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Post by planoaggie on Jun 26, 2023 5:42:17 GMT -5
He has two years of eligibility. He played one year at D-2 Compton (Covid Year) in 2020, transferred to SCSU but didn't stay because of their late coaching shuffle and enrolled the past 2 years at Garden City. He retained his two years because of suspension of all NCAA/NJCAA basketball activity in 2020. Smart kid who got into the books during his down time during the epidemic. I did not factor in the Covid year, so you are probably right that he has 2 years of eligibility. We should be a "little" concerned about his multiple associate degrees and how that impacts his college classification. If he is deemed a Senior or Grad student, he can transfer with ease after one year under Grad exception. If he is a Junior, then it will be more difficult for him to transfer next year under the new transfer portal rules. Being positive, I hope he and the other recruits complete their full eligibility @ A&T as others mentioned. |
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Post by Aggie One on Jun 26, 2023 10:44:46 GMT -5
He comes in as a junior.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 26, 2023 12:56:33 GMT -5
He has two years of eligibility. He played one year at D-2 Compton (Covid Year) in 2020, transferred to SCSU but didn't stay because of their late coaching shuffle and enrolled the past 2 years at Garden City. He retained his two years because of suspension of all NCAA/NJCAA basketball activity in 2020. Smart kid who got into the books during his down time during the epidemic. I did not factor in the Covid year, so you are probably right that he has 2 years of eligibility. We should be a "little" concerned about his multiple associate degrees and how that impacts his college classification. If he is deemed a Senior or Grad student, he can transfer with ease after one year under Grad exception. If he is a Junior, then it will be more difficult for him to transfer next year under the new transfer portal rules. Being positive, I hope he and the other recruits complete their full eligibility @ A&T as others mentioned. i wouldn't be concerned one iota whether he'll transfer or not. the kid likely only has 2 years of eligibility left, not worth worrying over whether he'll be here just 1 year or 2 years. me personally, if i was coach ross? i wouldn't be concerned about that one bit... |
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 26, 2023 12:59:00 GMT -5
Do you know this for sure or is this your opinion? Athletic eligibility and academic credits or status toward a degree are different. Depending on what his major will be at A&T and what number of credit hours accepted towards that degree from previous schools, he may only need 1 year to graduate. |
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Post by saabman on Jun 26, 2023 15:04:33 GMT -5
Do you know this for sure or is this your opinion? Athletic eligibility and academic credits or status toward a degree are different. Depending on what his major will be at A&T and what number of credit hours accepted towards that degree from previous schools, he may only need 1 year to graduate. If he already has two AA degrees completed over 60hr he will be classified as a first semester Jr and will only have to meet institutional on campus basis/standards that all new transfers are required to meet. Your correct he may or possibly can compete his degree in one year depending on his concentration and how many hours transfer up or are considered upper level courses at A&T. |
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Post by Aggie One on Jun 26, 2023 15:45:59 GMT -5
Do you know this for sure or is this your opinion? Athletic eligibility and academic credits or status toward a degree are different. Depending on what his major will be at A&T and what number of credit hours accepted towards that degree from previous schools, he may only need 1 year to graduate. If he already has two AA degrees completed over 60hr he will be classified as a first semester Jr and will only have to meet institutional on campus basis/standards that all new transfers are required to meet. Your correct he may or possibly can compete his degree in one year depending on his concentration and how many hours transfer up or are considered upper level courses at A&T. It's a fact. Thanks saabman. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 26, 2023 17:20:20 GMT -5
Do you know this for sure or is this your opinion? Athletic eligibility and academic credits or status toward a degree are different. Depending on what his major will be at A&T and what number of credit hours accepted towards that degree from previous schools, he may only need 1 year to graduate. relative to ncaa football eligibility, it doesn't matter if he only needs 1 year to graduate. he'd still have 2 years of eligibility remaining assuming he meets the gpa minimum requirements. he could enroll in grad school or remain an undergrad in pursuit of a double degree, he'd still have 2 years of eligibility remaining whether he graduates after year 1 at a&t or not... |
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 26, 2023 18:23:47 GMT -5
Do you know this for sure or is this your opinion? Athletic eligibility and academic credits or status toward a degree are different. Depending on what his major will be at A&T and what number of credit hours accepted towards that degree from previous schools, he may only need 1 year to graduate. If he already has two AA degrees completed over 60hr he will be classified as a first semester Jr and will only have to meet institutional on campus basis/standards that all new transfers are required to meet. Your correct he may or possibly can compete his degree in one year depending on his concentration and how many hours transfer up or are considered upper level courses at A&T. He said he has "3" associate degrees. Depending on major at A&T, not all grades will apply towards new degree program as you stated. That is why I ask his classification. I am no longer questioning his athletic eligibility. The Covid extra year was a good explanation. |
