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Post by The Professor on Jan 27, 2021 13:54:49 GMT -5
919aggie - I agree on the dry and boring. I've spoken with a few about us having a DJ in addition to the announcer and to do some things during timeouts. Hate to say it but our Little Sibling in Durham beats us (hands down) on this. We don’t need a DJ as much if we had a band staff that learned to entertain more in the stands. Might wanna learn the NCAA rules on playing. It's alot of things ou can't do they we could in the late 90s , early 2000
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Post by blessedaggie84 on Jan 27, 2021 14:29:27 GMT -5
We don’t need a DJ as much if we had a band staff that learned to entertain more in the stands. Might wanna learn the NCAA rules on playing. It's alot of things ou can't do they we could in the late 90s , early 2000 Not to turn this into a band discussion but you marched in the band. You know entertaining the crowd ain’t got all to do with the full band playing. There were many times back then Cold Steel did a bunch of funky drum fills while the band chanted or getting random freshman to dance during that time. The band staff accepted since you couldn’t play full songs they wouldn’t play period. BCU didn’t have much issues even now playing and entertaining their or anyone’s crowd. Again I didn’t want to turn this into band talk. How could we have a more passionate fan base or is that something that would never happen?
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Post by aggie2039 on Jan 27, 2021 14:37:11 GMT -5
Might wanna learn the NCAA rules on playing. It's alot of things ou can't do they we could in the late 90s , early 2000 Not to turn this into a band discussion but you marched in the band. You know entertaining the crowd ain’t got all to do with the full band playing. There were many times back then Cold Steel did a bunch of funky drum fills while the band chanted or getting random freshman to dance during that time. The band staff accepted since you couldn’t play full songs they wouldn’t play period. BCU didn’t have much issues even now playing and entertaining their or anyone’s crowd. Again I didn’t want to turn this into band talk. How could we have a more passionate fan base or is that something that would never happen? I do believe the distance between the fans and the field play a major role in the lack of passion. Furthermore, other schools dont bring fans so it doesnt get the competitive spirit going. Lastly, our band songs dont quite hit the soul button or the ratchet button which our generation likes.
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Post by Maxell on Jan 27, 2021 14:37:23 GMT -5
Might wanna learn the NCAA rules on playing. It's alot of things ou can't do they we could in the late 90s , early 2000 Not to turn this into a band discussion but you marched in the band. You know entertaining the crowd ain’t got all to do with the full band playing. There were many times back then Cold Steel did a bunch of funky drum fills while the band chanted or getting random freshman to dance during that time. The band staff accepted since you couldn’t play full songs they wouldn’t play period. BCU didn’t have much issues even now playing and entertaining their or anyone’s crowd. Again I didn’t want to turn this into band talk. How could we have a more passionate fan base or is that something that would never happen? I'll say this and leave it here. The band takes on the personality of the band director, whether you're talking NC A&T, Atlanta A&T, or BCU. Always have, always will.
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Post by aggierattler on Jan 27, 2021 15:28:28 GMT -5
I have seen on a few comments on other boards that suggest we don’t travel. I disagree but I am also biased. From my perspective we have always traveled well especially to Hampton, NSU, Howard, Morgan, and classics. Do you agree? I would not take what you read from other boards like MFZ and Onnidan seriously right now. It is a lot posters in their feelings with hate towards us right now for our move to the Big South. However, to answer your question, we travel very well to be in a conference that is so spread out. Even when in our dark times before Broadway, we traveled well to away games, that is a sign of a strong alumni base. I agree. And some of these schools don't travel as well as they pretend that they do.
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Post by A&T-roy on Jan 27, 2021 15:37:10 GMT -5
Not to turn this into a band discussion but you marched in the band. You know entertaining the crowd ain’t got all to do with the full band playing. There were many times back then Cold Steel did a bunch of funky drum fills while the band chanted or getting random freshman to dance during that time. The band staff accepted since you couldn’t play full songs they wouldn’t play period. BCU didn’t have much issues even now playing and entertaining their or anyone’s crowd. Again I didn’t want to turn this into band talk. How could we have a more passionate fan base or is that something that would never happen? I do believe the distance between the fans and the field play a major role in the lack of passion. Furthermore, other schools dont bring fans so it doesnt get the competitive spirit going. Lastly, our band songs dont quite hit the soul button or the ratchet button which our generation likes. Yeah, the track definitely dilutes. And we need more soul and ratchet!
