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Post by aggie2039 on May 14, 2021 7:05:38 GMT -5
Lol I can't believe we are attached to playing a game at a school that has no tailgating possibilities and has no bathrooms. Amazing It’s about more than sports, Howard is the birthplace of a lot of Panhellenic orgs and is looked upon as the #1 HBCU for academics and old black elites. The nations largest HBCU and #1 HBCU from an academic perspective should always have a relationship in athletics and academics.
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Post by bigpeete1 on May 14, 2021 9:05:41 GMT -5
Some people need to get out more
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Post by DOOMS on May 14, 2021 9:39:46 GMT -5
I personally don't usually stick around and chat with anybody but Aggies when I hit games. But I always felt more at home at hbcu games.
At the same time I always wanted to see us beat PWCs. One of the most satisfying victories to me was when I drove down from DC to Elon and we took up half the stadium and won. Then after the game a ton of Elon undergrads watched the band routine as they loaded up on the bus. I also loved watching us beat WCU and Liberty in my younger days.
The first game I remember seeing in person was Steat vs Wofford in the late 70s. Steat lost. I remember everybody at the tailgate afterwards complaining how Steat had beaten them the year before. That stayed with me. Likewise I remember going up to Youngstown with a team that hadn't lost to any hbcu but had been blown out by Elon and watching us get blown out again. That was really hard.
On the one hand I love the hbcu culture. The festival-like atmosphere. The bands that actually march and play music. On the other hand, I like to see us go out and represent for all hbcus when we beat a pwc (since most hbcus just ain't getting it done nowadays). The question the administration has already answered for themselves and I continually ask myself is which do I like more?
Would I rather we played Towson or Morgan since both are close to me? I'm actually more confident that we could beat Towson than I am we could beat Morgan. Morgan's atmosphere is blah to me personally. Towson has easy parking and sells beer. Our band probably would make the Towson trip but not the Morgan trip...
Would I rather we played Georgetown or Howard? I wouldn't even make the trip to Howard because getting around in DC is a nightmare. But I might be willing to undergo the nightmare out of curiosity to see us beat the mess out of Georgetown. The novelty would wear off at some point and I'd miss "home" but the newness is exciting.
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Post by Maxell on May 14, 2021 10:08:30 GMT -5
What about the black alumni of those PWIs that’ll attend? What about them ? I have seen first hand Black alumni at those PWI say the most insulting things when they are playing a HBCU pointed at the players and get a pass because they are Black . What about them F them !! I've seen and heard the same thing. And trust me we will see more of that from brothers and sisters at Big South schools. The brainwashing and self hate is still rampant even in the mist of BLM, maybe even more so.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 14, 2021 11:11:52 GMT -5
Do you support NCATs FBS dreams considering the schools we would face? absolutely not!! it would be "INSANE" if a&t ever decided to transition to the fbs level, just downright "INSANE"! we do not and likely "never will" be able to outspend fbs schools which means we will not be able to compete at that level except against the "lowest" level teams that we've already had success playing against. but beating the "worst" fbs teams is not justification for moving to the fbs level. have ya'll even seen the "resources" that most fbs/bcs schools have? obviously not if ya'll think a&t can compete with that and succeed at the fbs level. heck, we can't even keep our grass "green", much less outspend fbs schools...
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Post by saabman on May 14, 2021 11:57:05 GMT -5
Do you support NCATs FBS dreams considering the schools we would face? absolutely not!! it would be "INSANE" if a&t ever decided to transition to the fbs level, just downright "INSANE"! we do not and likely "never will" be able to outspend fbs schools which means we will not be able to compete at that level except against the "lowest" level teams that we've already had success playing against. but beating the "worst" fbs teams is not justification for moving to the fbs level. have ya'll even seen the "resources" that most fbs/bcs schools have? obviously not if ya'll think a&t can compete with that and succeed at the fbs level. heck, we can't even keep our grass "green", much less outspend fbs schools... Also OSA where are we going to find the funds to pay other FCS programs to fill out a schedule . I keep telling people that it is a lot more involved when your a FBS Football program. Personally I'm not for the move up only for us to move back down to the FCS.
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Post by KidHeartless on May 14, 2021 12:53:38 GMT -5
People saying they wouldn't come out & support our teams when we're at PWI games is weird to me.... ijs
I understand culture/atmosphere....but dayum
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Post by DOOMS on May 14, 2021 13:25:06 GMT -5
It's probably just as weird to them that people would support a move to a pwc conference.
For every AOC fan there's a MTG fan. Everybody has their preferences.
