Woods, that I think is better...and his name is Landon Glasper. I wouldn't take Kam back. i agree that they are "clones" of each other relative to scoring, matter fact they virtually "look" like each other in the face too. i'll give myself a pat on the back for stating that based on recruiting video, that glasper and woods almost have identical scoring games and i stated that "before" i ever saw glasper play in an aggie uniform. i'm of the belief that you can never have too much scoring. so i agree that glasper brings to the table everything that woods can do "relative to scoring". but glasper is more of a "team player" than woods. either that, or coach ross simply won't tolerate "selfish play" akin to what coach shumpert allowed woods to do. that being stated, to me if woods is willing to commit to playing "team ball" and some defense, i'd take him back cuz ya could never have too much "scoring"...
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Post by saabman on May 18, 2024 18:57:42 GMT -5
We already have a Kam Woods, that I think is better...and his name is Landon Glasper. I wouldn't take Kam back. i agree that they are "clones" of each other relative to scoring, matter fact they virtually "look" like each other in the face too. i'll give myself a pat on the back for stating that based on recruiting video, that glasper and woods almost have identical scoring games and i stated that "before" i ever saw glasper play in an aggie uniform. i'm of the belief that you can never have too much scoring. so i agree that glasper brings to the table everything that woods can do "relative to scoring". but glasper is more of a "team player" than woods. either that, or coach ross simply won't tolerate "selfish play" akin to what coach shumpert allowed woods to do. that being stated, to me if woods is willing to commit to playing "team ball" and some defense, i'd take him back cuz ya could never have too much "scoring"... I wouldn't touch woods with a 10 foot pole. My thinking is simple. You walked away from a starting position at Tee to become a bench warmer at state. Why would I want to bring you back if I was Ross . Players like Woods can upset the chemistry of a team especially when they are a young team. Nah I would pass on Woods returning.
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Post by planoaggie on May 18, 2024 21:16:20 GMT -5
I actually would take Kam back. This would give us depth at the point guard spot and a 2nd tremendous scorer. This would be Kam's last season in college and I would bet he would do anything a coach ask to go out on top and secure lots of playing time. If he fails to follow orders then all Coach Ross has to do is increase Glasper's playing time. The last go around at A&T, we had no one to take his spot. The same would apply to Glasper if he goes off the reservation. They would essentially keep each other in check through competition for time and approval by coach.
Additionally, Kam averaged 3.3 assist per game. That is more than anyone over the last 5 years except Langley and Shell. I see no evidence that he can't play team ball if placed with a better coach and surrounded by unselfish teammates.
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Post by Bornthrilla on May 18, 2024 21:29:48 GMT -5
We finished 7-25 last season and yall talking bout we wouldn't take back a former all-conference player.
Be for real. If Kam wanted to come back, Ross would take him in a New York minute.
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Post by saabman on May 18, 2024 22:29:56 GMT -5
We finished 7-25 last season and yall talking bout we wouldn't take back a former all-conference player. Be for real. If Kam wanted to come back, Ross would take him in a New York minute. Still not convinced. For one what's the use in having a scorer that can't stop people from scoring on defense. Woods was a liability on defense. Also you're not addressing our main need which is our big man . Also any point guard that only can generate 3.3 assist per game is basically a one-dimensional player that is a liability on defense and can only score but can't facilitate are direct and create shots for his teammates on offense. Truthfully I think Woods would be a distraction and detrimental to what Ross is trying to achieve. I would pass on Woods. Woods to me is like a woman that divorces a man and then decides to come back when things doesn't work out with her side piece. There is a reason why no one is really looking at Woods, coming from a team that made a Deep Run in the NCAA dance . To me that's a Red Flag
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Post by Aggie77 on May 18, 2024 23:17:35 GMT -5
Playing under Coach Ross would be incredibly different than playing under Shumpert. I think we would see a better/different Kam.