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Post by 919aggie on Jan 27, 2021 15:38:45 GMT -5
schools in the swac travel well because their schools are located in the "deep south" where the weather is warm. mind you, we out drew both grambling and alcorn at the cb... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards (Me Rambling Again) To pretend that bands doesn’t have an effect on attendance would be ridiculous. A lot of ppl (including myself) would have preferred Ncat vs Su/Jsu in ATL(Good Bands)...Famu had record home attendance vs Su and the bands had a lot to do with that. Even with our move to the big south..A STRONG BGMM (relocated to the horseshoe) would do wonders for our game day experience. Don’t get me started on how the track around the stadium doesn’t help at all. Also we should have easily outdrawn them BOTH...(Winning program/largest HBCU) Our home games aren’t an “Experience” IMO...Moving forward, How can we convince others that they should attend the game vs watching it on ESPN? Some of my suggestions would be.. 1. More funding to the band ( 100k budget while similar/smaller HBCUs have 500k +) 2. Maybe 500 10$ tickets for the local community (Jsu averaged 30k even while losing..community outreach/band had to play a factor) 3. (The most expensive) Renovate and move the stands closer to the field! (Maybe it’s different for those of you who sit in the reserved section..but I think we are just too far away)
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Post by aggie2039 on Jan 27, 2021 16:03:05 GMT -5
schools in the swac travel well because their schools are located in the "deep south" where the weather is warm. mind you, we out drew both grambling and alcorn at the cb... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards (Me Rambling Again) To pretend that bands doesn’t have an effect on attendance would be ridiculous. A lot of ppl (including myself) would have preferred Ncat vs Su/Jsu in ATL(Good Bands)...Famu had record home attendance vs Su and the bands had a lot to do with that. Even with our move to the big south..A STRONG BGMM (relocated to the horseshoe) would do wonders for our game day experience. Don’t get me started on how the track around the stadium doesn’t help at all. Also we should have easily outdrawn them BOTH...(Winning program/largest HBCU) Our home games aren’t an “Experience” IMO...Moving forward, How can we convince others that they should attend the game vs watching it on ESPN? Some of my suggestions would be.. 1. More funding to the band ( 100k budget while similar/smaller HBCUs have 500k +) 2. Maybe 500 10$ tickets for the local community (Jsu averaged 30k even while losing..community outreach/band had to play a factor) 3. (The most expensive) Renovate and move the stands closer to the field! (Maybe it’s different for those of you who sit in the reserved section..but I think we are just too far away) We could potentially invest more in our tailgate experience inside the fence line...set up a stage and have concerts before the game, bouncy castle for kids.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 27, 2021 16:13:50 GMT -5
schools in the swac travel well because their schools are located in the "deep south" where the weather is warm. mind you, we out drew both grambling and alcorn at the cb... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards (Me Rambling Again) To pretend that bands doesn’t have an effect on attendance would be ridiculous. A lot of ppl (including myself) would have preferred Ncat vs Su/Jsu in ATL(Good Bands)...Famu had record home attendance vs Su and the bands had a lot to do with that. Even with our move to the big south..A STRONG BGMM (relocated to the horseshoe) would do wonders for our game day experience. Don’t get me started on how the track around the stadium doesn’t help at all. Also we should have easily outdrawn them BOTH...(Winning program/largest HBCU) Our home games aren’t an “Experience” IMO...Moving forward, How can we convince others that they should attend the game vs watching it on ESPN? Some of my suggestions would be.. 1. More funding to the band ( 100k budget while similar/smaller HBCUs have 500k +) 2. Maybe 500 10$ tickets for the local community (Jsu averaged 30k even while losing..community outreach/band had to play a factor) 3. (The most expensive) Renovate and move the stands closer to the field! (Maybe it’s different for those of you who sit in the reserved section..but I think we are just too far away) #3 is not possible. We have a nationally recognized track program. Unless you talking about a completely new facility for the football team or track team then just scratch #3 off your list. I tend to think the track aint the reason anyway. Yeah, you would be closer to the action, but that aint why it feels a little boring. And yes, reserve section has a nice feel for the game. You either wanna see the band or have a nice feel for the game. You cant have both in our place. People been complaining about the atmosphere as a little boring FOREVER. But let NCCU come to town or another big game. It aint boring then and I'll go out on a limb and say it has ZERO to do with the band. Its attendance. Yeah, some will say "well the band effects attendance". To a degree, but the band aint packing in 2000 more people per home game. The stadium just needs to be full somehow. Thats winning, marketing and promotions.
