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Post by planoaggie on Mar 9, 2023 19:16:26 GMT -5
I had mentioned this in one of my earlier posts, if he became available. He has 3 years remaining on his contract and if we could convince him to coach us for those 3 years for cheap ($400K to $500K for him) it would be a win-win situation. He builds up his resume and we use his name to attract much better recruits and coaching staff. The coaching staff is key because we need to make sure we develop a good coach in waiting to take over after 3 years. I also would ask Jim Boeheim how much he would take to coach us since it sounds like he was forced out and did not want to retire. All they can say is no, but they may also be interested. That’s actually a pretty good idea in theory. I wonder would the school have the balls to even reach out to him/Gtown to begin with though Yes, it is more theory than reality 🤔. |
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Post by outsidethinker on Mar 9, 2023 19:23:32 GMT -5
Mehhh, I'd like for us to be able to afford a full competent staff for the team as oppose to just one great coach lacking several resources trying to pull off a short term miracle. Build from foundation up as oppose to vision down lol.
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 9, 2023 19:28:34 GMT -5
Mehhh, I'd like for us to be able to afford a full competent staff for the team as oppose to just one great coach lacking several resources trying to pull off a short term miracle. Build from foundation up as oppose to vision down lol. I said the key was to have a good coach in waiting, otherwise I would not do the deal. I want coach name appeal for recruiting and staff development from the deal if he plans to leave in 3 years. |
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Post by AggieGroove on Mar 9, 2023 19:33:35 GMT -5
I wonder how much his asking price is 😂 I had mentioned this in one of my earlier posts, if he became available. He has 3 years remaining on his contract and if we could convince him to coach us for those 3 years for cheap ($400K to $500K for him) it would be a win-win situation. He builds up his resume and we use his name to attract much better recruits and coaching staff. The coaching staff is key because we need to make sure we develop a good coach in waiting to take over after 3 years. I also would ask Jim Boeheim how much he would take to coach us since it sounds like he was forced out and did not want to retire. All they can say is no, but they may also be interested. No..he hasn't prove he can win at d-1 |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 9, 2023 19:38:47 GMT -5
I had mentioned this in one of my earlier posts, if he became available. He has 3 years remaining on his contract and if we could convince him to coach us for those 3 years for cheap ($400K to $500K for him) it would be a win-win situation. He builds up his resume and we use his name to attract much better recruits and coaching staff. The coaching staff is key because we need to make sure we develop a good coach in waiting to take over after 3 years. I also would ask Jim Boeheim how much he would take to coach us since it sounds like he was forced out and did not want to retire. All they can say is no, but they may also be interested. No..he hasn't prove he can win at d-1 Yes, he has. Big East tournament champion in 2021. His problem was that a lot of kids he recruited and developed transfered for multiple reasons (got in trouble, grades, losing). He never really recovered from that one season where I believe 4 to 5 starters all transfered. McClung was one of those transfers. The NBA dunk winner. |
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Post by AggieGroove on Mar 10, 2023 12:50:32 GMT -5
No..he hasn't prove he can win at d-1 Yes, he has. Big East tournament champion in 2021. His problem was that a lot of kids he recruited and developed transfered for multiple reasons (got in trouble, grades, losing). He never really recovered from that one season where I believe 4 to 5 starters all transfered. McClung was one of those transfers. The NBA dunk winner. Not consistently...... |
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 10, 2023 13:56:02 GMT -5
Yes, he has. Big East tournament champion in 2021. His problem was that a lot of kids he recruited and developed transfered for multiple reasons (got in trouble, grades, losing). He never really recovered from that one season where I believe 4 to 5 starters all transfered. McClung was one of those transfers. The NBA dunk winner. Not consistently...... That is true about not consistent winning seasons, but winning any Power 5 conference championship by a head coach is a major deal by many and instantly puts a coach at the top of many mid-major colleges search list for coaches. |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Mar 10, 2023 19:11:25 GMT -5
Patrick Ewing will never get a head coaching job again at any level. He was absolutely terrible at Georgetown and that is why his players kept leaving in droves.