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Post by planoaggie on May 19, 2024 9:19:49 GMT -5
Still not convinced. For one what's the use in having a scorer that can't stop people from scoring on defense. Woods was a liability on defense. Also you're not addressing our main need which is our big man . Also any point guard that only can generate 3.3 assist per game is basically a one-dimensional player that is a liability on defense and can only score but can't facilitate are direct and create shots for his teammates on offense. Truthfully I think Woods would be a distraction and detrimental to what Ross is trying to achieve. I would pass on Woods. Woods to me is like a woman that divorces a man and then decides to come back when things doesn't work out with her side piece. There is a reason why no one is really looking at Woods, coming from a team that made a Deep Run in the NCAA dance . To me that's a Red Flag I prefer not discussing Woods since he is a former Aggie that has not indicated he wants to return to A&T, is not performing well at another school, or doing something positive in society that A&T would like to promote that he attended our school. I wish him well. Now to the heart of your post. I see no evidence that he would be detrimental to the team if he returned. I believe a lot of what we observed from him was a result of Coach Shumpert. Kam did not wear different uniform attire at NCSU, but he did here. We played way too much isolation ball under Shumpert. Several players had the freedom to do whatever. We did not invest in running many half court sets. How do we know whether his defense got better under NCSU? How do we know whether his basketball IQ did not get better at NCSU in shot selection and decision making to look for others? No one has seen enough of him on the court to make that judgment which is hindering his recruiting (not enough film at NCSU). Now looking at our team needs. I would not choose Kam over our need for a good big man. We are over loaded at the guard position. Now if we are talking about upgrading the guard spot where we endup cutting a guard, then yes he is an upgrade to a few players currently on the team. Look, we were last in the conference in the following categories: team points, opponent points given up, assists, turnovers, FG%, 3P%, REB. www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/stats/team/_/group/10Kam would definitely help us in points and assists and I am not sure that he would hurt us as much as you indicate on defense given that the team was last in the CAA on points given up. To be honest his point production, assist, and defense will look different under Coach Ross if he played here at A&T as Aggie77 stated.
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Post by saabman on May 19, 2024 13:53:07 GMT -5
Still not convinced. For one what's the use in having a scorer that can't stop people from scoring on defense. Woods was a liability on defense. Also you're not addressing our main need which is our big man . Also any point guard that only can generate 3.3 assist per game is basically a one-dimensional player that is a liability on defense and can only score but can't facilitate are direct and create shots for his teammates on offense. Truthfully I think Woods would be a distraction and detrimental to what Ross is trying to achieve. I would pass on Woods. Woods to me is like a woman that divorces a man and then decides to come back when things doesn't work out with her side piece. There is a reason why no one is really looking at Woods, coming from a team that made a Deep Run in the NCAA dance . To me that's a Red Flag I prefer not discussing Woods since he is a former Aggie that has not indicated he wants to return to A&T, is not performing well at another school, or doing something positive in society that A&T would like to promote that he attended our school. I wish him well. Now to the heart of your post. I see no evidence that he would be detrimental to the team if he returned. I believe a lot of what we observed from him was a result of Coach Shumpert. Kam did not wear different uniform attire at NCSU, but he did here. We played way too much isolation ball under Shumpert. Several players had the freedom to do whatever. We did not invest in running many half court sets. How do we know whether his defense got better under NCSU? How do we know whether his basketball IQ did not get better at NCSU in shot selection and decision making to look for others? No one has seen enough of him on the court to make that judgment which is hindering his recruiting (not enough film at NCSU). Now looking at our team needs. I would not choose Kam over our need for a good big man. We are over loaded at the guard position. Now if we are talking about upgrading the guard spot where we endup cutting a guard, then yes he is an upgrade to a few players currently on the team. Look, we were last in the conference in the following categories: team points, opponent points given up, assists, turnovers, FG%, 3P%, REB. www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/stats/team/_/group/10Kam would definitely help us in points and assists and I am not sure that he would hurt us as much as you indicate on defense given that the team was last in the CAA on points given up. To be honest his point production, assist, and defense will look different under Coach Ross if he played here at A&T as Aggie77 stated. I understand your reasoning but I also understand is what we don't know. Has he changed if any at all. I'm just not willing to take that chance especially when we have players that have bought into Ross's system. If his style of play has not changed after transferring to multiple schools . I don't think it's going to change when he transfers to his next one.
