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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 21, 2020 13:14:10 GMT -5
Let schedule a Game with them and welcome Prime Time to HBCU Football. after next spring, a&t cannot welcome "anybody" to hbcu football... |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 21, 2020 13:48:20 GMT -5
Why not? We stop being an HBCU after next spring?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 21, 2020 13:58:49 GMT -5
Why not? We stop being an HBCU after next spring? no a&t will not stop being an hbcu, but a&t will "stop supporting" hbcu football and instead support pwc football. pretty "hypocritical" to abandon hbcu football in favor of a pwc conference but yet welcome someone else to support hbcu football... |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 21, 2020 15:15:59 GMT -5
But we are still the class of HBCU football.
It is just like Air Force One. The president could hop on a Delta commercial jet and that plane would instantly be considered Air Force One.
The name is in reference to him, not the other way around.
Likewise, whenever we step on a field A&T is regarded as the best program in HBCU football.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 22, 2020 11:10:05 GMT -5
But we are still the class of HBCU football. It is just like Air Force One. The president could hop on a Delta commercial jet and that plane would instantly be considered Air Force One. The name is in reference to him, not the other way around. Likewise, whenever we step on a field A&T is regarded as the best program in HBCU football. that's quite a "spin", because a&t will no longer represent hbcu football since it abandoned hbcu football and the hbcu celebration bowl to lock arms with a bunch of pwc's. how is a&t gonna welcome a coach to hbcu football when a&t doesn't support hbcu football itself? very "hypocritical" in my opinion... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards |
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Post by A&T-roy on Sept 22, 2020 11:33:13 GMT -5
But we are still the class of HBCU football. It is just like Air Force One. The president could hop on a Delta commercial jet and that plane would instantly be considered Air Force One. The name is in reference to him, not the other way around. Likewise, whenever we step on a field A&T is regarded as the best program in HBCU football. that's quite a "spin", because a&t will no longer represent hbcu football since it abandoned hbcu football and the hbcu celebration bowl to lock arms with a bunch of pwc's. how is a&t gonna welcome a coach to hbcu football when a&t doesn't support hbcu football itself? very "hypocritical" in my opinion... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards oleschool - We'll be supporting HBCU football with our Hampton, NCCU and games HBCU games we play.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 22, 2020 12:05:10 GMT -5
that's quite a "spin", because a&t will no longer represent hbcu football since it abandoned hbcu football and the hbcu celebration bowl to lock arms with a bunch of pwc's. how is a&t gonna welcome a coach to hbcu football when a&t doesn't support hbcu football itself? very "hypocritical" in my opinion... Sent from my SM-G950U using proboards oleschool - We'll be supporting HBCU football with our Hampton, NCCU and games HBCU games we play.
more like supporting "ourselves" rather than supporting hbcu football in general. we'll play nccu to pad our pockets and we'll play hampton because we have to as members of a pwc conference... |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 22, 2020 12:24:45 GMT -5
A&T is an HBCU.
A&T plays football.
A&T is the best HBCU that plays football.
Thus, whenever or wherever A&T plays you will see the best representation of HBCU football.
We dont have to support any other school or conference for that to remain true. We could be an independent and that would still be true. The MEAC was one of the worst run conferences in America and A&T was still the best representation of HBCU football.
I honestly dont understand why that is hard to understand.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Sept 22, 2020 15:00:36 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to disagree......
If we play a Big South-laden schedule (because we're in the Big South) and play a few HBCU schools, that doesn't equate to being the best representation of HBCU football.
I'm sorry, but with FAMU and Bethune moving to the SWAC, if we win vs. the Big South teams, NCCU, Howard and SCSU.....I can't automatically say we're the best HBCU football team.
The Celebration Bowl - whether you liked it or you didn't - pretty much answered that question for the past half decade.
Listen guys, we're trying to have our cake and eat it too. If we do something extraordinary, such as go undefeated in the Big South, beat an FBS team, and beat our future OOC MEAC brethren.....then yes, the argument for being the best HBCU in the land is very strong.
However, I'm not going to let any "Aggie arrogance" discredit the rest of the MEAC and SWAC, particularly if they have a handful of teams that begin to step up their level of play.
Last time I checked, we've lost to FAMU twice in a row, so let's not act as if we're on some stratosphere by ourselves as of September 22, 2020.
We've moved to a non-HBCU conference; we'll play less HBCU teams ----- THOSE ARE FACTS! To automatically pencil us as the HBCU's finest when we're likely not going to be playing some of the top HBCU programs to prove it is arrogant and faulty.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 16:14:50 GMT -5
I believe the Celebration Bowl game has kicked the bucket.
