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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Dec 23, 2020 12:53:40 GMT -5
Here is the stat of the night . Langley, Duiling, Lyons individually had more rebounds than Q. Jones, T Jones , Harry, Filmore , and Grier combined.
Langley - 8 rebounds Duling 6 rebounds - Lyons 8 rebounds The 5 guys above who play the 4 or 5 .... 7 rebounds combined
That’s completely embarrassing. What I noticed with our bigs all of them collapse in the paint. What I mean is you got plant your feet and use your Azzz to create space. I see them put their hands out in position to rebound but if opposing teams player makes any contact our bigs collapse and end up out of position for rebounds
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Post by saabman on Dec 23, 2020 14:30:25 GMT -5
Saabman, Listen mane, our big men are SOFT. Hell, play all 3 together (Jones, Greer, Morrice) for 40 minutes......I guarantee you that when you look at the box score at the end of the game.....LANGLEY would still end up being our leading rebounder. These dudes scare nobody. You (nor anyone else) cannot talk them into being tough. They may show occasional flashes, but for the most part, the word that keeps coming up in my mind when the bigs are out there is SOFT. Maybe they get better when the MEAC regular season comes into play...but man, the OOC schedule in December revealed a lot about them, collectively. You can not make that type of assessment about Harry or Greer because they have never been given the opportunity to play 20 or 30 minutes now that assessment is a proven fact for the other Bigs that get the majority of the playing time . Don't use Harry and Greer as your Scapegoats because they are the two biggest targets. You mention that they show occasional flashes by they are you referring to Harry and Greer ? If you are talking about Harry or Greer ask yourself, why does Jones give them the Hook when those Flashes appear and not let them continue to play . Hale even Sinclair Colert who was not even a average player in high school but he blossomed in college because coach Warren Reynolds coached him up and gave him a butt load of minutes and the only way Reynolds pulled Sinclair from the game was for a rest or he was in foul trouble and the rest was history. This dude is a one dimensional coach and is just trying to make it through this season with the hope that next season would be his pot of gold .
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Post by saabman on Dec 23, 2020 14:41:25 GMT -5
Here is the stat of the night . Langley, Duiling, Lyons individually had more rebounds than Q. Jones, T Jones , Harry, Filmore , and Grier combined. Langley - 8 rebounds Duling 6 rebounds - Lyons 8 rebounds The 5 guys above who play the 4 or 5 .... 7 rebounds combined That’s completely embarrassing. What I noticed with our bigs all of them collapse in the paint. What I mean is you got plant your feet and use your Azzz to create space. I see them put their hands out in position to rebound but if opposing teams player makes any contact our bigs collapse and end up out of position for rebounds You need to remove Harry and Greer from that list . Hale that has been the theme all year Langley, Duiling, Lyons because Harry and Greer are sitting and Q. Jones, T Jones , Filmore get all the minutes. Again that stated from the very beginning of the season with Langley getting more rebounds then you forwards and Center Harry and Greer we're still on the bench so you cannot pin this on them Try as you might the Bigs that you should be focusing on are Both the Jones boys and Filmore not Harry and Greer You have to play a player significant minutes before you can perform and successful assessment of the player .
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Post by aggieepower1990 on Dec 23, 2020 15:37:23 GMT -5
The Bigs are soft. Too soft to box out or fight for inside position. This does not mean they are not good players just not physically imposing and more finesse players. All of our bigs would be better if we had one Claude Williams Type Enforcer-Athlete-Scorer with a b-ball IQ. Then they could play their natural fitness, second and third rebounder roles.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Dec 23, 2020 15:51:30 GMT -5
Here is the stat of the night . Langley, Duiling, Lyons individually had more rebounds than Q. Jones, T Jones , Harry, Filmore , and Grier combined. Langley - 8 rebounds Duling 6 rebounds - Lyons 8 rebounds The 5 guys above who play the 4 or 5 .... 7 rebounds combined That’s completely embarrassing. What I noticed with our bigs all of them collapse in the paint. What I mean is you got plant your feet and use your Azzz to create space. I see them put their hands out in position to rebound but if opposing teams player makes any contact our bigs collapse and end up out of position for rebounds You need to remove Harry and Greer from that list . Hale that has been the theme all year Langley, Duiling, Lyons because Harry and Greer are sitting and Q. Jones, T Jones , Filmore get all the minutes. Again that stated from the very beginning of the season with Langley getting more rebounds then you forwards and Center Harry and Greer we're still on the bench so you cannot pin this on them Try as you might the Bigs that you should be focusing on are Both the Jones boys and Filmore not Harry and Greer You have to play a player significant minutes before you can perform and successful assessment of the player . Ok let’s look at it from a different perspective Q Jones , T Jones and Filmore played a total of 42 minutes and combined for 4 rebounds 😐
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Post by pj on Dec 23, 2020 16:53:33 GMT -5
You all make good points. However I still believe ( without seeing the teams that we are going to play in the League, except NCCU a bit), that we are a tall team. Idk what Coach will do and who he will play, but the back to back games suggests that we will need the bench. That's why I wanted to see a few more guys play last night (once the game was somewhat decided.) Blake, Fred, Tyler did not play. I think that we are deeper because of guys being out and others getting in. I'm looking for a different story in the League.