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Post by planoaggie on May 19, 2024 13:58:33 GMT -5
I prefer not discussing Woods since he is a former Aggie that has not indicated he wants to return to A&T, is not performing well at another school, or doing something positive in society that A&T would like to promote that he attended our school. I wish him well. Now to the heart of your post. I see no evidence that he would be detrimental to the team if he returned. I believe a lot of what we observed from him was a result of Coach Shumpert. Kam did not wear different uniform attire at NCSU, but he did here. We played way too much isolation ball under Shumpert. Several players had the freedom to do whatever. We did not invest in running many half court sets. How do we know whether his defense got better under NCSU? How do we know whether his basketball IQ did not get better at NCSU in shot selection and decision making to look for others? No one has seen enough of him on the court to make that judgment which is hindering his recruiting (not enough film at NCSU). Now looking at our team needs. I would not choose Kam over our need for a good big man. We are over loaded at the guard position. Now if we are talking about upgrading the guard spot where we endup cutting a guard, then yes he is an upgrade to a few players currently on the team. Look, we were last in the conference in the following categories: team points, opponent points given up, assists, turnovers, FG%, 3P%, REB. www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/stats/team/_/group/10Kam would definitely help us in points and assists and I am not sure that he would hurt us as much as you indicate on defense given that the team was last in the CAA on points given up. To be honest his point production, assist, and defense will look different under Coach Ross if he played here at A&T as Aggie77 stated. I understand your reasoning but I also understand is what we don't know. Has he changed if any at all. I'm just not willing to take that chance especially when we have players that have bought into Ross's system. If his style of play has not changed after transferring to multiple schools . I don't think it's going to change when he transfers to his next one. Got it. That's why we all have our own opinions and don't have to agree in a good discussion on hypothetical or speculation.
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Post by A&T-roy on May 19, 2024 20:41:58 GMT -5
My position isn't just based on having Lando (AI of the CAA), but considering the 3 other 2 guards we've bought in. Not to mention what I heard of about the circumstances of Woods leaving.
We're already loaded at the 1 and 2 (PG - Cam Shell, Kyle Duke, Qua Brown; SG - Landon Glasper, Ryan Forrest, Jahnathan Lamothe & Bryson Ogletree)...not enough time & ball for Woods.
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Post by Bornthrilla on May 19, 2024 20:47:55 GMT -5
We finished 7-25 last year.
We are not loaded at the 1 & 2. We are not loaded anywhere.
We need all the backcourt help we can get.
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Post by A&T-roy on May 19, 2024 20:57:52 GMT -5
We finished 7-25 last year. We are not loaded at the 1 & 2. We are not loaded anywhere. We need all the backcourt help we can get. See my updated comment with what we have at 1 & 2. And I believe 1 or more of the 2's can play 1. Our record last year was more to do with youth and size than anything else. Cam and Lando were pretty solid.
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Post by aggie2039 on May 19, 2024 21:09:24 GMT -5
We have enough guards
- 6'3 Ryan Forest (Northwestern State transfer) - 6'4 Jahnathan Lamothe (Univ Maryland transfer) - 6'4 Bryson Ogletree (South Plains JUCO/App State transfer) - 6'4 Kyle Duke - 6'4 Qua Brown - 5'10 Camian Shell - 6'2 Landon Glasper - 6'5 Kellman-Nichols - 6'5 Jalal McKie - 6'2 Ahmad Hamilton - 6'2 Dantae Watson - 5'11 Dylan Swift - 6'3 Julius Reese - 6'1 Jordan Martin
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Post by Bornthrilla on May 19, 2024 21:23:16 GMT -5
Good lord. That's probably why we went 7-25 last season.
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