Does my desire to see us beat pwcs and win a pwc conference stem from a personal insecurity that began all those years ago watching a physically superior Steat team lose to (and continue to lose to) Wofford over the years? I'm surrounded by hbcu grads that expect hbcus to get squished by pwcs when we play them. I continue to have my doubts about any move to FBS even as I watched Liberty and Coastal, two schools we have beaten and/or should've beaten, be RANKED in the top 25.
Man I'm off topic....
Take it with a grain of salt because due to kid obligations I'll probably never make another game until the youngest is through with college, but honestly I've probably seen my last game at Greene Stadium and I won't miss it. If I have a free weekend and I'm feeling nostalgic and they're playing somebody I feel like seeing, I might make the trip to Morgan, especially as Wheatley continues to improve the program.
If we play a night game in a stadium in the DMV I can get to, I'll probably make an appearance. Otherwise it's ESPN+ or somebody's house for me.
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Post by shamerscott on May 14, 2021 14:36:17 GMT -5
you guys are only looking at the move for your self the school sees differently and the football team is not bad the team should have moved up past the big south and moving from an hbcu atmosphere that will be different but what did you aspect us to stay in the meac and keep winning. When jsu starts wining what will they do they will probably move conference or force the swac to get better but for us we got better while the meac got worse
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Post by bigpeete1 on May 14, 2021 15:10:39 GMT -5
What's wrong with dominating and picking up the big check at the end of season. It beats being mediocre
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Post by aggie2039 on May 14, 2021 16:30:15 GMT -5
What's wrong with dominating and picking up the big check at the end of season. It beats being mediocre Mediocre is mediocre regardless, one can win the MEAC and still be less than mediocre. Winning the MEAC is no longer an accomplishment. The track team does not get excited about winning the MEAC, their goals are higher.
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Post by lobengula on May 15, 2021 10:11:52 GMT -5
What's wrong with dominating and picking up the big check at the end of season. It beats being mediocre Mediocre is mediocre regardless, one can win the MEAC and still be less than mediocre. Winning the MEAC is no longer an accomplishment. The track team does not get excited about winning the MEAC, their goals are higher. Right on. always remember that it was Coach Thompson who laid the foundation for the track program but who was inhibited by certain elements within the administration. Check out that radio interview with him and how he was berated but maintained his composure. His students took care of their academics while others well you know the history. Peace
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Post by AggiePride on May 15, 2021 15:29:10 GMT -5
What about us playing a classic like game in the DMV not featuring a team in the DMV?
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Post by Maxell on May 15, 2021 16:27:32 GMT -5
What about us playing a classic like game in the DMV not featuring a team in the DMV? How about Jackson State? The last two teams that Prime played for were Washington and Baltimore.
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Post by saabman on May 15, 2021 17:23:08 GMT -5
What's wrong with dominating and picking up the big check at the end of season. It beats being mediocre Mediocre is mediocre regardless, one can win the MEAC and still be less than mediocre. Winning the MEAC is no longer an accomplishment. The track team does not get excited about winning the MEAC, their goals are higher. A2039 I truly respect your assessments and opinions but it makes me wonder when you say things like this " The track team dose not get excited about winning the MEAC " being a ex-Trackman I can tell you that we are always excited about winning because you are always a muscle pull away from a loss or having a bad day on the track also as far as higher goals all track athletes have that goal to get to the elite level regardless of the conference or competition. Track is one of the few team sports that is mostly individually Focus Driven and the key is to get to the Nationals and to achieve and meet the required standards period conference affiliation has nothing to do with it. Team Selections A total of 31 teams compete as a team at the NCAA D-I Championships. 18 bids are automatic (top two teams in each of nine regions), 13 bids are at-large. At-large selection: The process for selection involves a review of regular-season competition and finish at the regional championships. Regional finish is the first criterion; for example, a fourth-place team may not be selected for an at-large berth ahead of a third-place team from the same region. But, a team with a fourth-place finish, for example, could “push” both the third- and fourth-place finishing team into the championships if the fourth-place team has enough “wins” to be the next at-large team. Wins from the regular-season are only counted if squads beat another university’s “A” team, defined by having competed four or more individuals in that regular-season meet who also competed at the regional championships. Official designations of “A” and “B” teams can be accomplished only after the NCAA regional meets have been completed. Also, only competitions starting September 13 through regional meet weekend are included in the analysis. Additional Individual Selections After teams have been determined, 38 additional individuals per gender are selected to compete at the NCAA Championships. Among individuals NOT selected as members of qualifying teams in the above process, the top four finishers at each regional meet are automatically selected (each must have finished within the top 25 of the region). At-large selection: Two additional athletes will be selected from the remainder of the national pool (and must have finished in the regional top 25) as at-large individuals Also this is off topic and should be moved to On the Track thread
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