Your name and celebrity can only carry you so far. His best bet will be to become a bench coach again in the NBA or just enjoy his retirement.
But the question about whether or not Ewing has what it takes to be a successful head coach has finally been answered.
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 10, 2023 20:19:29 GMT -5
Patrick Ewing will never get a head coaching job again at any level. He was absolutely terrible at Georgetown and that is why his players kept leaving in droves. Your name and celebrity can only carry you so far. His best bet will be to become a bench coach again in the NBA or just enjoy his retirement. But the question about whether or not Ewing has what it takes to be a successful head coach has finally been answered. You maybe correct on him going back to the NBA to coach, but I disagree with you that he can't get a head coaching job at the college level. In my opinion, he just needs to start at a lower level of competition and his name still holds value with HS kids and college administrators our age. Only time will tell. |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Mar 10, 2023 20:37:04 GMT -5
Why? What has he done at Georgetown to make you think he would be successful at another school with even less resources?
His team got hot for 5 days during the 2021 Big East Tournament and that was it. They went 7-25 the very next season.
Every thing he did before and since that Big East tournament run was terrible. He is a terrible recruiter, terrible communicator and a terrible Xs and Os coach.
The only reason you are advocating for Ewing is because you are still thinking about his playing days.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 10, 2023 20:45:31 GMT -5
Patrick Ewing will never get a head coaching job again at any level. He was absolutely terrible at Georgetown and that is why his players kept leaving in droves. Your name and celebrity can only carry you so far. His best bet will be to become a bench coach again in the NBA or just enjoy his retirement. But the question about whether or not Ewing has what it takes to be a successful head coach has finally been answered. You maybe correct on him going back to the NBA to coach, but I disagree with you that he can't get a head coaching job at the college level. In my opinion, he just needs to start at a lower level of competition and his name still holds value with HS kids and college administrators our age. Only time will tell. name means nothing if you don't win, there's plenty examples of that... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards |
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Mar 10, 2023 21:01:21 GMT -5
There are plenty of examples of coaches especially in the NFL and NBA who have multiple losing records that continue to get hired. They get recycled over and over again rather than to give new people an opportunity.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Mar 10, 2023 21:04:51 GMT -5
It took Ewing forever to get a head coaching job partly because he does not interview well. The only school willing to give him a chance was his alma mater.
Ewing is not getting any more chances after this disaster.
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Mar 10, 2023 23:44:24 GMT -5
You don't know that. What if A&T hired him next week?
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Post by planoaggie on Mar 10, 2023 23:47:52 GMT -5
It took Ewing forever to get a head coaching job partly because he does not interview well. The only school willing to give him a chance was his alma mater. Ewing is not getting any more chances after this disaster. Let's see. He may not even want to continue coaching at the college level. This was his 1st HC job. Maybe he takes all the experience and mistakes that you pointed out in your earlier post and channel it into lessons learned where the next college that hires him benefits in getting a much better coach, leader, and recruiter. As others have mentioned, coaches are recycled and sometimes a new start elsewhere leads to success. How good of a player he was only matters to me in name recognition for player and staff recruitment. A&T has not been relevant in basketball since 2013. Its last MEAC Championship and at-large NCAA bid. Our fans traveled well in certain arenas, but what we have been doing on the court as a team these past years is not threatening. Some good competitive teams, but not championship caliber teams. You can't recruit very good players with nothing to show for it (titles) or money these days (NIL). It is even harder to hold onto good talent due to NIL and the NCAA rule that allows players to transfer 1 time without the penalty of sitting out. We need to do something drastically different and I felt that name recognition of a former NBA player might due the trick. Otherwise, hire an experienced HC or assistant coach from a good coaching tree or winning program at the CAA or higher level as to competition. That's if you are trying to win now. Go get a good young talented HC or assistant coach at any level if we want to experiment with a project and feel that we don't necessarily need to win right now, but build towards a good program. Having an entire season to hire a coach does not come around often, so I would think that we would be aggressive to try and win now. |
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