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Post by SixtiesAggie on Nov 9, 2021 19:59:54 GMT -5
Really? well how about the power brokers think in terms of relevance per indoor track facility including indoor football band pratice areas. Matter of fact a convention center woud be nice across 29. Why would we build a new convention center in east Greensboro when you already have the Alumni Event Center on campus and Korey Convention Center on Gate City Boulevard. There is not a demand for that kind of meeting space. I thought by now most of the advocates for a hotel and convention center would have done some research on the defunct Howard Inn. It was originally owned by Ed Murphy, who was a DC business man. He owned a supper club or steak house called Murphs by the local professionals. He lost the hotel due to what most of you can't see. That is, the cost to own and operate a huge investment such as a Hotel. I believe he got original financing from one of the federal economic development programs during the mid-sixties or early seventies. However, he lost the hotel due to money problems, and the government sold it to Howard, and they introduced it as a new academic program for their business school. That failed due to several years of financial problems that they could not overcome. Location and empty rooms was the down fall of the Howard Inn. However, The Joplin Room restaurant served great food.
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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on Nov 15, 2021 16:08:21 GMT -5
So because Howard failed decades ago in a completely different market we shouldn't build our own...got it. I'm expecting the same energy for any potential FBS move too...since FAMU failed as well.
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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on Nov 18, 2021 21:15:00 GMT -5
So We now know why The Foundation purchased that land... N.C. A&T foundation announces $60 million mixed-use project in east Greensboro Source:Triad Business JournalThe North Carolina A&T Real Estate Foundation plans to build a $60 million, 275,642-square-foot, mixed-use development in east Greensboro. The Resurgent will be located at the southeast corner of East Market Street and Benbow Road. The first phase will include more than 70 new studio, one- and two-bedroom apartments designed for young professionals and visiting research professors with 10% reserved as affordable workforce housing. The initial phase will also include ground floor local retail shops and restaurants, as well as Class A office space and a parking deck situated on a 7.15-acre site. If zoning is approved, construction could begin in July 2022, with the development opening by the end of 2023. Attachments:
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Nov 19, 2021 19:36:48 GMT -5
So because Howard failed decades ago in a completely different market we shouldn't build our own...got it. I'm expecting the same energy for any potential FBS move too...since FAMU failed as well. If you are going to be the person to own and operate the hotel and convention center, do you have a feasibility study on such a plan. If so, I would assume that it includes a list of potential developers/investors for financing the project, demographics of who will use the facility, location, and whatever else is need to run such a business. If you are one of the investors in such a project, I wish you all the luck. Why do you suppose that A&T does not have the "energy" to move up to FBS football? What would it take to make that move? Are you implying that the folks that will be involved in such a move, don't have the intelligence or expertise to make the move? I would think that it has to do with the lack of money. It may eventually happen, but it will require creativity of you and others to come up with that money.
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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on Nov 19, 2021 20:06:05 GMT -5
So because Howard failed decades ago in a completely different market we shouldn't build our own...got it. I'm expecting the same energy for any potential FBS move too...since FAMU failed as well. If you are going to be the person to own and operate the hotel and convention center, do you have a feasibility study on such a plan. If so, I would assume that it includes a list of potential developers/investors for financing the project, demographics of who will use the facility, location, and whatever else is need to run such a business. If you are one of the investors in such a project, I wish you all the luck. Why do you suppose that A&T does not have the "energy" to move up to FBS football? What would it take to make that move? Are you implying that the folks that will be involved in such a move, don't have the intelligence or expertise to make the move? I would think that it has to do with the lack of money. It may eventually happen, but it will require creativity of you and others to come up with that money. Oh no sir, it's not A&Ts energy...its yours I'm speaking on. Your opposing view on a future hotel and conference center has been mainly based on the fact that Howard failed at theirs. So since we are in the mindset of limiting ourselves based on what other HBCUs couldn't accomplish, I'm requesting you keep this same "we cant do it because they couldn't" energy when it comes to a potential FBS move...respectfully
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Nov 20, 2021 0:08:23 GMT -5
Anybody remember Kent Court?
