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Post by Maxell on Jun 17, 2021 12:04:26 GMT -5
A quick question: How are we currently honoring Jesse Jackson on campus? We have the A&T Four statue, McNair Hall and bust, the A&T Four dorms, now the Martin ERIC. I was scratching my head trying to remember what we have for Jesse. Can someone help me out?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 17, 2021 12:38:42 GMT -5
A quick question: How are we currently honoring Jesse Jackson on campus? We have the A&T Four statue, McNair Hall and bust, the A&T Four dorms, now the Martin ERIC. I was scratching my head trying to remember what we have for Jesse. Can someone help me out? its long "overdue" but we need to name a campus building on his behalf. how does the "jesse jackson student center" sound? might as well go "big", its well deserved...
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Post by Maxell on Jun 17, 2021 12:52:03 GMT -5
A quick question: How are we currently honoring Jesse Jackson on campus? We have the A&T Four statue, McNair Hall and bust, the A&T Four dorms, now the Martin ERIC. I was scratching my head trying to remember what we have for Jesse. Can someone help me out? its long "overdue" but we need to name a campus building on his behalf. how does the "jesse jackson student center" sound? might as well go "big", its well deserved... I agree. That would be a big deal. It kinda has a nice ring to it as an anchor facility on campus. I could've sworn we had something already but maybe not. He'll be 80 years old in October.
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Post by bluehaze on Jun 17, 2021 13:07:57 GMT -5
its long "overdue" but we need to name a campus building on his behalf. how does the "jesse jackson student center" sound? might as well go "big", its well deserved... I agree. That would be a big deal. It kinda has a nice ring to it as an anchor facility on campus. I could've sworn we had something already but maybe not. He'll be 80 years old in October. And not in the best of health. Give him his flowers while he can still enjoy them.
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Jun 17, 2021 17:51:24 GMT -5
Rev. Jesse Jackson does deserve to be honored in a good manner at A&T. It is astonishing that he has not been honored in some respect already
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jun 22, 2021 20:14:27 GMT -5
I agree, Jessie deserves the recognition and the honor.
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Post by Gator on Jun 22, 2021 20:21:35 GMT -5
Hmmm...honor him for what? No disrepect, but others are honored based on their financial contributions over a period of time. We all get the donor pamphlets, I don't recall seeing him listed. I might be wrong, but there should be a standard or criteria for this. For it to be this long says something something ain't right!
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Post by Aggie77 on Jun 22, 2021 20:53:27 GMT -5
Hmmm...honor him for what? No disrepect, but others are honored based on their financial contributions over a period of time. We all get the donor pamphlets, I don't recall seeing him listed. I might be wrong, but there should be a standard or criteria for this. For it to be this long says something something ain't right! C'mon Gator! Is monetary donation the only measure of contribution to the University? Granted JLJ Sr. carries some baggage but in my book he is a Civil Rights icon. The question here is honoring him, not necessarily naming a building after him. There are other ways to honor him.
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Post by Maxell on Jun 22, 2021 22:09:52 GMT -5
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Post by Gator on Jun 23, 2021 7:54:38 GMT -5
Hmmm...honor him for what? No disrepect, but others are honored based on their financial contributions over a period of time. We all get the donor pamphlets, I don't recall seeing him listed. I might be wrong, but there should be a standard or criteria for this. For it to be this long says something something ain't right! C'mon Gator! Is monetary donation the only measure of contribution to the University? Granted JLJ Sr. carries some baggage but in my book he is a Civil Rights icon. The question here is honoring him, not necessarily naming a building after him. There are other ways to honor him. I agree, there should be a standard/criteria in place for such honors. I do believe he was honored in the past for his achievements by A&T. His visits back to the university, many, came out of the budget of the university. Don't misunderstand, I am very grateful for the sacrifices this man has made for us, and his contributions to society. Still, you can not dismiss a precedent that's been set by others.
