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Post by Maxell on Apr 1, 2022 13:34:00 GMT -5
If Coach can't say HOW he will solve the discipline issues, there is no reason to believe it will change.
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Post by aggie94 on Apr 1, 2022 13:42:39 GMT -5
I still don't understand where this zero tolerance, what gave you done for me lately attitude is coming from? In 3 seasons Coach Washington has 2 BCF national championships, 1 MEAC Coach of the year and an overall record of 24 - 12. Plus in 2018 he produced huge nonconference wins over ECU and fcs #6 Jax State. Hell, almost any AD in America would have offered a contract extension after that! Oh and don't let me get started regarding his accomplishments as our DC under Broadway! Folks be careful of what you wish for. Reminds me of when fans called for Bill Hayes ouster. How'd that work out? Related to lack of discipline, it happens when you have youth, lack of continuity due to unavailability of your better players, things aren't going well, etc. I have to respectfully disagree with this point. While Coach Washington's overall body of work is net positive, the lack of discipline that is being discussed has been present since the 2018 season. It had grown during the 2019 season and by last season it was apparent that there was not much in the way of accountability taking place. I hope it is addressed going into this season.
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Post by moaggies5 on Apr 1, 2022 13:43:34 GMT -5
So, let me get this right 2039. 1 less than shining moment defines his stewardship of the program? I completely agree that the behavior you are referring to with GW is unacceptable provided it's all true (I don't know the facts).
I find it unfair and over the top to declare that Coach according to you is not instilling discipline and accountability. Do you really believe he is not having these conversations with these young men who are amateur athletes? Do you believe he isn't sharing with them the consequences of what happens when you are out of control?
My final point is you clearly have not competed in collegiate athletics. There are so many things that have to go your way to sniff out a single victory. He has come off the heels of inactivity, turnover in staff, a pandemic, and a new league with an unproven QB. News flash, only 1 team can win the CHIP and we finished where the prognosticators said we would in spite of it all. This man has produced multiple championships. And has degreed young men that represent our institution every day in their vocation. These young men are entrepreneurs, engineers, educators, and they've all told us it ain't him.
You can feel that our football program needs a new voice and you may be right. But, I think you are a little harsh in your opinion.
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 1, 2022 13:48:33 GMT -5
You play like you practice. If they emphasize discipline in practice it'll show up on game day.
It will take away from some of the "fun" atmosphere but do you want to have a fun practice or do you want to win some damn games? I've seen Wash enough times to know he's particularly fond of winning and he takes losing very, very hard.
I've never seen the team practice but I'm betting to date discipline isn't emphasized at practice. "But DOOMS, what team sits there and enforces sideline demeanor and keeping your mouth shut at practice?" I don't know, but I know one that needs to. Hopefully Wash gives it a go this year and it shows up on game day.
I'm pulling for him to go out on his own terms.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Apr 1, 2022 13:53:59 GMT -5
You play like you practice. If they emphasize discipline in practice it'll show up on game day. It will take away from some of the "fun" atmosphere but do you want to have a fun practice or do you want to win some damn games? I've seen Wash enough times to know he's particularly fond of winning and he takes losing very, very hard. I've never seen the team practice but I'm betting to date discipline isn't emphasized at practice. "But DOOMS, what team sits there and enforces sideline demeanor and keeping your mouth shut at practice?" I don't know, but I know one that needs to. Hopefully Wash gives it a go this year and it shows up on game day. I'm pulling for him to go out on his own terms. Thrilla been at practice. Tell us Thrilla, is Washington out there pulling an Eddie Murphy all practice or is it serious? It's hilarious to me how his assistants, especially the ones that left, are praised for being great and he is not. Did anyone bash Courtney Coard on his way out? I'll wait.......
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Post by Aggie Monster on Apr 1, 2022 13:56:11 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2022 14:03:16 GMT -5
Is that an article about spring football? Well, well, well...
