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Post by aggie2039 on Feb 18, 2022 11:10:38 GMT -5
It exposed our coaching, not facilities or talent. Facilities is not our issue, it’s coaching always has been and will continue to be if we recycle coaches. Hilton himself even said facilities lack. Literally none of the facilities are comparable on an upper fcs level. Stadium needs a ton of improvement. Corbett is lit like a closet lamp, has odd seating, and literally has a middle school trophy case sitting in it. Moore is ancient. War Memorial speaks for itself. Good coaching will overcome facility deficiencies… Coach Jones has recruited a mid-major lineup… Coaching is our issue… Facilities is an easy excuse
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Post by aggiegrad97 on Feb 18, 2022 11:14:09 GMT -5
Hilton himself even said facilities lack. Literally none of the facilities are comparable on an upper fcs level. Stadium needs a ton of improvement. Corbett is lit like a closet lamp, has odd seating, and literally has a middle school trophy case sitting in it. Moore is ancient. War Memorial speaks for itself. Good coaching will overcome facility deficiencies… Coach Jones has recruited a mid-major lineup… Coaching is our issue… Facilities is an easy excuse I’m not sure where you are seeing excuses. Coaching and facilities genuinely LACK. They even lack compared to a few HBCUs. This isn’t some new revelation. This is addressing a problem, i don’t even see where excuses fit in to anything being discussed, we must be miscommunication somewhere. If you are bad something, you’re bad at it. Point blank. Lay a path to improvement. Both coaching, and facilities clearly lack and I’m not sure why that has to be some “either or” ordeal lmao.
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Post by 919aggie on Feb 18, 2022 11:15:07 GMT -5
I know the coaches are mad as hell! lol
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Post by DOOMS on Feb 18, 2022 11:15:27 GMT -5
South Division Richmond(Football Only) Townson(Football) Charleston Elon(Football) UNCW William & Mary(Football) Hampton(Football) A&T(Football) Well the DMV Aggies will be happy Honestly from my experience none of these schools are diehard "football" schools. They generally just have enough budget, proper infrastructure, and patience with their coaches to do well every so often. The last time Elon fired their head football coach was 2013. The guy that replaced him had three losing seasons in a row and left of his own accord. It's been so long since William and Mary fired a coach I couldn't find any actual information. They may have fired one in the 1960s. Seriously. Towson hasn't fired a coach since 2008. Richmond last fired a coach in 1994. Talk about patience. Their fanbases must not be as rabid, or they just know that the conference is ridiculously competitive and if they wait long enough and their coaches gain enough experience their day in the sun will come. I guess if you're pumping the kind of money into your programs they are then you can make your own sun at some point Well fellas, we've come a long way from no field house, no budget increases, "NC 0 & T," and m&m fundraisers. IMO we're not far enough away from it to sniff success, but the invite is a first step. Here's hoping that we invest very heavily in all facets of the school so we aren't laughingstocks.
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Post by aggie2039 on Feb 18, 2022 11:18:05 GMT -5
Good coaching will overcome facility deficiencies… Coach Jones has recruited a mid-major lineup… Coaching is our issue… Facilities is an easy excuse I’m not sure where you are seeing excuses. Coaching and facilities genuinely LACK. They even lack compared to a few HBCUs. This isn’t some new revelation. This is addressing a problem, i don’t even see where excuses fit in to anything being discussed, we must be miscommunication somewhere. If you are bad something, you’re bad at it. Point blank. Lay a path to improvement. Both coaching, and facilities clearly lack and I’m not sure why that has to be some “either or” ordeal lmao. My issue is that people say we can’t compete due to facilities. Coaching is more important than facilities, coaching has to be addressed before facilities
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Post by Maxell on Feb 18, 2022 11:20:38 GMT -5
That sucks I wonder if we can get a cost analysis on this and does exclusive mean there is no chance for ESPN or nationally televised games … that would be very troublesome to me.. caasports.com/news/2021/8/12/football-caa-and-flosports-announce-expansion-of-streaming-rights-partnership.aspxRICHMOND, Va. (August 12, 2021) – The Colonial Athletic Association and FloSports have agreed to an expansion of their streaming rights partnership making FloSports the exclusive digital platform for live and on-demand coverage of 13 conference sports. The expanded agreement provides a minimum of 850 CAA events to FloSports annually over the next two years. All regular season CAA-controlled football and men’s and women’s basketball games will air exclusively on FloSports on the digital side with CAA member institutions retaining rights for local linear television distribution.FloSports continues to invest in collegiate sports at all levels with this new expanded agreement that includes an increased annual rights fee to the CAA. FloSports is a big negative, period. It costs too much and is too limited. You can't see other games for other conferences. That media deal is a huge, huge mistake for A&T as far as expanded exposure is concerned. It is several steps backwards for any school that wants to expand their fanbase. The two million extra households doesn't matter if they can't easily access the games. -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2022 11:24:47 GMT -5
I know the coaches are mad as hell! lol I think we are going to be seeing some turnover soon which will let us know who wasn't on board with this move. Honestly, it probably what led Coach Gibbs to expedite his goal of landing an HC gig.
