oleschoolaggie
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 4, 2022 13:12:03 GMT -5
does it show how many have died as a result of the taking the jab? in other words, does it show how many have died "because of" the vaccine? dying because of covid even though having been fully vaccinated is totally different from dying "because" the vaccine itself killed them. for my own best interests, i try to stay on top of as much covid information as possible. but i don't recall seeing the number of people who have died "because" the vaccine itself killed them. "worldwide" i think i recall that there may have been an extreme "few" who died due to the vaccine itself. i'm "guessing" but i think it was once stated that there's less than 100 people "worldwide" who died because of adverse reactions to any of the vaccines...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 4, 2022 13:19:49 GMT -5
covid-101.org/science/how-many-people-have-died-from-the-vaccine-in-the-u-s/How many people have died from the vaccine in the U.S.?
Published: June 14, 2021 Emily Smith, ScD MPH Updated July 23, 2021Over 339 million vaccine doses were given to 187.2 million people in the US as of July 19, 2021. The vaccines have been proven to be safe and effective. Vaccination is happening under the most intensive safety monitoring in U.S. history. How do we know if someone dies after getting a vaccine? The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires vaccination providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). When these reports are received, doctors from CDC and FDA review death certificates, autopsies, and medical records to understand what happened with each person. How many people have died after getting a vaccine?Between December 2020 and July 19th, 2021, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018% of doses) among people who got a vaccine, but this does not mean the vaccine caused these deaths. Doctors and safety monitors carefully review the details of each case to see if it might be linked to the vaccine. There are three deaths that appear to be linked to blood clots that occurred after people got the J&J vaccine. Since we now know how to correctly treat people who develop these blood clots, future deaths related to this very rare side effect can be prevented. After careful review of the additional data, doctors have decided that there is no evidence at all that the vaccines contributed to the other patient deaths. Nonetheless, the CDC and FDA will continue to investigate every single report of death (and other adverse events) reported to VAERS. By way of comparison, getting COVID-19 while unvaccinated poses a grave risk; as of July 23, 2021, more than 610,000 deaths have been attributed to the virus in the US alone. Not everyone who dies while having COVID is counted towards this total. Suppose someone who tested positive for COVID-19 was killed in a car accident. The car accident would be the cause of death. This person would be counted as having “died with” COVID, not as having “died of” COVID.
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Freeze
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Post by Freeze on Jan 4, 2022 15:53:14 GMT -5
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Post by lobengula on Jan 4, 2022 23:30:31 GMT -5
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Post by lobengula on Jan 4, 2022 23:32:21 GMT -5
Maybe we are at that point wherein that these are the times that try men's Soul
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 5, 2022 16:55:10 GMT -5
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Post by lobengula on Jan 6, 2022 12:13:17 GMT -5
So do you see a possible return of shelter in place due to the current spike?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 6, 2022 12:38:28 GMT -5
No. The NC governor and local officials no longer have the political capital to institute such a mandate.
That was before the feds sent out stimulus checks and made the vaccine readily accessible to everyone.
BTW: That policy was initially driven to alleviate the strain on hospitals and our public heath systems. Right now the vast majority if COVID-related hospitalizations are people who are unvaccinated.
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Post by lobengula on Jan 6, 2022 21:22:11 GMT -5
Maybe we are at that point wherein that these are the times that try men's Soul www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2017/12/27 On my laptop trying to bring up something interesting you may have to do search on site for this information.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 6, 2022 23:40:40 GMT -5
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Post by Aggie One on Jan 7, 2022 16:32:37 GMT -5
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Post by lobengula on Jan 7, 2022 19:19:56 GMT -5
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Post by bluehaze on Jan 7, 2022 19:31:35 GMT -5
That wasn’t misinformation or fake news. Also wasn’t anti vaccine information either, so not sure how this ties to freeze.
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Post by lobengula on Jan 8, 2022 8:33:54 GMT -5
That wasn’t misinformation or fake news. Also wasn’t anti vaccine information either, so not sure how this ties to freeze. Much Respect bluehaze;I was not being facetious. My point was that freedom of speech is one of the ideas that make our society unique in this regard. While I do not subscribe to those on the right extreme views they do have the right to reveal how silly they are. Nor was i throwing shade at freeze nor trying to make an ad hominem attack. Being that we are suppose to be educated my aim was to introduce information for the sake of clarity in fregards to this crime against humanity. I have been accused by a certain individual/individuals for fostering misinformation. As one who came to A&T and sought to be on the right side of history; I am happy for that experience as all that I seek is truth and relevancy. Also the brother who talked about the bodies from the onset of Covid reefer trucks were in fact dispatched to New York and the funeral homes were in fact over loaded with bodies. In light of this surge /spike in the plague I think more than ever that we as a community need to convene a town hall about this crisis with some of our brilliant scholars not the darlings who have been validated by the pressitutes and who are not attentive to our struggles as we enter into a period of confusion and fear despite all pronouncements to the contrary. Finally I will not insult your intelligence as it relates to this virus for in essence it is a crime against humanity for population control. Salzberg's article is worthy of serious reading and discussions. I know and expect that i will be denounce by a particular individual which does dispute the reality of the times which is that we as a people face genocide including an incipient fratricide ; all against a backdrop of an attempt to make us irrelevant and extinct due to the socio-economic demographic seismic shifts which is real.
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Post by lobengula on Jan 10, 2022 12:10:26 GMT -5
Given the current state of affairs do you still believe that the political capital will require another shelter in place mandate? By the way if you perused the Forbes articles do you still maintain that I am insincere?
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