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Post by saabman on Dec 23, 2020 16:57:19 GMT -5
You need to remove Harry and Greer from that list . Hale that has been the theme all year Langley, Duiling, Lyons because Harry and Greer are sitting and Q. Jones, T Jones , Filmore get all the minutes. Again that stated from the very beginning of the season with Langley getting more rebounds then you forwards and Center Harry and Greer we're still on the bench so you cannot pin this on them Try as you might the Bigs that you should be focusing on are Both the Jones boys and Filmore not Harry and Greer You have to play a player significant minutes before you can perform and successful assessment of the player . Ok let’s look at it from a different perspective Q Jones , T Jones and Filmore played a total of 42 minutes and combined for 4 rebounds 😐 Now you are correct and I wholeheartedly agree with you. Now what would it take to get Harry and Greer at least one game with 42 minutes on the Court . That all I'm asking for is one game of extended minutes and then look at there numbers if there numbers are below the 3 mentioned above I will never comment on Jones's coaching style again . I'm a believer in my gut feelings that both can be productive if allowed to play not looking over there shoulder for the hook .
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Dec 23, 2020 22:28:39 GMT -5
I don't believe Harry or Greer can play 10 minutes in a game. I definitely don't believe either could play 42 minutes without fouling out.
Saabman, evidently the coaches know something we don't know about these two players because if they could really "ball" they would be playing more minutes.
I do believe they both are projects. I have seen some very good Big men at T from the early 60's to present. Neither of these players have those skills to "me".
Granted, the only way to enhance your skills is to play. However, if your skills are very limited then your playing time is limited.
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Post by saabman on Dec 23, 2020 23:31:26 GMT -5
I don't believe Harry or Greer can play 10 minutes in a game. I definitely don't believe either could play 42 minutes without fouling out. Saabman, evidently the coaches know something we don't know about these two players because if they could really "ball" they would be playing more minutes. I do believe they both are projects. I have seen some very good Big men at T from the early 60's to present. Neither of these players have those skills to "me". Granted, the only way to enhance your skills is to play. However, if your skills are very limited then your playing time is limited. AB2 I respect your assessment but I will have to agree to disagree with you . We have 3 starting Bigs that are continually out rebound by our Guards for God sake a guy that is barely 6' but yet we do not see anything wrong with that ? But yet I'm hearing that our Bigs are Soft Hell which Bigs are you talking about the ones that play all must the entire game with 4 rebounds between them or the two that make a cameo entrance and and exit and may get one or two rebounds block or Ultra a shot and Heaven help them if they score a basket , then they will definitely get the hook and back to the bench.So what if they foul out aggressive player's do that hell that maybe the problem with the other 3 bigs they are more worried about fouling then they are about playing aggressively. Physical players get fouls called on them I guarantee you this if Harry and Greer are allowed to play expanded minutes there production would be better for the team than the 3 other so called Bigs all together and that comes with scoring to because Harry can shoot the 3 just as good as Q.Jones can . But that is to much to ask of Jones to try Greer and Harry on the floor at the same time . Also someone said that Q. Jones had the experience from playing in the MEAC . Well if he has that experience it is not showing up when it comes to both Defensive and Offensive rebounding are play defense. You said that Jones and the coaches may know something we don't, I'm willing to bet that the only thing Jones and his staff knows is they are waiting for next season when they will have this so called super team in the BS . Give the guys just one game with out the hook before conference competitions start . Because A&T will need them down the stretch and if they fail this is all on Jones for not preparing them.
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Post by A&T-roy on Dec 24, 2020 0:29:04 GMT -5
I don't believe Harry or Greer can play 10 minutes in a game. I definitely don't believe either could play 42 minutes without fouling out. Saabman, evidently the coaches know something we don't know about these two players because if they could really "ball" they would be playing more minutes. I do believe they both are projects. I have seen some very good Big men at T from the early 60's to present. Neither of these players have those skills to "me". Granted, the only way to enhance your skills is to play. However, if your skills are very limited then your playing time is limited. AB2 I respect your assessment but I will have to agree to disagree with you . We have 3 starting Bigs that are continually out rebound by our Guards for God sake a guy that is barely 6' but yet we do not see anything wrong with that ? But yet I'm hearing that our Bigs are Soft Hell which Bigs are you talking about the ones that play all must the entire game with 4 rebounds between them or the two that make a cameo entrance and and exit and may get one or two rebounds block or Ultra a shot and Heaven help them if they score a basket , then they will definitely get the hook and back to the bench.So what if they foul out aggressive player's do that hell that maybe the problem with the other 3 bigs they are more worried about fouling then they are about playing aggressively. Physical players get fouls called on them I guarantee you this if Harry and Greer are allowed to play expanded minutes there production would be better for the team than the 3 other so called Bigs all together and that comes with scoring to because Harry can shoot the 3 just as good as Q.Jones can . But that is to much to ask of Jones to try Greer and Harry on the floor at the same time . Also someone said that Q. Jones had the experience from playing in the MEAC . Well if he has that experience it is not showing up when it comes to both Defensive and Offensive rebounding are play defense. You said that Jones and the coaches may know something we don't, I'm willing to bet that the only thing Jones and his staff knows is they are waiting for next season when they will have this so called super team in the BS . Give the guys just one game with out the hook before conference competitions start . Because A&T will need them down the stretch and if they fail this is all on Jones for not preparing them. It's Tyler Jones that has MEAC experience. I played at UMES.
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Post by pommie on Dec 24, 2020 3:14:32 GMT -5
At least there are 10 days without basketball. Happy holidays.
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Post by VA's Finest on Dec 24, 2020 9:55:54 GMT -5
At least there are 10 days without basketball. Happy holidays. Same to you and yours.
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Dec 24, 2020 11:57:27 GMT -5
At least there are 10 days without basketball. Happy holidays. Same to you as well!
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Post by pj on Dec 24, 2020 13:41:47 GMT -5
The back to back games will reveal our depth.
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Post by saabman on Dec 24, 2020 16:53:52 GMT -5
HAVE A HAPPY AND SAFE HOLIDAYS
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