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Post by 919aggie on Apr 1, 2022 14:17:48 GMT -5
Hopes? lol
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 1, 2022 14:31:19 GMT -5
You play like you practice. If they emphasize discipline in practice it'll show up on game day. It will take away from some of the "fun" atmosphere but do you want to have a fun practice or do you want to win some damn games? I've seen Wash enough times to know he's particularly fond of winning and he takes losing very, very hard. I've never seen the team practice but I'm betting to date discipline isn't emphasized at practice. "But DOOMS, what team sits there and enforces sideline demeanor and keeping your mouth shut at practice?" I don't know, but I know one that needs to. Hopefully Wash gives it a go this year and it shows up on game day. I'm pulling for him to go out on his own terms. Thrilla been at practice. Tell us Thrilla, is Washington out there pulling an Eddie Murphy all practice or is it serious? It's hilarious to me how his assistants, especially the ones that left, are praised for being great and he is not. Did anyone bash Courtney Coard on his way out? I'll wait....... Seemed like a regular practice environment to me. I couldn't detect any difference other than the D-lineman didn't have an official coach.
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Post by A&T-roy on Apr 1, 2022 16:08:05 GMT -5
It's reasonable since he won't be the one playing. He can say it's gonna stop all he wants, but that don't mean the kids will actually do it. Of course, he can keep those from playing that fail to do so.
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Post by aggie2039 on Apr 1, 2022 17:25:52 GMT -5
So, let me get this right 2039. 1 less than shining moment defines his stewardship of the program? I completely agree that the behavior you are referring to with GW is unacceptable provided it's all true (I don't know the facts). I find it unfair and over the top to declare that Coach according to you is not instilling discipline and accountability. Do you really believe he is not having these conversations with these young men who are amateur athletes? Do you believe he isn't sharing with them the consequences of what happens when you are out of control? My final point is you clearly have not competed in collegiate athletics. There are so many things that have to go your way to sniff out a single victory. He has come off the heels of inactivity, turnover in staff, a pandemic, and a new league with an unproven QB. News flash, only 1 team can win the CHIP and we finished where the prognosticators said we would in spite of it all. This man has produced multiple championships. And has degreed young men that represent our institution every day in their vocation. These young men are entrepreneurs, engineers, educators, and they've all told us it ain't him. You can feel that our football program needs a new voice and you may be right. But, I think you are a little harsh in your opinion. It’s not one defining moment, it has happened multiple times since he became head coach. Again reality is that coach is not a disciplinarian and doesn’t hold his players accountable. Beating 5 below .500 teams is nothing to brag about. It’s like being 6ft and bragging about beating a midget in basketball 🤷🏾♂️. Former players have told me it is him and he wasn’t the best choice for HC, they also told me he made poor choices with picking team captains. They said the program was going to go down and it has.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 1, 2022 19:23:37 GMT -5
I am skeptical of your locker room sources. There are always bitter people in every organization, but I doubt what you are reporting is a real consensus.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Apr 1, 2022 19:35:26 GMT -5
It’s not the fact that we finished 5-6. The thing that looms large is that this team as a unit was out of control. Even Coach Washington said they could won 2 more games just by been disciplined. So imagine that 7-4 and maybe you just get lucky with 1 more game and you 8-3 a great first Big South Season
Staff is responsible for team discipline and sets that standard. As indicated in a few post above bringing in new coaches might be the best medication for this team and Coach Washington. Truth be said none of the coaches that moved on were able to set that tone of discipline either.
While Broadway was there he set the tone and all the Coaches could have different relationship with the kids. It took 3 years for that to fall apart. In that 3 years a lot of our players who only knew the Broadway Way graduated.
As retired business executive and now a first year high school teacher and coach…I can tell you from experience kids these days are very immature. Part of its Covid as example the last time high school freshman where physically in a school was their 7th grade year. So multiply that out today’s seniors have the maturity of sophomores. I say all that because many of these kids on college sports teams are not as mature mentally as kids just 3 years ago.
Mixed all that into a team that does not have a lot discipline you get what we just saw. With his contract extension Coach should be able to make the right hires. There are still plenty of quality coaches out there who don’t mind laying down the law
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Post by aggie2039 on Apr 1, 2022 19:57:23 GMT -5
I am skeptical of your locker room sources. There are always bitter people in every organization, but I doubt what you are reporting is a real consensus. When is there ever a consensus about any topic? Actions on the field say they are right
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 1, 2022 20:45:39 GMT -5
I am skeptical of your locker room sources. There are always bitter people in every organization, but I doubt what you are reporting is a real consensus. When is there ever a consensus about any topic? Actions on the field say they are right But you have never been a Washington fan. It sounds like you are drawn to anyone who validates your view of him.
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