saabman
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Post by saabman on May 3, 2022 21:20:04 GMT -5
I just hope we have more ball and player movement on offense along with low post screens to free up the midrange shots . A motion offense with the size we on hand . Man just hoping.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on May 4, 2022 9:46:51 GMT -5
I think they will all show up but remember how excited this time last year ….we gone tear through Big South ….4 Star Duncan Powell , 6”11 Collin Smith, Watson ….. How did that all work out? . Oldschools right all this has to fit. I could go back and read signings from last year or 2 years ago and see the same level of optimism. Coach is a great recruiter but you got make it fit / work as a unit. But I will say it’s a top notch recruiting class.
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Post by DOOMS on May 4, 2022 9:50:25 GMT -5
To be blunt, either he'll get them to mesh or somebody else will.
Hopefully the administration will give him what he says he needs as far as staffing and resources to make it happen.
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Post by saabman on May 4, 2022 10:13:22 GMT -5
To be blunt, either he'll get them to mesh or somebody else will. Hopefully the administration will give him what he says he needs as far as staffing and resources to make it happen. But TV has to have the ability to Coach , Manage and organize that talent along with utilizing the Staffing and resources that are provided. That is the problem I see with TV .
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on May 4, 2022 12:10:50 GMT -5
Then you have to be smart enough to realize this go out get an assistant that can fill in the gaps. Running program does not require you to be great in all aspects of the game.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 4, 2022 12:27:36 GMT -5
i think john calipari is a perfect example of signing tremendous talent but couldn't make it mesh because they were mostly "1 and done" dudes. that turnover has killed the advancement of kentucky basketball. you would think after signing all of that top notch talent that calipari would've won 4 or 5 national championships by now instead of just "1".
then on the other hand, look at what hubert davis did in his first year as head coach at unc this season? they only had 1 new starter to their lineup which was the transfer from oklahoma (brady manek), the rest were all "returning starters" and they almost won the national championship while kentucky watched from home.
there's a lot to be said for "continuity" in the game of basketball. its not like "pickup ball" on the playground. you need "continuity" and that's where the transfer portal hurts if you sign too many. i think coach jones needs more of those "long term" right outta high school grow with your program kinda dudes like kam langley...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on May 4, 2022 14:57:20 GMT -5
I tend not to post in the "transfer/new addition" threads in basketball, football or any other sport. Don't get me wrong; I am pleased with the new additions in the fold. However, it begins and ends with Will Jones being able to be a better coach, as well as put better coaches around him. Talent wasn't the issue in the Big South. Talent won't be our issue in the CAA. Coach Jones has to be better when it comes to situational basketball/adjustments. We won't be the only talented team in the CAA. When it's the last 5 minutes of a given game, will he design plays and have the players in the right places to succeed??
I told you all last year, we had the talent to be "Big South competitive".....but being COMPETITIVE and WINNING are not equal. We have an even greater chance at having the talent to be very competitive in the CAA......but still lose a countless amount of close games that will have us in the CAA basement.
Coach Jones is my dude.....but he is the rate-limiting factor as to he number of wins we will amass.....not the players we have. It is 5 times as important for him to improve as a coach than to improve as a recruiter. I'm pulling for him....but if he is not improving as a coach or if our athletic dept is not doing its job to help foster his growth.....it needs to be called out.
....now back to our regular programming.....
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Post by babybandit on May 4, 2022 15:29:20 GMT -5
I tend not to post in the "transfer/new addition" threads in basketball, football or any other sport. Don't get me wrong; I am pleased with the new additions in the fold. However, it begins and ends with Will Jones being able to be a better coach, as well as put better coaches around him. Talent wasn't the issue in the Big South. Talent won't be our issue in the CAA. Coach Jones has to be better when it comes to situational basketball/adjustments. We won't be the only talented team in the CAA. When it's the last 5 minutes of a given game, will he design plays and have the players in the right places to succeed?? I told you all last year, we had the talent to be "Big South competitive"..... but being COMPETITIVE and WINNING are not equal. We have an even greater chance at having the talent to be very competitive in the CAA......but still lose a countless amount of close games that will have us in the CAA basement. Coach Jones is my dude.....but he is the rate-limiting factor as to he number of wins we will amass.....not the players we have. It is 5 times as important for him to improve as a coach than to improve as a recruiter. I'm pulling for him....but if he is not improving as a coach or if our athletic dept is not doing its job to help foster his growth.....it needs to be called out. ....now back to our regular programming..... Great Post, I concur 100%
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Post by ohsixrain on May 5, 2022 8:50:00 GMT -5
I don't know...you guys are closer to the basketball program than I but, man it's hard for me to just pile on the coach when you have players making unforced turnovers, lack of execution and missing free throws. The easy answer is to blame the coach. My hope is he upgrades the talent so we don't have those type of inefficiencies. I have heard plenty of great coaches say that their players bailed them out of a bad situation, we need those types of players and it sounds like we are headed in the right direction.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on May 5, 2022 10:15:17 GMT -5
For the most part of the last season, we were a BAD offensive team. There was too much iso-ball. There wasn't good ball movement. Many offensive sets were rudimentary. Offensively, we were a very easy team to scout and prepare for because we just weren't, collectively, well-versed on the offensive side of the ball. That's gotta change if we want to see any type of success in our 1st year in the CAA.
