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Post by trues on Sept 7, 2021 18:53:42 GMT -5
We should borrow this play Our linebackers blew this coverage
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Post by VA's Finest on Sept 7, 2021 19:01:54 GMT -5
Need better eye discipline, plus (and in my best Kevin Har voice) the way our defense is setup we have a front 7 and a secondary. The front 7 is solely dedicated to stop run while as we've all noted our secondary tends to play really soft in order to keep everything in front and prevent giving up the big play.
However, when your LBs eyes are in the backfield and your secondary drops at the snap, it typically leaves a big void right in the middle of your defense. At which point its incumbent upon your safety to diagnose, take proper angle and secure tackle.
When those things go wrong you the previous clip is the result.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2021 19:12:39 GMT -5
Need better eye discipline, plus (and in my best Kevin Har voice) the way our defense is setup we have a front 7 and a secondary. The front 7 is solely dedicated to stop run while as we've all noted our secondary tends to play really soft in order to keep everything in front and prevent giving up the big play. However, when your LBs eyes are in the backfield and your secondary drops at the snap, it typically leaves a big void right in the middle of your defense. At which point its incumbent upon your safety to diagnose, take proper angle and secure tackle. When those things go wrong you the previous clip is the result. It's not eye discipline. It's the defensive scheme.
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Post by aggie2039 on Sept 7, 2021 19:27:46 GMT -5
Need better eye discipline, plus (and in my best Kevin Har voice) the way our defense is setup we have a front 7 and a secondary. The front 7 is solely dedicated to stop run while as we've all noted our secondary tends to play really soft in order to keep everything in front and prevent giving up the big play. However, when your LBs eyes are in the backfield and your secondary drops at the snap, it typically leaves a big void right in the middle of your defense. At which point its incumbent upon your safety to diagnose, take proper angle and secure tackle. When those things go wrong you the previous clip is the result. It's not eye discipline. It's the defensive scheme. It was a well designed play against our defense
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 7, 2021 20:46:10 GMT -5
That and the throws to the backs
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Post by aggieclt on Sept 7, 2021 21:39:10 GMT -5
Big South Announces Football Players of the Week - Sept. 6Also nominated for Offensive Player of the Week: Caleb Snead (Campbell), Darran Butts (Hampton), Jonathan Murphy (Kennesaw State), Ron Hunt (North Carolina A&T) and Takairee Kennebrew (North Alabama). Also nominated for Defensive Player of the Week: Keshawn Thompson (Campbell), Xavier Reddick (Kennesaw State) and Tyquan King (North Carolina A&T). Also nominated for Freshman of the Week: Tyquan King (North Carolina A&T) For the rest of the story: bigsouthsports.com/news/2021/9/6/big-south-announces-football-players-of-the-week-sept-6.aspx
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Post by jackal on Sept 8, 2021 5:49:29 GMT -5
Furman fan here.
I enjoyed the game Saturday. It had me pacing around the living. I've seen Furman blow so many leads over the years that I was fully expecting the Paladins to fall apart in this one. Glad they didn't, and thought both teams played their tails off.
I have enjoyed following your conversation on the game here. I would not stress too much about the issues with the defensive scheme. The Aggie defense attempted to do Furman what literally every opponent tries to do to Furman - put 8 or 9 in the box and force Sisson to throw. Most teams are going to force the Paladin offense to beat them with someone other than Devin Wynn.
I think the Aggie defense largely did what I had seen them do from watching past games under Coach Washington. They seem to play a lot of man schemes and throw a lot of bodies at the offensive backfield. Furman appeared to anticipate that, and executed a lot of RPO-type plays and probed for mismatches with the TEs and RBs against A&T's linebackers. That game plan largely seemed to work.
To be honest, that was the first time I had seen Furman run a good bit of what they were doing in the passing game. Before Saturday (and for the last few years), Furman's passing attack was a combination of slow developing play action or 1 read drop backs. It was refreshing to see them attack an aggressive defense.
Best of luck the rest of the way. It's probably beneficial for both of us to pull for the other as it helps both of our resumes!