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Post by Aggie77 on Jun 23, 2021 10:54:33 GMT -5
I think the discussion here is honoring him in perpetuity. Gather around kids Uncle Aggie77 has another story passed down from the elders. This reminds me of a friend no longer with us. This friend was at A&T in the 60s when Samuel DeWitt Proctor became President at AYANTEE, and was a very active and passionate Aggie all his adult life. The name Samuel DeWitt Proctor (that's how he would speak of him) probably doesn't ring a bell to most and meant nothing me until this friend expressed his displeasure with Samuel DeWitt Proctor's tenure at AYANTEE. Samuel DeWitt Proctor was apparently held in relative high esteem in the Democratic Party and (my understanding) was fairly well connected to the Kennedys. Which is not a bad thing and not the issue here. I think Samuel DeWitt Proctor came to A&T right before or right Aggie 4 Sit-ins. My friend's gripe with Samuel DeWitt Proctor was, "he was never on campus". Soon after being inaugurated, a year or two, he requested and was granted a leave of absence, to establish or help establish the Peace Corp. Two, three years go by (I think), having travelled around the world, Samuel DeWitt Proctor makes a glorious and triumphant return to Aggieland, within a year he resigned! My friend wasn't here when they announced the naming of the SAMUEL D. PROCTOR SCHOOL OF EDUCATION in SAMUEL D. PROCTOR HALL, but I can only imagine his reaction and just smile. I Am Somebody!
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Post by DOOMS on Jun 23, 2021 11:12:38 GMT -5
I think Gator makes good points actually. I can’t say whether or not Jesse and family have donated to the school but Gator brought back to my mind why my boys and I skipped convocation our freshman year. Jesse was the speaker and we were waayyy hyped up to go see him until we found out he charged his own alma mater like $100,000 to speak.
Now if he’s never donated beyond paying tuition and never used his platform to help us when we basically rescued his a$$ after Illinois then what “honor” should we bestow upon him exactly?
I’m not saying don’t do anything, just maybe honor him in proportion to how he’s helped us. Or offer to name a school of public policy after him provided he can drum up donors. Or give him a nice large section in the Greensboro Civil Rights Museum that should and prayerfully one day will relocate to the campus of A&T, perhaps in the old Dvdley Bvilding right behind the A&T Four statue.
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Post by A&T-roy on Jun 23, 2021 11:51:27 GMT -5
Jessie is an ABSOLUTE A&T ICON. As a matter of fact, he was HUGE in waking me up concerning Civil Rights when he came with Jr and Jonathan my freshman year (83) and we marched to downtown in protest of Apartheid. They also came and we marched in protest of bad Student Voting Rights.
The list of things he's been involved in and done are numerous and far outweigh him not giving to A&T, if it's true that he hasn't...charging $100,000k too.
I hope we can get past his personal improprieties and do what I believe is GOOD and RIGHT.
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Post by Aggie77 on Jun 23, 2021 12:13:04 GMT -5
I think Gator makes good points actually. I can’t say whether or not Jesse and family have donated to the school but Gator brought back to my mind why my boys and I skipped convocation our freshman year. Jesse was the speaker and we were waayyy hyped up to go see him until we found out he charged his own alma mater like $100,000 to speak. Now if he’s never donated beyond paying tuition and never used his platform to help us when we basically rescued his a$$ after Illinois then what “honor” should we bestow upon him exactly? I’m not saying don’t do anything, just maybe honor him in proportion to how he’s helped us. Or offer to name a school of public policy after him provided he can drum up donors. Or give him a nice large section in the Greensboro Civil Rights Museum that should and prayerfully one day will relocate to the campus of A&T, perhaps in the old Dvdley Bvilding right behind the A&T Four statue. Really, a $100,000! You really believe, even as a teenager, A&T paid anybody, $100 large to speak at Convocation in the 90s? I'm calling BullS_ _ T on that. Even if we did pay $100k, did he have Mafia backup or something? That sounds like a two party contract. Also refresh my memory on how "we" rescued him? So is the amount donated the only criteria, or the first criteria and then we judge if you are worthy? If either, then we need to start taking down some names and start reselling. Are we really going measure Ronald Erwin McNair's worthiness based on his monetary contribution to A&T? What's the tally for David Richmond? Zoe Barbee? Maybe they should replace me with T.E. Neal, I probably have given more money than he or she. (not meant to disparage T. E. Neal's social, civic or humanitarian contributions but to counter a monetary first position I think I'm hearing).Lastly, I think a criteria is already in place, it's just that that money now "Trumps" (pun intended) other social, civic, humanitarian, contributions.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jun 23, 2021 18:31:08 GMT -5
Boy we're hard on a brother. I think donations are important but truly can't be the only criteria for being honored. Based on some comments we'd be skeptical of honoring Dr.King because J. Edgar Hoover had some damming tapes on him. Jessie ain't pure but he is a important Civil Right leader and Aggie .
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