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Post by outsidethinker on Jan 27, 2021 16:14:25 GMT -5
We don’t need a DJ as much if we had a band staff that learned to entertain more in the stands. Might wanna learn the NCAA rules on playing. It's alot of things ou can't do they we could in the late 90s , early 2000 I assume those rules apply to the SWAC as well...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 27, 2021 16:22:45 GMT -5
schools in the swac travel well because their schools are located in the "deep south" where the weather is warm. mind you, we out drew both grambling and alcorn at the cb... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards (Me Rambling Again) To pretend that bands doesn’t have an effect on attendance would be ridiculous. A lot of ppl (including myself) would have preferred Ncat vs Su/Jsu in ATL(Good Bands)...Famu had record home attendance vs Su and the bands had a lot to do with that. Even with our move to the big south..A STRONG BGMM (relocated to the horseshoe) would do wonders for our game day experience. Don’t get me started on how the track around the stadium doesn’t help at all. Also we should have easily outdrawn them BOTH...(Winning program/largest HBCU) Our home games aren’t an “Experience” IMO...Moving forward, How can we convince others that they should attend the game vs watching it on ESPN? Some of my suggestions would be.. 1. More funding to the band ( 100k budget while similar/smaller HBCUs have 500k +) 2. Maybe 500 10$ tickets for the local community (Jsu averaged 30k even while losing..community outreach/band had to play a factor) 3. (The most expensive) Renovate and move the stands closer to the field! (Maybe it’s different for those of you who sit in the reserved section..but I think we are just too far away) check the national hbcu attendance "stats". "generally", the further north you go (where weather is colder), the fewer fans attend. to the contrary, the further south you go, the more fans attend. there's a reason that schools like famu, southern, and jackson state have large fanbases and it ain't because of their bands. instead its because they're located in "warm weather" states. there's a reason most of your "bowl games" are held in the deep south. band entertainment is "frosting on the cake" for most fans, not the "primary attraction"...
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Post by The Professor on Jan 27, 2021 16:30:18 GMT -5
Might wanna learn the NCAA rules on playing. It's alot of things ou can't do they we could in the late 90s , early 2000 Not to turn this into a band discussion but you marched in the band. You know entertaining the crowd ain’t got all to do with the full band playing. There were many times back then Cold Steel did a bunch of funky drum fills while the band chanted or getting random freshman to dance during that time. The band staff accepted since you couldn’t play full songs they wouldn’t play period. BCU didn’t have much issues even now playing and entertaining their or anyone’s crowd. Again I didn’t want to turn this into band talk. How could we have a more passionate fan base or is that something that would never happen? BCU plays 1 or 2 mins snippets. Bands do things for 1st downs. In the past A&T has received 15 yard penalties and the band was blamed for the team losing in the early 2000s. Hence why they sit there now.
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Post by The Professor on Jan 27, 2021 16:31:37 GMT -5
Might wanna learn the NCAA rules on playing. It's alot of things ou can't do they we could in the late 90s , early 2000 I assume those rules apply to the SWAC as well... The SWAC doesn't care. They take the 15 yard penalty and keep right on Here is my favorite clip when Southern Band gave a middle finger to the football team and cost them 15 yards youtu.be/Tz5jycoFmcI
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Post by blessedaggie84 on Jan 27, 2021 16:40:38 GMT -5
Not to turn this into a band discussion but you marched in the band. You know entertaining the crowd ain’t got all to do with the full band playing. There were many times back then Cold Steel did a bunch of funky drum fills while the band chanted or getting random freshman to dance during that time. The band staff accepted since you couldn’t play full songs they wouldn’t play period. BCU didn’t have much issues even now playing and entertaining their or anyone’s crowd. Again I didn’t want to turn this into band talk. How could we have a more passionate fan base or is that something that would never happen? BCU plays 1 or 2 mins snippets. Bands do things for 1st downs. In the past A&T has received 15 yard penalties and the band was blamed for the team losing in the early 2000s. Hence why they sit there now. They (BCU) learned to adapt though, it works and very effective. We could have done the same we just selected not to. That is for the band staff to work on and as Maxell said the band takes on the personality of the band director.
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Post by blessedaggie84 on Jan 27, 2021 16:47:48 GMT -5
(Me Rambling Again) To pretend that bands doesn’t have an effect on attendance would be ridiculous. A lot of ppl (including myself) would have preferred Ncat vs Su/Jsu in ATL(Good Bands)...Famu had record home attendance vs Su and the bands had a lot to do with that. Even with our move to the big south..A STRONG BGMM (relocated to the horseshoe) would do wonders for our game day experience. Don’t get me started on how the track around the stadium doesn’t help at all. Also we should have easily outdrawn them BOTH...(Winning program/largest HBCU) Our home games aren’t an “Experience” IMO...Moving forward, How can we convince others that they should attend the game vs watching it on ESPN? Some of my suggestions would be.. 1. More funding to the band ( 100k budget while similar/smaller HBCUs have 500k +) 2. Maybe 500 10$ tickets for the local community (Jsu averaged 30k even while losing..community outreach/band had to play a factor) 3. (The most expensive) Renovate and move the stands closer to the field! (Maybe it’s different for those of you who sit in the reserved section..but I think we are just too far away) check the national hbcu attendance "stats". "generally", the further north you go (where weather is colder), the fewer fans attend. to the contrary, the further south you go, the more fans attend. there's a reason that schools like famu, southern, and jackson state have large fanbases and it ain't because of their bands. instead its because they're located in "warm weather" states. there's a reason most of your "bowl games" are held in the deep south. band entertainment is "frosting on the cake" for most fans, not the "primary attraction"... Could the reason they have large fanbases also be because they had strong football teams in past years. They were the top HBCU programs for a very long time. The further north you go for HBCU football there does not seem to be a strong passion for football like the deep south, if there was I would believe even in the cold those fans would be out there.
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