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Post by aggie2039 on Sept 8, 2021 7:02:52 GMT -5
Furman fan here. I enjoyed the game Saturday. It had me pacing around the living. I've seen Furman blow so many leads over the years that I was fully expecting the Paladins to fall apart in this one. Glad they didn't, and thought both teams played their tails off. I have enjoyed following your conversation on the game here. I would not stress too much about the issues with the defensive scheme. The Aggie defense attempted to do Furman what literally every opponent tries to do to Furman - put 8 or 9 in the box and force Sisson to throw. Most teams are going to force the Paladin offense to beat them with someone other than Devin Wynn. I think the Aggie defense largely did what I had seen them do from watching past games under Coach Washington. They seem to play a lot of man schemes and throw a lot of bodies at the offensive backfield. Furman appeared to anticipate that, and executed a lot of RPO-type plays and probed for mismatches with the TEs and RBs against A&T's linebackers. That game plan largely seemed to work. To be honest, that was the first time I had seen Furman run a good bit of what they were doing in the passing game. Before Saturday (and for the last few years), Furman's passing attack was a combination of slow developing play action or 1 read drop backs. It was refreshing to see them attack an aggressive defense. Best of luck the rest of the way. It's probably beneficial for both of us to pull for the other as it helps both of our resumes! Thanks for coming on the board. I watched your coaches post game interview and he stated that we played the same defense that he saw from opponents in the spring. He has time to adapt, based on what I saw from our offense we didn’t make any changes over the last two years so you guys were prepared. Best of luck the rest of the season and look forward to a rematch in the playoffs.
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Post by jackal on Sept 8, 2021 8:09:23 GMT -5
Furman fan here. I enjoyed the game Saturday. It had me pacing around the living. I've seen Furman blow so many leads over the years that I was fully expecting the Paladins to fall apart in this one. Glad they didn't, and thought both teams played their tails off. I have enjoyed following your conversation on the game here. I would not stress too much about the issues with the defensive scheme. The Aggie defense attempted to do Furman what literally every opponent tries to do to Furman - put 8 or 9 in the box and force Sisson to throw. Most teams are going to force the Paladin offense to beat them with someone other than Devin Wynn. I think the Aggie defense largely did what I had seen them do from watching past games under Coach Washington. They seem to play a lot of man schemes and throw a lot of bodies at the offensive backfield. Furman appeared to anticipate that, and executed a lot of RPO-type plays and probed for mismatches with the TEs and RBs against A&T's linebackers. That game plan largely seemed to work. To be honest, that was the first time I had seen Furman run a good bit of what they were doing in the passing game. Before Saturday (and for the last few years), Furman's passing attack was a combination of slow developing play action or 1 read drop backs. It was refreshing to see them attack an aggressive defense. Best of luck the rest of the way. It's probably beneficial for both of us to pull for the other as it helps both of our resumes! Thanks for coming on the board. I watched your coaches post game interview and he stated that we played the same defense that he saw from opponents in the spring. He has time to adapt, based on what I saw from our offense we didn’t make any changes over the last two years so you guys were prepared. Best of luck the rest of the season and look forward to a rematch in the playoffs. Prior to the game, I had watched some of the Aggies' 2019 contests. What I saw was similar to what I saw Saturday, which is not surprising considering the coaching staff is the same. I do not think that is necessarily a discredit to your coaches, because if it isn't broke, you don't necessarily need to fix it. Defensively - and I'm not exaggerating - the Aggies did what every team tries to do to Furman. If I'd watched Furman's film as an opposing coach, it's the defensive game plan I would have deployed too. Furman's coaches, I think, did well to anticipate that and counter it in the passing game. Over the last few seasons, Furman has lost a lot of close games against physical defense simply because they were unable to move the ball in the air and force defenses to back out of their face. As a fan, it was encouraging, as it will give SoCon teams something to think about before dropping that extra safety into the box against the run. Offensively, the Aggies seemed like they just could never find a rhythm. The Paladin defense is a tough cookie, though. Like A&T, our defense will usually always keeps us in the game in the hopes that we can produce just enough offense to win.