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Post by SixtiesAggie on Nov 20, 2021 1:27:14 GMT -5
If you are going to be the person to own and operate the hotel and convention center, do you have a feasibility study on such a plan. If so, I would assume that it includes a list of potential developers/investors for financing the project, demographics of who will use the facility, location, and whatever else is need to run such a business. If you are one of the investors in such a project, I wish you all the luck. Why do you suppose that A&T does not have the "energy" to move up to FBS football? What would it take to make that move? Are you implying that the folks that will be involved in such a move, don't have the intelligence or expertise to make the move? I would think that it has to do with the lack of money. It may eventually happen, but it will require creativity of you and others to come up with that money. Oh no sir, it's not A&Ts energy...its yours I'm speaking on. Your opposing view on a future hotel and conference center has been mainly based on the fact that Howard failed at theirs. So since we are in the mindset of limiting ourselves based on what other HBCUs couldn't accomplish, I'm requesting you keep this same "we cant do it because they couldn't" energy when it comes to a potential FBS move...respectfully You misinterpreted or misrepresented my post to satisfy your desire to make a point that is suppose to make you feel good and to belittle me. I am not opposed to a hotel. If you and others feel that A&T should build a hotel, I just want you to explain to me and others how it can be accomplished. Have you or others offered any ideas on how it can be accomplished and whether it is a wise venture for the university to entertain. Perhaps you and others should contact developers like Kotis and Carroll to get an idea about the feasibility of such a venture in North East Greensboro and present it to the university. Consultants have looked at the possibility of a hotel near Walmart and Cone Blvd. I think that idea has been abandoned. Consultants have been paid handsomely to look at East Greensboro for ways to stimulate economic development.
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Post by Maxell on Nov 20, 2021 12:13:47 GMT -5
The A&T Real Estate Foundation is the best thing to happen in East Greensboro in a long time. Other than the HOP project, people are not clamoring to develop East Greensboro. As the university grows, it will be the catalyst for any substantial land use changes and development. Both the HOP project and this one are dependent upon the use of A&T students and staff to be their primary revenue sources whether it be for housing, retail or related businesses.
As we begin to look at East Greensboro as you would any other "college town", the resurgence (pun intended) will continue. Blacksburg is nothing without Va Tech, Athens is nothing without U of Georgia. East Greensboro can be great as A&T moves towards greatness. As A&T continues to embrace the youth in the community through projects such and the Middle College, the Laboratory School and the Child Development Center, it will pay off.
What East Greensboro really needs as many studies and organizations have pointed out is another large (250+) employer. Most of the time those type employers are enticed to an area by a plentiful workforce and tax breaks. As far as the hotel discussion, the other things have to happen first because that type of facility cannot survive on the 10-15 days per year of full occupancy that A&T could support though Homecoming, graduation, and national track meets.
