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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 19, 2022 12:10:02 GMT -5
Here is the CAA portion of Friday's Board of Trustees meeting:
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Post by saabman on Feb 19, 2022 12:16:46 GMT -5
The thing about emotions it all in a individuals perception . Some agree and some do not and some don't care either way. Bottom line it's only and opinion and even body has one . As much as I hate the Big S***it I do not feel that A&T or any HBCU that moves to a White conference has not lost their Identity or shouldn't loose their Identity among fellow HBCU's. But with that being said, at this level I do find it interesting that a HBCU conference has to go all the way to Chicago to find a PWI that is willing to join a predominantly HBCU conference. Especially with the concerns of travel and missed class time . Why would a PWI join a Conf whose goal is a championship game that celebrates Two HBCUs playing each other? Robert Morris would be a prime candidate for MEAC football membership. A celebration bowl featuring Jackson state and Robert Morris doesn’t fit the overall intent of the game. So I guess it's OK playing for a FCS championship is ok then 😆 . Do you no that 99.9 % of those teams playing in the FCS Playoffs would kill to get into the CB and get paid and not have to pay the NCAA to host a playoff game and extend there season . You can make all the excuses you want , it's not the CB it's just they don't want to see too many of us 😆 Also to play in the CB you have to first make it to the CB. Don't fool yourself it's not as much the CB , but it is definitely is being in a Conference founded by and full of HBCU Institutions . HBCU'S joining them is acceptable, but them joining us is definitely a NO NO 😆
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Post by saabman on Feb 19, 2022 12:30:54 GMT -5
… I do not feel that A&T or any HBCU that moves to a White conference has not lost their Identity or shouldn't loose their Identity among fellow HBCU's. But with that being said, at this level I do find it interesting that a HBCU conference has to go all the way to Chicago to find a PWI that is willing to join a predominantly HBCU conference. Especially with the concerns of travel and missed class time . Say it again for the people in the back cuzzin. But fyi, Chicago State is predominately Black. Chancellor Martin ain’t playing. It appears he’s the type that sees something that concerns him and decides to take action. For whatever reason the grass at the field ain’t concerned him yet 😂. But he was concerned about our standing amongst ALL universities and he wanted to improve it across the board. As much as I despise the term Aggie arrogance, he’s got it. The audacity to think we can be a meme er of the CAA and actually follow through on it. The audacity to think we can be an R1 institution. The audacity to believe we can be on the level of Carolina and State in athletics and academics. As far as A&T being R1 without being in a pwc, I posted somewhere we could be in the CIAA and be R1 seeing as how Wayne State in Detroit is d-2 and R1. If we’re not interested in that route then I don’t see an issue with moving to the CAA if the administration sees advantages in it. Thanks Cuzo Chicago State is one of the 100 . I always for get about the along with Lincoln in Missouri and Pensole Lewis College of Business and Design in Detroit . Thanks for the knowledge. Oh I was in Greensboro two weeks ago for my sister's transition Ovida Bert it was a blue and white ceremony she was Zeta affiliated .
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Post by aggie2039 on Feb 19, 2022 12:38:02 GMT -5
Why would a PWI join a Conf whose goal is a championship game that celebrates Two HBCUs playing each other? Robert Morris would be a prime candidate for MEAC football membership. A celebration bowl featuring Jackson state and Robert Morris doesn’t fit the overall intent of the game. So I guess it's OK playing for a FCS championship is ok then 😆 . Do you no that 99.9 % of those teams playing in the FCS Playoffs would kill to get into the CB and get paid and not have to pay the NCAA to host a playoff game and extend there season . You can make all the excuses you want , it's not the CB it's just they don't want to see too many of us 😆 Also to play in the CB you have to first make it to the CB. Don't fool yourself it's not as much the CB , but it is definitely is being in a Conference founded by and full of HBCU Institutions . HBCU'S joining them is acceptable, but them joining us is definitely a NO NO 😆 You are mixing apples and steak to make a point. Again, why would a PWI join a conference whose goal is to make it to a game that celebrates historically black colleges? The game is supposed to celebrate HBCUs and having a PWI participate makes zero sense.