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Post by jackal on Sept 8, 2021 8:26:02 GMT -5
We should borrow this play Our linebackers blew this coverage Because I like chalk talk and sit at a computer all day, just offering my two cents. I don't think this is a blown coverage. Furman is in 22 personnel (two TEs, two RBs, 1 WR). There's an inline TE to the far side. The H-back, Ryan Miller, is listed as a TE but at 6'2 220 with WR speed is a matchup nightmare for a defense (not just the Aggies, he's a problem for everyone). Devin Wynn, the tailback, is in the slot. There's a fullback offset with the QB. The WR is to the near side. I'm not in the huddle, but this appears to be an RPO. Sisson takes the snap and reads the nearside linebacker. If he stays in the zone, he'd give the ball to the fullback and Furman would have a numbers in the run game to the left side. I think, technically, the left side of the OL run blocks and the right side pass blocks. Because the linebacker steps up against the run, Sisson pulls the ball and throws it behind him. Essentially, the play is designed to isolate that linebacker and make him "wrong either way." If he drops into coverage, Furman runs it with numbers. If he steps up against the run, Furman throws it in the spot he just vacated .
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 8, 2021 9:04:10 GMT -5
Not sure why our coaches didn't pull a Bill Belichick and make sure Miller was the one guy on Furman who would not beat us. I would have double-teamed him on every play and made Deluca and Wynn carry the load.
I immediately saw just from watching the Furman spring season highlights that he was a freak. There is no way I would have allowed him to constantly have a free release to our second level.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 8, 2021 9:05:48 GMT -5
BTW: Sisson has some really good RPO mechanics. The execution of that throw is not as easy as it looks.
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Post by jackal on Sept 8, 2021 9:23:07 GMT -5
BTW: Sisson has some really good RPO mechanics. The execution of that throw is not as easy as it looks. No doubt. I assume that is why we haven't seen much of that in game action. It's a tough play to run. I've seen Furman practice those sets, but never really seen them put them into a game until Saturday.
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Post by saabman on Sept 8, 2021 10:18:59 GMT -5
Need better eye discipline, plus (and in my best Kevin Har voice) the way our defense is setup we have a front 7 and a secondary. The front 7 is solely dedicated to stop run while as we've all noted our secondary tends to play really soft in order to keep everything in front and prevent giving up the big play. However, when your LBs eyes are in the backfield and your secondary drops at the snap, it typically leaves a big void right in the middle of your defense. At which point its incumbent upon your safety to diagnose, take proper angle and secure tackle. When those things go wrong you the previous clip is the result. Why was the OLB lined up inside did he not see the reciever on the down lineman outside hip . The Safety should have communicated that to him . For me that was just poor on-field communication between the players .
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Post by saabman on Sept 8, 2021 10:40:50 GMT -5
Our linebackers blew this coverage Because I like chalk talk and sit at a computer all day, just offering my two cents. I don't think this is a blown coverage. Furman is in 22 personnel (two TEs, two RBs, 1 WR). There's an inline TE to the far side. The H-back, Ryan Miller, is listed as a TE but at 6'2 220 with WR speed is a matchup nightmare for a defense (not just the Aggies, he's a problem for everyone). Devin Wynn, the tailback, is in the slot. There's a fullback offset with the QB. The WR is to the near side. I'm not in the huddle, but this appears to be an RPO. Sisson takes the snap and reads the nearside linebacker. If he stays in the zone, he'd give the ball to the fullback and Furman would have a numbers in the run game to the left side. I think, technically, the left side of the OL run blocks and the right side pass blocks. Because the linebacker steps up against the run, Sisson pulls the ball and throws it behind him. Essentially, the play is designed to isolate that linebacker and make him "wrong either way." If he drops into coverage, Furman runs it with numbers. If he steps up against the run, Furman throws it in the spot he just vacated .It also makes it a lot easier when you see the OLB lining up on the inside and continue use to ignore the back field positioning of the offensive players . That's the first thing a LB should notice when the O breaks the huddle and he should then make the appropriate adjustments . Field awareness and team communication must improve on the defense.
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