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Post by saabman on May 5, 2022 11:31:05 GMT -5
I don't know...you guys are closer to the basketball program than I but, man it's hard for me to just pile on the coach when you have players making unforced turnovers, lack of execution and missing free throws. The easy answer is to blame the coach. My hope is he upgrades the talent so we don't have those type of inefficiencies. I have heard plenty of great coaches say that their players bailed them out of a bad situation, we need those types of players and it sounds like we are headed in the right direction. Rain it's the coaches responsibility to correct those continual mistakes and replace them if need be regardless of their talent level . Good Coaches make that clear those types of mistakes are not going to be tolerated if you want to see the floor . Also it's easy to defend any team that only plays ISO ball with little to no movements ball or bodies. Hell the movement you see on your defense should mirror the movements on your offensive end . It's all on TV and his staff and yes we should hold him accountable.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on May 5, 2022 12:39:29 GMT -5
I don't know...you guys are closer to the basketball program than I but, man it's hard for me to just pile on the coach when you have players making unforced turnovers, lack of execution and missing free throws. The easy answer is to blame the coach. My hope is he upgrades the talent so we don't have those type of inefficiencies. I have heard plenty of great coaches say that their players bailed them out of a bad situation, we need those types of players and it sounds like we are headed in the right direction. Hopefully we find out pretty early how big a difference maker Dunc Powell really is. Yes, we can be a cleaner offensive set team. Coach Jones has to grow there. I expect that he will. But like you, I saw too many games where we missed handfuls of college-open jumpers, blown lay-ups and FTs that cost us close games. That's not coaching at fault when you get the shots you want and you're consistently missing them. We are going to have 20/7 gym access for players beginning this summer. That should help MBB/WBB significantly with keeping their scoring skills sharper throughout the year. And we might find that our "coaching" looks better as an indirect result.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 5, 2022 13:13:46 GMT -5
We are going to have 20/7 gym access for players beginning this summer. That should help MBB/WBB significant with keeping their scoring skills sharper throughout the year. And we might find that our "coaching" looks better as a indirect result.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2022 13:15:40 GMT -5
I don't know...you guys are closer to the basketball program than I but, man it's hard for me to just pile on the coach when you have players making unforced turnovers, lack of execution and missing free throws. The easy answer is to blame the coach. My hope is he upgrades the talent so we don't have those type of inefficiencies. I have heard plenty of great coaches say that their players bailed them out of a bad situation, we need those types of players and it sounds like we are headed in the right direction. Hopefully we find out pretty early how big a difference maker Dunc Powell really is. Yes, we can be a cleaner offensive set team. Coach Jones has to grow there. I expect that he will. But like you, I saw too many games where we missed handfuls of college-open jumpers, blown lay-ups and FTs that cost us close games. That's not coaching at fault when you get the shots you want and you're consistently missing them. We are going to have 20/7 gym access for players beginning this summer. That should help MBB/WBB significant with keeping their scoring skills sharper throughout the year. And we might find that our "coaching" looks better as a indirect result. The changes are beginning to roll in. Thank you for your persistence here Durham!
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on May 5, 2022 13:27:35 GMT -5
Hopefully we find out pretty early how big a difference maker Dunc Powell really is. Yes, we can be a cleaner offensive set team. Coach Jones has to grow there. I expect that he will. But like you, I saw too many games where we missed handfuls of college-open jumpers, blown lay-ups and FTs that cost us close games. That's not coaching at fault when you get the shots you want and you're consistently missing them. We are going to have 20/7 gym access for players beginning this summer. That should help MBB/WBB significant with keeping their scoring skills sharper throughout the year. And we might find that our "coaching" looks better as a indirect result. The changes are beginning to roll in. Thank you for your persistence here Durham!
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