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Post by moaggies5 on Feb 19, 2022 12:40:03 GMT -5
I’m not sure where you are seeing excuses. Coaching and facilities genuinely LACK. They even lack compared to a few HBCUs. This isn’t some new revelation. This is addressing a problem, i don’t even see where excuses fit in to anything being discussed, we must be miscommunication somewhere. If you are bad something, you’re bad at it. Point blank. Lay a path to improvement. Both coaching, and facilities clearly lack and I’m not sure why that has to be some “either or” ordeal lmao. My issue is that people say we can’t compete due to facilities. Coaching is more important than facilities, coaching has to be addressed before facilities I hear you 2039, but I surmise that most on this board believe we can do both simultaneously.
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Post by The Professor on Feb 19, 2022 13:22:08 GMT -5
Why would a PWI join a Conf whose goal is a championship game that celebrates Two HBCUs playing each other? Robert Morris would be a prime candidate for MEAC football membership. A celebration bowl featuring Jackson state and Robert Morris doesn’t fit the overall intent of the game. So I guess it's OK playing for a FCS championship is ok then 😆 . Do you no that 99.9 % of those teams playing in the FCS Playoffs would kill to get into the CB and get paid and not have to pay the NCAA to host a playoff game and extend there season . You can make all the excuses you want , it's not the CB it's just they don't want to see too many of us 😆 Also to play in the CB you have to first make it to the CB. Don't fool yourself it's not as much the CB , but it is definitely is being in a Conference founded by and full of HBCU Institutions . HBCU'S joining them is acceptable, but them joining us is definitely a NO NO 😆 If all those schools were dying to get to the Celebration Bowl, then they would lining up to join the MEAC. But apparently the MEAC can't get a school to join
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Post by saabman on Feb 19, 2022 15:54:19 GMT -5
So I guess it's OK playing for a FCS championship is ok then 😆 . Do you no that 99.9 % of those teams playing in the FCS Playoffs would kill to get into the CB and get paid and not have to pay the NCAA to host a playoff game and extend there season . You can make all the excuses you want , it's not the CB it's just they don't want to see too many of us 😆 Also to play in the CB you have to first make it to the CB. Don't fool yourself it's not as much the CB , but it is definitely is being in a Conference founded by and full of HBCU Institutions . HBCU'S joining them is acceptable, but them joining us is definitely a NO NO 😆 You are mixing apples and steak to make a point. Again, why would a PWI join a conference whose goal is to make it to a game that celebrates historically black colleges? The game is supposed to celebrate HBCUs and having a PWI participate makes zero sense. FAMU blew a hole in that mind set last season . The point being 1. First you have to make it to the CB 2. If you don't make it , with the proper scheduling and wins a playoff invite is possible. Also we can not have it both ways . We can play for there ship but they can not play for ours. That's a totally hypocritical way of thinking don't you think .
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Post by saabman on Feb 19, 2022 15:57:47 GMT -5
So I guess it's OK playing for a FCS championship is ok then 😆 . Do you no that 99.9 % of those teams playing in the FCS Playoffs would kill to get into the CB and get paid and not have to pay the NCAA to host a playoff game and extend there season . You can make all the excuses you want , it's not the CB it's just they don't want to see too many of us 😆 Also to play in the CB you have to first make it to the CB. Don't fool yourself it's not as much the CB , but it is definitely is being in a Conference founded by and full of HBCU Institutions . HBCU'S joining them is acceptable, but them joining us is definitely a NO NO 😆 If all those schools were dying to get to the Celebration Bowl, then they would lining up to join the MEAC. But apparently the MEAC can't get a school to join Killing to be in our situation is totally different then being in a HBCU Conference. Don't get it twisted.
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Post by aggie2039 on Feb 19, 2022 16:00:31 GMT -5
You are mixing apples and steak to make a point. Again, why would a PWI join a conference whose goal is to make it to a game that celebrates historically black colleges? The game is supposed to celebrate HBCUs and having a PWI participate makes zero sense. FAMU blew a hole in that mind set last season . The point being 1. First you have to make it to the CB 2. If you don't make it , with the proper scheduling and wins a playoff invite is possible. Also we can not have it both ways . We can play for there ship but they can not play for ours. That's a totally hypocritical way of thinking don't you think . I see what is going on here, have a great day👍🏾
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Post by The Professor on Feb 19, 2022 16:05:46 GMT -5
You are mixing apples and steak to make a point. Again, why would a PWI join a conference whose goal is to make it to a game that celebrates historically black colleges? The game is supposed to celebrate HBCUs and having a PWI participate makes zero sense. FAMU blew a hole in that mind set last season . The point being 1. First you have to make it to the CB 2. If you don't make it , with the proper scheduling and wins a playoff invite is possible. Also we can not have it both ways . We can play for there ship but they can not play for ours. That's a totally hypocritical way of thinking don't you think . What PWI has the MEAC made a membership offer too?