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 20, 2021 12:20:11 GMT -5
The A&T Real Estate Foundation is the best thing to happen in East Greensboro in a long time. Other than the HOP project, people are not clamoring to develop East Greensboro. As the university grows, it will be the catalyst for any substantial land use changes and development. Both the HOP project and this one are dependent upon the use of A&T students and staff to be their primary revenue sources whether it be for housing, retail or related businesses. As we begin to look at East Greensboro as you would any other "college town", the resurgence (pun intended) will continue. Blacksburg is nothing without Va Tech, Athens is nothing without U of Georgia. East Greensboro can be great as A&T moves towards greatness. As A&T continues to embrace the youth in the community through projects such and the Middle College, the Laboratory School and the Child Development Center, it will pay off. What East Greensboro really needs as many studies and organizations have pointed out is another large (250+) employer. Most of the time those type employers are enticed to an area by a plentiful workforce and tax breaks. As far as the hotel discussion, the other things have to happen first because that type of facility cannot survive on the 10-15 days per year of full occupancy that A&T could support though Homecoming, graduation, and national track meets. As I pointed out on MEAC fans, A&T is “leading” the development of east Greensboro and isn’t waiting on the feds, state or local government. There aren’t many HBCUs out there if any that are being as proactive as A&T, this what real leadership looks like and what our community needs versus a lot of talk! Aggie Pride
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Post by KidHeartless on Nov 20, 2021 18:02:18 GMT -5
I'm here for all this growth. Making moves to slowly get up to 20K students
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Post by lobengula on Nov 21, 2021 4:36:21 GMT -5
The A&T Real Estate Foundation is the best thing to happen in East Greensboro in a long time. Other than the HOP project, people are not clamoring to develop East Greensboro. As the university grows, it will be the catalyst for any substantial land use changes and development. Both the HOP project and this one are dependent upon the use of A&T students and staff to be their primary revenue sources whether it be for housing, retail or related businesses. As we begin to look at East Greensboro as you would any other "college town", the resurgence (pun intended) will continue. Blacksburg is nothing without Va Tech, Athens is nothing without U of Georgia. East Greensboro can be great as A&T moves towards greatness. As A&T continues to embrace the youth in the community through projects such and the Middle College, the Laboratory School and the Child Development Center, it will pay off. What East Greensboro really needs as many studies and organizations have pointed out is another large (250+) employer. Most of the time those type employers are enticed to an area by a plentiful workforce and tax breaks. As far as the hotel discussion, the other things have to happen first because that type of facility cannot survive on the 10-15 days per year of full occupancy that A&T could support though Homecoming, graduation, and national track meets. I agree with you here; but this type of employer will have to be able to pay a liveable wage that will be sustainable long term. Right now here in the city is this economic reality that is often over looked by some. This reality is that Greensboro is in the midst of a continuing demographic shift,hence it is in fact becoming an international city which must be imbraced and promoted. however the downsize is that wages continue to be tagnant in this regard relative to various temporary employment agencies. So I am all for growth but it has to be all inclusive as the facts/factors of an evolving new America continues to take shape. Economic power absent poltical power is meaninless. Wde must learn from the past in order to embrace the future.
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Post by AggiePride on Nov 23, 2021 11:38:15 GMT -5
The A&T Real Estate Foundation is the best thing to happen in East Greensboro in a long time. Other than the HOP project, people are not clamoring to develop East Greensboro. As the university grows, it will be the catalyst for any substantial land use changes and development. Both the HOP project and this one are dependent upon the use of A&T students and staff to be their primary revenue sources whether it be for housing, retail or related businesses. As we begin to look at East Greensboro as you would any other "college town", the resurgence (pun intended) will continue. Blacksburg is nothing without Va Tech, Athens is nothing without U of Georgia. East Greensboro can be great as A&T moves towards greatness. As A&T continues to embrace the youth in the community through projects such and the Middle College, the Laboratory School and the Child Development Center, it will pay off. What East Greensboro really needs as many studies and organizations have pointed out is another large (250+) employer. Most of the time those type employers are enticed to an area by a plentiful workforce and tax breaks. As far as the hotel discussion, the other things have to happen first because that type of facility cannot survive on the 10-15 days per year of full occupancy that A&T could support though Homecoming, graduation, and national track meets. I cannot recall right now, but what was the historic center of black resources in Greensboro?
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Post by marlapool on Mar 22, 2022 9:35:55 GMT -5
Many people buy new plots of land as an investment. They build themselves a financial source for many years by investing in real estate. It is quite popular to buy a house, an apartment or any other building and rent it out. After a while, a person recovers their investment and begins to earn money. Investment activities have both pluses and minuses. If you manage your financial resources correctly and invest them wisely, you can earn good money. It is not necessary to refuse to obtain theoretical knowledge.
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Post by A&T-roy on Mar 22, 2022 10:29:45 GMT -5
Anybody remember Kent Court? Me. There was a young lady that lived there (87-88) that I had a YUGE crush on! It was so bad that I was scared to talk to her. #Smh
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Post by Bornthrilla on Mar 22, 2022 10:31:26 GMT -5
You miss 100 percent of the shots you dont take.
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