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Post by Gator on Feb 18, 2022 11:27:11 GMT -5
Hilton himself even said facilities lack. Literally none of the facilities are comparable on an upper fcs level. Stadium needs a ton of improvement. Corbett is lit like a closet lamp, has odd seating, and literally has a middle school trophy case sitting in it. Moore is ancient. War Memorial speaks for itself. Good coaching will overcome facility deficiencies… Coach Jones has recruited a mid-major lineup… Coaching is our issue… Facilities is an easy excuse The kids themselves tell you that facilities is a major factor in decisions.
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Post by aggie2039 on Feb 18, 2022 11:31:52 GMT -5
Good coaching will overcome facility deficiencies… Coach Jones has recruited a mid-major lineup… Coaching is our issue… Facilities is an easy excuse The kids themselves tell you that facilities is a major factor in decisions. We lose to less talented teams on a consistent basis… Does Longwood and USC Upstate have better facilities than us? Same for GW football. Monmouth has a one sided football stadium
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Post by aggiegrad97 on Feb 18, 2022 11:33:15 GMT -5
Well the DMV Aggies will be happy Honestly from my experience none of these schools are diehard "football" schools. They generally just have enough budget, proper infrastructure, and patience with their coaches to do well every so often. The last time Elon fired their head football coach was 2013. The guy that replaced him had three losing seasons in a row and left of his own accord. It's been so long since William and Mary fired a coach I couldn't find any actual information. They may have fired one in the 1960s. Seriously. Towson hasn't fired a coach since 2008. Richmond last fired a coach in 1994. Talk about patience. Their fanbases must not be as rabid, or they just know that the conference is ridiculously competitive and if they wait long enough and their coaches gain enough experience their day in the sun will come. I guess if you're pumping the kind of money into your programs they are then you can make your own sun at some point Well fellas, we've come a long way from no field house, no budget increases, "NC 0 & T," and m&m fundraisers. IMO we're not far enough away from it to sniff success, but the invite is a first step. Here's hoping that we invest very heavily in all facets of the school so we aren't laughingstocks. Only ones with a football history is Delaware & JMU. It isn’t the same emphasis because they’ll have the money anyway as schools, and it isn’t a crazy college sports region of the country. Got a friend that went to school at UD & said the enthusiasm basically dies anywhere in the north.
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Post by Gator on Feb 18, 2022 11:34:00 GMT -5
In my subjective thinking, our institutions seek status from those who benefit from us being present and not the other way around. One day I hope we return to the MEAC, our own - a conference we built, and use what is learned from this to sustain it, but also see it as our own and not something we're apart of.
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Post by DOOMS on Feb 18, 2022 11:35:52 GMT -5
As far as facilities I don't know if this is still the case, but in the past I've heard commentators during Delaware and Rhode Island football games openly criticizing their press boxes. We might not be as far behind in some spots as we think, but that depends on what schools we're comparing ourselves to.
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Post by Gator on Feb 18, 2022 11:36:14 GMT -5
The kids themselves tell you that facilities is a major factor in decisions. We lose to less talented teams on a consistent basis… Does Longwood and USC Upstate have better facilities than us? Same for GW football. Monmouth has a one sided football stadium Let me understand this, one down year in football means consistent? Considering the fact that we finished as expected based on the early season polls.
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Post by aggie2039 on Feb 18, 2022 11:38:21 GMT -5
We lose to less talented teams on a consistent basis… Does Longwood and USC Upstate have better facilities than us? Same for GW football. Monmouth has a one sided football stadium Let me understand this, one down year in football means consistent? Considering the fact that we finished as expected based on the early season polls. FAMU and Morgan were less talented than us Additionally, look at our basketball record and the teams we have lost too. We have the most talent in BS men’s basketball Polls are people opinion, nothing more nothing less.
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Post by AggieMac on Feb 18, 2022 11:38:51 GMT -5
All I will say is that we are not ready for this move. Financially, competitively, and facility wise. I don't care what conference we are in, all I care about is winning. Winning takes financial support. We cannot compete with institutions who have tremendous backing like JMU, W&M, Villanova, Richmond. The Big South exposed us, proving that their was a learning curve, and now we are about to cross a hurdle I don't think we can cross. I just don't see it. It exposed our coaching, not facilities or talent. Facilities is not our issue, it’s coaching always has been and will continue to be if we recycle coaches. The CAA will expose all 3. I like Hilton and his mindset, however the build on the go idea is not sitting well with me. He's got to know something that is going to happen in the future that we not in the profession don't know. I can only hope.
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