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Post by The Professor on Feb 19, 2022 16:06:52 GMT -5
If all those schools were dying to get to the Celebration Bowl, then they would lining up to join the MEAC. But apparently the MEAC can't get a school to join Killing to be in our situation is totally different then being in a HBCU Conference. Don't get it twisted. If 2 PWI FCS conferences wanted a bowl game , why not apply for a waiver just like the MEAC and SWAC did? What's stopping them?
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Post by marchingband1969 on Feb 19, 2022 16:54:45 GMT -5
She's just saying what a lot are afraid to say . What unprofessional about it , is it just she maybe Right 😆 As a ceo she has to learn not to allow emotions to control her in making public statements. Was her statement helpful, was it necessary, will it inspire change? More importantly in this environment of rapidly changing affiliations why risk burning a bridge? How will any prospective members view such a statement? It was totally unprofessional and classless. Hopefully she'll receive a swift rebuke from the Council of CEO's. Hey I get it... she's got a challenging job now and folks are watching to see what she does to ensure that the MEAC survives. She fired a shot across our bow to distract the MEAC fans from the fact that she still hasn't found another football school to join the conference. I don't think she will lose any MEAC friends with her statement and right now, that's all that matters to her.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Feb 19, 2022 17:19:33 GMT -5
My issue is that people say we can’t compete due to facilities. Coaching is more important than facilities, coaching has to be addressed before facilities I hear you 2039, but I surmise that most on this board believe we can do both simultaneously. We may "surmise" all we want but I'm not convinced yet. I think finding, funding, supporting and keeping coaches that can win at the CAA level will be tougher than we think. I got my fingers crossed that we get our next coaching hires right.
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Post by aggierattler on Feb 20, 2022 18:39:33 GMT -5
The Commissioner of MEAC just letting off steam its like death in a Family you are Hurt but the move to PWI Conference has the feel of Integration. WE LOST ARE Schools Lost Neighborhoods,Business and lots of Culture events and in return what did we gain High School Crime and Fights on the rise lost Black Business and Pride mostly gone Neighbors that once Black have been taken over by White Folks. We are the only race of people that gives our best to others for what to gain a few Dollars to sit on Bus with Johnny and Susan to have a few good Books that are not torn out or Have the N word in it also ask this question would a William and Mary or Richmond move to a powerful Black Conference the answer is Hell No I just think the move to CAA Chips away from HBCU Legacy more and more you can dress up a Pig but will always be a PIG. I honestly think the goal is to ultimately have elite hbcu schools make a D1 conference that is competitive mid major to power 5. Just like we did 50 years ago and that experiment worked. HBCUS reached incredible heights and recognition. - But things have vastly changed. NIL changed the game. We might not be able to out do power 5 schools yet, but we will crush New Hampshire and Stony Brook. Our audience is wider at our school than theirs. Period. We have another opportunity at our generation to move to another level. These people making money moves. We are not the only ones having this conversation. Ultimately we are stronger together / I will always believe that. However we have to plow through paths that are there that are available that before was not available. We will widen that path for our fellow hbcus. In 20 years I see R1 HBCU university is not rare. 56k people in the stands is not rare. I also see a HBCU conference that not only competes in viewership and ratings but with talent on and off the field. It’s the trajectory. But it’s a process. Im going to make a bigger commitment just like the ones before me did when we moved to D1, and our Alumni built a 21k seat stadium and Corbett .. we have to do the same thing. It’s our turn. I haven't, yet, but I'm also increasing my donation level to athletics.
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Post by mthollyaggie98 on Feb 20, 2022 20:38:47 GMT -5
I haven't, yet, but I'm also increasing my donation level to athletics. [/font] [/quote] As am I! #AggiesDo Sent from my SM-G991U using proboards
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