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Post by aggie2039 on Sept 22, 2020 20:29:30 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to disagree...... If we play a Big South-laden schedule (because we're in the Big South) and play a few HBCU schools, that doesn't equate to being the best representation of HBCU football. I'm sorry, but with FAMU and Bethune moving to the SWAC, if we win vs. the Big South teams, NCCU, Howard and SCSU.....I can't automatically say we're the best HBCU football team. The Celebration Bowl - whether you liked it or you didn't - pretty much answered that question for the past half decade. Listen guys, we're trying to have our cake and eat it too. If we do something extraordinary, such as go undefeated in the Big South, beat an FBS team, and beat our future OOC MEAC brethren.....then yes, the argument for being the best HBCU in the land is very strong. However, I'm not going to let any "Aggie arrogance" discredit the rest of the MEAC and SWAC, particularly if they have a handful of teams that begin to step up their level of play. Last time I checked, we've lost to FAMU twice in a row, so let's not act as if we're on some stratosphere by ourselves as of September 22, 2020. We've moved to a non-HBCU conference; we'll play less HBCU teams ----- THOSE ARE FACTS! To automatically pencil us as the HBCU's finest when we're likely not going to be playing some of the top HBCU programs to prove it is arrogant and faulty. So TSU HBCU national championships dont count? They play in a PWI conf. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 23, 2020 11:06:56 GMT -5
A&T is an HBCU. A&T plays football. A&T is the best HBCU that plays football. Thus, whenever or wherever A&T plays you will see the best representation of HBCU football. We dont have to support any other school or conference for that to remain true. We could be an independent and that would still be true. The MEAC was one of the worst run conferences in America and A&T was still the best representation of HBCU football. I honestly dont understand why that is hard to understand. i think you've been drinking too much of the "cool-aid". a&t chose to lock arms with a bunch of pwc's and will "predominantly" compete against pwc's in the bsc. that is not representative of hbcu football. traditional hbcu football entails competition "predominantly" between hbcu's, not "predominantly" against pwc's, and definitely not an hbcu representing and fully supporting a pwc conference. and to get back to that "cool-aid", let's not forget that a&t has loss to "lowly" morgan state 2 years in a row and also loss to famu 2 years in a row. we also "backed into" the meac championship 2 years in a row. so its all well and good to "self proclaim" ourselves the best representation of HBCU football. but i think folk in baltimore and tallahassee may have a bit to say about that... |
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Sept 23, 2020 11:12:27 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to disagree...... If we play a Big South-laden schedule (because we're in the Big South) and play a few HBCU schools, that doesn't equate to being the best representation of HBCU football. I'm sorry, but with FAMU and Bethune moving to the SWAC, if we win vs. the Big South teams, NCCU, Howard and SCSU.....I can't automatically say we're the best HBCU football team. The Celebration Bowl - whether you liked it or you didn't - pretty much answered that question for the past half decade. Listen guys, we're trying to have our cake and eat it too. If we do something extraordinary, such as go undefeated in the Big South, beat an FBS team, and beat our future OOC MEAC brethren.....then yes, the argument for being the best HBCU in the land is very strong. However, I'm not going to let any "Aggie arrogance" discredit the rest of the MEAC and SWAC, particularly if they have a handful of teams that begin to step up their level of play. Last time I checked, we've lost to FAMU twice in a row, so let's not act as if we're on some stratosphere by ourselves as of September 22, 2020. We've moved to a non-HBCU conference; we'll play less HBCU teams ----- THOSE ARE FACTS! To automatically pencil us as the HBCU's finest when we're likely not going to be playing some of the top HBCU programs to prove it is arrogant and faulty. So TSU HBCU national championships dont count? They play in a PWI conf. Unless TSU plays a decent number of quality HBCUs to get a good idea of how good of a HBCU program they are - NO. There always can be exceptions. If TSU or A&T wins their respective conference and goes deep into the playoffs, then each school needs to be in consideration. However, if a team in the MEAC or SWAC rolls through the regular season undefeated or with 1 loss and ends up winning the Celebration Bowl, it's gonna have to take a helluva lot for A&T or TSU to do to usurp that team in being considered the HBCU's best. |
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Post by aggie2039 on Sept 23, 2020 11:19:11 GMT -5
So TSU HBCU national championships dont count? They play in a PWI conf. Unless TSU plays a decent number of quality HBCUs to get a good idea of how good of a HBCU program they are - NO. There always can be exceptions. If TSU or A&T wins their respective conference and goes deep into the playoffs, then each school needs to be in consideration. However, if a team in the MEAC or SWAC rolls through the regular season undefeated or with 1 loss and ends up winning the Celebration Bowl, it's gonna have to take a helluva lot for A&T or TSU to do to usurp that team in being considered the HBCU's best. Copy |
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Post by Maxell on Sept 23, 2020 11:24:45 GMT -5
So TSU HBCU national championships dont count? They play in a PWI conf. Unless TSU plays a decent number of quality HBCUs to get a good idea of how good of a HBCU program they are - NO. There always can be exceptions. If TSU or A&T wins their respective conference and goes deep into the playoffs, then each school needs to be in consideration. However, if a team in the MEAC or SWAC rolls through the regular season undefeated or with 1 loss and ends up winning the Celebration Bowl, it's gonna have to take a helluva lot for A&T or TSU to do to usurp that team in being considered the HBCU's best. If the Celebration Bowl continues, its winner should be HBCU National Champions, period. None of that stuff FAMU pulled last year. As for A&T, Hampton, and Tennessee St the powers that be at the CB have to decide if and how those three schools are eligible or not. If you are not eligible to play in the CB then you should not be able to claim an HBCU National Championship except right now I think Box-To-Row is the official poll. If we give viability to mythical models of the past where several different polls determine their own champion which may include Div II, then all bets are off. |
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