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 26, 2023 18:29:36 GMT -5
If he already has two AA degrees completed over 60hr he will be classified as a first semester Jr and will only have to meet institutional on campus basis/standards that all new transfers are required to meet. Your correct he may or possibly can compete his degree in one year depending on his concentration and how many hours transfer up or are considered upper level courses at A&T. It's a fact. Thanks saabman. Ok. Thanks. |
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 26, 2023 19:19:08 GMT -5
Do you know this for sure or is this your opinion? Athletic eligibility and academic credits or status toward a degree are different. Depending on what his major will be at A&T and what number of credit hours accepted towards that degree from previous schools, he may only need 1 year to graduate. relative to ncaa football eligibility, it doesn't matter if he only needs 1 year to graduate. he'd still have 2 years of eligibility remaining assuming he meets the gpa minimum requirements. he could enroll in grad school or remain an undergrad in pursuit of a double degree, he'd still have 2 years of eligibility remaining whether he graduates after year 1 at a&t or not... Aggie One satisfied my question about athletic eligibility awhile back stating he has a Covid year. I agree he probably has 2 years. My 2nd question dealt with classification, not eligibility. My repeated post below. { We should be a "little" concerned about his multiple associate degrees and how that impacts his college classification. } Coaches need to know this to plan for which kids will be returning and which kids will be graduating. These are known losses to the program. If a kid stays after graduation because he still has athletic eligibility, then most coaches consider this a bonus if they like/need the player's leadership or performance. Since Aggie One has posted he knows the player will be coming in as a Junior, then he has 2 years of both athletics and academics. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 26, 2023 20:03:09 GMT -5
relative to ncaa football eligibility, it doesn't matter if he only needs 1 year to graduate. he'd still have 2 years of eligibility remaining assuming he meets the gpa minimum requirements. he could enroll in grad school or remain an undergrad in pursuit of a double degree, he'd still have 2 years of eligibility remaining whether he graduates after year 1 at a&t or not... Aggie One satisfied my question about athletic eligibility awhile back stating he has a Covid year. I agree he probably has 2 years. My 2nd question dealt with classification, not eligibility. My repeated post below. { We should be a "little" concerned about his multiple associate degrees and how that impacts his college classification. } Coaches need to know this to plan for which kids will be returning and which kids will be graduating. These are known losses to the program. If a kid stays after graduation because he still has athletic eligibility, then most coaches consider this a bonus if they like/need the player's leadership or performance. Since Aggie One has posted he knows the player will be coming in as a Junior, then he has 2 years of both athletics and academics. i don't get it? who cares what his official academic classification will be? i understand questioning how many years of eligibility he has left, don't understand what's so important about what his classification will be unless you're his parents... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards |
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 26, 2023 22:22:35 GMT -5
I don't get it? who cares what his official academic classification will be? i understand questioning how many years of eligibility he has left, don't understand what's so important about what his classification will be unless you're his parents... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards Good coaches care and prepare for situation like this (if he came in as a senior or a junior that could graduate in 1 year). This is completely different than a freshman, sophomore, or junior "unexpectedly" transferring or leaving. Ex. - Redshirt junior starter has 2 years eligibility but can graduate in 1 year. Should the coach not care or plan for that player possibly deciding not to play next year? Our coaches have lost Olympic or nationally ranked players in certain sports due to players deciding to forgo their last year of eligibility and graduate early or go elsewhere as a graduate transfer, therefore having the coach to recruit another player late in the recruiting cycle if unaware. Knowing and caring about certain things about your players can make you a better coach and have a better relationship with your players. This occurs somewhat more with redshirts and transfers. Again, there is no need for anyone to stress out over this. I said this was of little concern. |
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Post by saabman on Jun 26, 2023 23:10:16 GMT -5
