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Post by bluehaze on Apr 25, 2022 13:41:00 GMT -5
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Post by captaggie on Apr 25, 2022 15:24:58 GMT -5
Pleased to see substantial funding into repairs and renovations.
Need a parking deck, the larger the better.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 25, 2022 15:28:32 GMT -5
i'm trying to figure out "why" a new health and wellness center for students is needed. didn't we recently build the one that we already have not that long ago? hard to imagine that we've already outgrown that facility...
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Post by captaggie on Apr 25, 2022 16:05:27 GMT -5
Imo, the current center will become athletes only.
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Post by aggielaw on Apr 25, 2022 16:39:11 GMT -5
Any new renderings of War Memorial?
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Apr 25, 2022 17:02:01 GMT -5
i'm trying to figure out "why" a new health and wellness center for students is needed. didn't we recently build the one that we already have not that long ago? hard to imagine that we've already outgrown that facility... I don’t know if you’ve had a chance, but look at the student rec centers at some of the UNCs. Our current fitness center doesn’t have the size or scope to compete. As others have stated…the current facility can be for athletics…if new students want to do rock climbing, and such they go to the new spot. |
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Post by aggie2039 on Apr 25, 2022 17:06:26 GMT -5
i'm trying to figure out "why" a new health and wellness center for students is needed. didn't we recently build the one that we already have not that long ago? hard to imagine that we've already outgrown that facility... I don’t know if you’ve had a chance, but look at the student rec centers at some of the UNCs. Our current fitness center doesn’t have the size or scope to compete. As others have stated…the current facility can be for athletics…if new students want to do rock climbing, and such they go to the new spot. We are competing with UNCG and theirs is light years better than our current facility. We must have top notch facilities in order to close the deal with students, some don’t seem to understand the concept. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 25, 2022 17:42:07 GMT -5
i'm trying to figure out "why" a new health and wellness center for students is needed. didn't we recently build the one that we already have not that long ago? hard to imagine that we've already outgrown that facility... I don’t know if you’ve had a chance, but look at the student rec centers at some of the UNCs. Our current fitness center doesn’t have the size or scope to compete. As others have stated…the current facility can be for athletics…if new students want to do rock climbing, and such they go to the new spot. but isn't that par for the course? hbcu's have always been underfunded by the state compared to pwc state schools. i don't know that any of our facilities that we have in common with non-hbcu unc system schools are equal or better in quality. so is this new facility suppose to be on par with all of the non-hbcu unc system schools? |
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Apr 26, 2022 5:48:06 GMT -5
I don’t know if you’ve had a chance, but look at the student rec centers at some of the UNCs. Our current fitness center doesn’t have the size or scope to compete. As others have stated…the current facility can be for athletics…if new students want to do rock climbing, and such they go to the new spot. ? hbcu's have always been underfunded by the state compared to pwc state schools. i don't know that any of our facilities that we have in common with non-hbcu unc system schools are equal or better in quality.so is this new facility suppose to be on par with all of the non-hbcu unc system schools? oleschool, You'll get no argument from me about HBCUs being underfunded. I lived it, and saw it first hand during the 90's when I was in school living in Scott Hall. There was no way one could compare that to the dorms my friends lived in at other schools. That said, "we have been historically underfunded" cannot be used as an excuse with students now a days...they don't care. They have options, and will go to schools that have the features they desire. I would also argue that many of our facilities are not "out of line" with other UNC system schools. When you look at some of our most current facilities (dorms, classrooms, student support), they are consistent with what you would see at other schools. The buildings that are not on par have been highlighted and many have been scheduled for renovation and replacement. The area where we are not on par is athletic facilities...and we are all waiting on a plan for that. "Good enough" is no longer enough at NCA&T. We house a greater percentage of our students than most schools...so why, build a new mixed use dorm? We can renovate our old student union...we don't need a new one...we can get by with the existing wellness center, we don't need a new student rec center and rec fields...We have 10K students, we don't need a health center that can support twice as many students...there aren't any HBCUs with R1 status, why put our limited resources into an engineering building focused on research...Our facilities are maintained and clean...do we really need Bell Towers and fancy landscaping. Yes, we need all those things to compete with other schools...especially with respect to student support and athletics. You are dead in the water when kids do campus visits and a campus can't check off the right boxes. I've seen the same trend at other HBCUs in the UNC System. They are putting more money into dorms, student unions, and other student support facilities. We aren't just competing with other HBCUs...it's a new day. |
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Post by bluehaze on Apr 26, 2022 8:59:19 GMT -5
Pleased to see substantial funding into repairs and renovations. Need a parking deck, the larger the better. Parking is one of the biggest complaints of current students and with the increase in enrollment, its only going to get worse. |
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Apr 26, 2022 9:41:05 GMT -5
Pleased to see substantial funding into repairs and renovations. Need a parking deck, the larger the better. Parking is one of the biggest complaints of current students and with the increase in enrollment, its only going to get worse. It was a problem when I was a student...and it's a problem now. We are growing faster than our parking capacity. Where do we put a "large" deck so that commuters have easy access to the heart of campus? |
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Post by AggiePride on Apr 26, 2022 12:12:32 GMT -5
This plan is great, campus will be more cohesive.
Creating more parking should not be the focus, it should be developing and supporting a walkable/bikeable environment in East Greensboro in conjunction with the city for students. The school will never be able to meet parking demand, so shifting the focus away from needing a car to get to and from campus should be the priority.
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Post by Maxell on Apr 26, 2022 12:48:07 GMT -5
We will always be "the little engine that could" and that's OK. The system is not designed for us to be funded appropriately so we must continue to fight. The system is not designed for us to train business owners, land owners or wealth builders but we must fight. We will never catch up to the generational head start of others but we must fight.
The path of the trailblazer is difficult, particularly as a public institution. The state now provides only ONE THIRD of our operating budget, yet we still have to get approval from "massa" for every capital expenditure we make even if they are not paying for it. Martin has transformed us to a public school with a private school mentality. We have to be going forward.
I would expect that we will cautiously use debt service as a tool to accelerate closing the gap in funding, combined with other outside sources. Our key metric on alumni giving is not how much we give, but HOW MANY of us give. The alumni participation rate is a crucial indicator for corporations and foundations of how committed we are to our own success. Most state schools in the US are around 5%. We are around 11%. Top private schools are around 40%.
BOTTOMLINE: As long as we give a little bit, we can create the positional leverage for the school to attract larger capital contributions and debt with lower interest rates. I would suspect if we could somehow get to 20% participation rate, it would distinguish our position in the market place. That could be easily done this year with an all out push on the $18.91 Club at Homecoming. That little $18.91 could translate into millions for the school.
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Post by AggiePride on Apr 26, 2022 13:20:39 GMT -5
As alums, we need to get the ball rolling on that past funding issue.
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Post by aggie2039 on Jun 9, 2022 21:56:58 GMT -5
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