|
Post by planoaggie on Jan 27, 2023 21:46:50 GMT -5
I don't know why we are comparing the teams in the CAA to that of the MEAC when it does not help us determine how well our team will compete and finish the season in the CAA. But I will join in the debate just to show that the gap between the MEAC, CAA, and Big South vary from year to year depending on the strength of all teams within a conference, teams switching conferences, player graduation/transfer, injuries, coach changes, etc. Looking at the below link for years 2021, 2022, and 2023, you can see that the MEAC significantly closed the gap between it and the CAA, therefore why would you not expect the MEAC to have several teams capable of beating CAA teams. Four to five years ago the MEAC used to be the lowest ranked conference in the NCAA. The difference in rating is small, but definitively show that the "NCAA" feels the CAA overall (top to bottom and not a select list of teams) is a stronger basketball conference. The CAA used to consistently be top 15 when Old Dominion and James Madison were in the conference. They are now typically a top 20 conference. When I compare MEAC to Big South, the MEAC has leaped frog the Big South. If we were still in the Big South or MEAC, both conference ratings would have benefited by us staying. If Howard joins the CAA, then the CAA rating will go up and the MEAC rating will go down. The comparison of conference strength or individual teams over years is a dynamic state, not static. Therefore, pieces of everyone's argument are correct to a certain extent depending on the year of comparison, but I still don't get why we are having this debate. We only need to beat the teams we face this year. www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/rpi-rating-by-conf?date=2023-01-27I should add that of course losing to teams in the lower ranked conferences or beating teams from the higher ranked conferences effects ranking and seeding, but it did not seem that was what was being debated.
|
|
saabman
Official BDF member
Posts: 11,793
Member is Online
|
Post by saabman on Jan 27, 2023 23:19:02 GMT -5
^^^^^ here you go with the excuses again. norfolk "is not" currently the best team in the meac, norfolk is tied for "4th place" in the meac (with nccu) out of 8 teams which means they're 3 spots from the meac's "bottom" and 4 spots from the top. in other words, norfolk is closer to "last place" than first place. yet, norfolk is "undefeated" against caa teams this season and was "almost" undefeated against the caa last season (3-1) too including a win over unc wilmington "in wilmington" who went 23-9 last season but norfolk split with hampton last season which was their only caa loss. one could "validly" argue that howard and norfolk are "capable" of beating every caa team we've beaten cuz we loss to norfolk this year and got "blown out" by howard last year... Howard lost to Hampton by 9 and Hampton is 2 -7 in the CAA, Howard is 4 -1 in the MEAC. It doesn't matter who any of our like opponents lost to or beat what matters is who we beat . All the games that we lost have not been because they out played us talent wise ,it was because we beat ourselves by not playing disciplined ball . All the excuses that were made that we couldn't play inside have been proven wrong because we were undisciplined and in some cases look unprepared. We can play inside on offense but it took us most of the season to realize that, all of that falls on the Coaching staff . Look we can beat any team in this conference as long as we don't continue to beat ourselves playing undisciplined ball , it that simple .
|
|
|
Post by Aggie One on Jan 27, 2023 23:41:01 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by pj on Jan 28, 2023 2:39:54 GMT -5
Someone said defense and 3’s. They were right. Drexel had that big man inside lurking on defense. Powell, Robinson and Johnson had their hands full. Kam was getting rebounds because of the fight inside. Johnson would finally get an isolation and it was one and done. But our defense has gotten better this year. I don’t think that we had even fouled a lot in the first half. Our endurance wore them down. We made THEM play defense. They started being a step slower. They still got open looks but could not knock them down, and talk smack like in the first half.
|
|
popdad
Official BDF member
Posts: 1,739
|
Post by popdad on Jan 28, 2023 12:52:36 GMT -5
Someone said defense and 3’s. They were right. Drexel had that big man inside lurking on defense. Powell, Robinson and Johnson had their hands full. Kam was getting rebounds because of the fight inside. Johnson would finally get an isolation and it was one and done. But our defense has gotten better this year. I don’t think that we had even fouled a lot in the first half. Our endurance wore them down. We made THEM play defense. They started being a step slower. They still got open looks but could not knock them down, and talk smack like in the first half. Absolutely, you can’t make that kind of run without playing good defense, forcing bad shots, creating turnovers and knocking down big shots. I think I saw that we only made 1 (3) in the first half, but finished the game at 42%. At one part of the 2nd half out scored them 27 to 4, and moved from being down 31 to 12 to up by 20.
|
|
|
Post by 82hawk on Jan 31, 2023 8:10:16 GMT -5
A decent way to compare midmajor conferences is the Midmajor Top 25. Western Athletic has five in the Top 25, CAA has three, Sunbelt has three, Missouri Valley three, West Coast three, SoCon has one, MAAC has one, Patriot has one, ASUN has one, Patriot has one, Summit one, MEAC none, Big South none. collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25
|
|
|
Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 8, 2023 8:16:22 GMT -5
|
|