I don't get it? who cares what his official academic classification will be? i understand questioning how many years of eligibility he has left, don't understand what's so important about what his classification will be unless you're his parents... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards Good coaches care and prepare for situation like this (if he came in as a senior or a junior that could graduate in 1 year). This is completely different than a freshman, sophomore, or junior "unexpectedly" transferring or leaving. Ex. - Redshirt junior starter has 2 years eligibility but can graduate in 1 year. Should the coach not care or plan for that player possibly deciding not to play next year? Our coaches have lost Olympic or national quality players in certain sports due to players deciding to forgo their last year of eligibility and graduate early or go elsewhere as a graduate transfer, therefore having the coach to recruit another player late in the recruiting cycle if unaware. Knowing and caring about certain things about your players can make you a better coach and have a better relationship with your players. This occurs somewhat more with redshirts and transfers. Again, there is no need for anyone to stress out over this. I said this was of little concern. Some of you are making a mole hill into a mountain 😆 over something pertaining to Juco transfers that have been going on for years. Don't read more into this then it really is because there is no loyalty amongst players these days. It is more of the best opportunity to showcase my skills attitude and mindset. A true freshman can transfer out just as quick as a Juco transfer, a graduating senior has the option of staying or using the graduate transfer in the transfer portal. All head coaches and programs know this and has become accustomed to the fact that players come and go and all you can do is recruit them develop them and Hope that they decide to stay and and graduate before they transfer out or decide to stay for their graduate year it's that simple at all levels of the NCAA. If the portal still had the one year sit-out rule for players transferring at this level there would be less movement between programs. So OSA is correct regarding the players class ranking and PlanoAggie your correct also, with nothing to be concerned about on either side. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 26, 2023 23:56:47 GMT -5
I don't get it? who cares what his official academic classification will be? i understand questioning how many years of eligibility he has left, don't understand what's so important about what his classification will be unless you're his parents... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards Good coaches care and prepare for situation like this (if he came in as a senior or a junior that could graduate in 1 year). This is completely different than a freshman, sophomore, or junior "unexpectedly" transferring or leaving. Ex. - Redshirt junior starter has 2 years eligibility but can graduate in 1 year. Should the coach not care or plan for that player possibly deciding not to play next year? Our coaches have lost Olympic or nationally ranked players in certain sports due to players deciding to forgo their last year of eligibility and graduate early or go elsewhere as a graduate transfer, therefore having the coach to recruit another player late in the recruiting cycle if unaware. Knowing and caring about certain things about your players can make you a better coach and have a better relationship with your players. This occurs somewhat more with redshirts and transfers. Again, there is no need for anyone to stress out over this. I said this was of little concern. again, if i were coach ross, i wouldn't worry about that cuz he has very little control over kids transferring. it don't matter what classification an athlete is, they "all" can transfer if they decide to do so. imo, a good coach shouldn't waste his time "worrying" about whether an athlete will transfer or not. to me, that time "wasted" while worrying about an athlete transferring can be better spent creating "the best" environment possible for a basketball athlete at our level, but beyond that? let the chips fall where they may. its a new day in college athletics, kids can transfer without penalty by virtue of the transfer portal and there's not very much a coach can do about that except provide the best basketball program possible so that the vast majority of players will not have a desire to leave. other than that, let the chips fall where they may, "next man up"! |
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Post by planoaggie on Jun 27, 2023 8:40:42 GMT -5
Again, if i were coach ross, i wouldn't worry about that cuz he has very little control over kids transferring. it don't matter what classification an athlete is, they "all" can transfer if they decide to do so. imo, a good coach shouldn't waste his time "worrying" about whether an athlete will transfer or not. to me, that time "wasted" while worrying about an athlete transferring can be better spent creating "the best" environment possible for a basketball athlete at our level, but beyond that? let the chips fall where they may. its a new day in college athletics, kids can transfer without penalty by virtue of the transfer portal and there's not very much a coach can do about that except provide the best basketball program possible so that the vast majority of players will not have a desire to leave. other than that, let the chips fall where they may, "next man up"! You keep making a point about transferring, but if you read my last 3 to 4 posts you will find that I used the word graduating many more times than transferring. Coaches have a good idea of how many players they will lose due to graduation each year and can plan ahead for that. That is why I initially asked what classification would this player be since he had 3 associate degrees. Any concerns about him transferring was a secondary effect to the primary focus on his classification. Coaches care about player's eligibility and classification (graduation) and they don't necessarily have to be the same. Even my example mentioned a redshirt player "graduating" early. This is a mute point now that Aggie One answered my questions on this player's eligibility and classification. Like you, I have no concerns regarding a player's freedom to transfer and that a coach cannot anticipate a kid transferring (coaches sometimes run players off) or choice to turn pro. I guess we disagree on whether a coach should concern himself in knowing when one of his players possibly might "graduate early". Although this could have no, a negative, or a positive impact on the team depending on the value of the player (LeBron vs me 🤣) to the program. Again, not high on a coach's concern list. |
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